** The HBO Series "The Wire" Question & Answer Thread **
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Didn't say D'Angelo was doing life. He had to be down for life just like he told Wallace.
Of course his mother and uncle were prepared to believe that. That's why Stringer did it because he knew they were too emotional to do it.
We're not talking about Avon.
Avon didn't set him up to get killed, Stringer forced that issue.
String would have gotten it from NY regardless. They came to Avon to give Avon a chance to get back in good graces, but bet and believe if Avon said no, String would have gotten killed and Avon would be shut out the connect.
Stringer wasn't handling too much shit above the corner. he got fucked by Clay Davis and the properties were stagnant. He flipped a little of the money, yeah, but he didn't take off the way he thought he could.
Avon would have had the blocks hot for a minute with his war against Marlo, which if he didn't engage Marlo he wouldn't have had any leverage after that.
But everything that happened to Stringer happened at his own hands.
They were too emotional? They were his family! lol man you guys are a trip.
stringer bell gave up avon barksdale to bunny colvin in a self-serving power play.
no comparison with avon giving up stringer bell to brother mouzone to settle accounts.
no comparison.
everything stringer built?
seriously?
watch the show again. it's worth it.
You picked the only two peeps on the show who were clean. All though Sydnor got involved in McNulty's illegal shyt.
d was a liability to the organization.
remember when he wrote an apology letter to the family of that victim
remember when he caught that body in the lobby
has a soft spot in his heart for wallace
nigga started snortin that shit in jail
man that dude had a good heart but he was weak as shit.
Stringer isn't shit without Avon.
Period.
Because he wasn't in the street to get the work done himself. Avon put his work in.
Avon could've made it without String, from the ground up. Shit wouldn't work the other way around.
If you guys REALLY want to take it there.
Period.
Because he wasn't in the street to get the work done himself. Avon put his work in.
Avon could've made it without String, from the ground up. Shit wouldn't work the other way around.
If you guys REALLY want to take it there.
But in the end, the kid wasn't going to rat on the organization.d was a liability to the organization.
remember when he wrote an apology letter to the family of that victim
remember when he caught that body in the lobby
has a soft spot in his heart for wallace
nigga started snortin that shit in jail
man that dude had a good heart but he was weak as shit.
He was at one point. But decided to stand on his own two - as a man.
Stringer couldn't have done it.
Going by his character if String got caught red handed he would have sung like a canary.
stringer bell gave up avon barksdale to bunny colvin in a self-serving power play.
no comparison with avon giving up stringer bell to brother mouzone to settle accounts.
no comparison.
everything stringer built?
seriously?
watch the show again. it's worth it.
Nigga you watch it again! Stringer Bell: "We making so much legit money now that we can carry this type of shy tout in the open." With the dope they were getting from the co-op they didn't need the corners. The co-op voted them out and if Avon stayed on the street he wouldn't have had shyt. No dope and no corners.
let's get 2 things straight.
beyond the familiar relationship, brianna and avon were better suited and more capable of running the FAMILY business. stringer bell was nothing more than an overblown day player with delusions of grandeur.
if stringer bell really had the credentials (knowledge and experience), why did he have to consult a community college lecturer teaching night school for answers about his own endeavors?
stringer's "too emotional" speech sounds real nice, but when it comes down to it, it has no legs because he has nothing concrete to back it up.
where in the show did avon slip due to emotions?
where in the show did brianna slip due to emotions?
on the other hand, you'd need both hands to count how many times stringer bell's emotions got the better of him. ask slim charles to assassinate clay davis.
i didn't pick shit.
your "scumbag" claim was leveled evenly at ALL the characters.
let's get 2 things straight.
beyond the familiar relationship, brianna and avon were better suited and more capable of running the FAMILY business. stringer bell was nothing more than an overblown day player with delusions of grandeur.
if stringer bell really had the credentials (knowledge and experience), why did he have to consult a community college lecturer teaching night school for answers about his own endeavors?
stringer's "too emotional" speech sounds real nice, but when it comes down to it, it has no legs because he has nothing concrete to back it up.
where in the show did avon slip due to emotions?
where in the show did brianna slip due to emotions?
on the other hand, you'd need both hands to count how many times stringer bell's emotions got the better of him. ask slim charles to assassinate clay davis.
Stringer was completely unhinged.
Stringer tried to play the game, and got lost in it.
Hell, even in this video Avon tried to clean up Stringer's mess, but the only thing they wanted was Stringer. He was backed into the corner, and considering that Stringer had Avon's only family killed, who's Stringer to Avon really "in the game"?
let's get 2 things straight.
beyond the familiar relationship, brianna and avon were better suited and more capable of running the FAMILY business. stringer bell was nothing more than an overblown day player with delusions of grandeur.
if stringer bell really had the credentials (knowledge and experience), why did he have to consult a community college lecturer teaching night school for answers about his own endeavors?
stringer's "too emotional" speech sounds real nice, but when it comes down to it, it has no legs because he has nothing concrete to back it up.
where in the show did avon slip due to emotions?
Are you serious? He went to war with Marlo because of his fukking ego and got his ass beat. Marlo and Chris out thought him every step of the way because he was to emotional about those fukking corners. Don't forget that the co-op kicked his ass out because of the war so he would have had the corners and no dope to put on them so he would have lost them anyway.
where in the show did brianna slip due to emotions?
on the other hand, you'd need both hands to count how many times stringer bell's emotions got the better of him. ask slim charles to assassinate clay davis.
What the fukk did Brianna run? When Avon was in the joint Stringer ran the show period! All Brianna did was hand out money to wee bay's girl and probably other folks that were locked up.
you really need to watch it again. REALLY.
it was WEAK stringer bell that unilaterally decided to go against avon's wishes by SURRENDERING the corners without so much as a peep.
dumb ass thought if the competition came to them for the re-up, it would be all good.
i don't know what type of business you are involved in (if any), but that means shutting down distribution channels and reducing margins. 2 HUGE mistakes for any business.
do you see 7-11 giving the mom and pop liquor store wholesale deals on soft drinks? do you see 7-11 telling mom and pop liquor stores to go ahead and sell their slurpee product for them? or does 7-11 sell their own product and keep all the margin for themselves?
insert clay davis quote here.
All of the criminals fool. come on with this bullshyt.
now i know you didn't really watch the show.
go watch the FIRST meeting between brianna, stringer and avon at the funeral home.
Shit, since no one believes in Omerta anymore I probably would have done the same thing. D was about to flip before his mother got to him. D wasn't built for the game. Flat out. The only reason he has any part to do with what he had is because he was related to the folks in charge. He wasn't a gamer.
First clue is when he shot the dude in the towers instead of fighting. He didn't think and did as many dudes without a shred of toughness do when challenged and they have a gun and the other doesn't.
Second clue is when he wrote the letter. What kind of stupid dude does that? For someone whose family was in the game tight he was pretty damned clueless.
Third is when he was about to flip and his mother talked him out of it. If Avon knew how close he was to flipping he might have pulled his card himself.
With that said they made more money! Stringer said that they were up by 9% because people were getting their reups from him. It wasn't about the day to day street shyt. Just like Lester feared that Stringer was gonna be the bank and just financed packages and never get his hands dirty and just collect cash. That's what Stringer was trying to do until Avon got out and couldn't see pass that corner thug shyt.
now i know you didn't really watch the show.
go watch the FIRST meeting between brianna, stringer and avon at the funeral home.
STFU! All she did was help Stringer run shyt. String handled the product and she handled the money. In the grand scheme of things Brianna was a minor part of the team. That's why she didn't really let wee bay's old lady get to her when she started talking shyt.
right.
because avon barksdale didn't put together shit while he was running things.
notice how EVERYthing, went to SHIT under stringer bell's watch?
just a coincidence?
nah.
day-to-day street shit?
that's where the margin (and the profit) is at.
example from the show: when cutty got out, avon gave him a g-pack to get himself on his feet. why didn't cutty just wholesale it? because putting it in a retail distribution channel (with marlo's boy) is where the money is at.
a wholesaler isn't making good money unless he moves weight like the greek "buy for a nickel, sell for a dime"
mid-level players like proposition joe get in lower down the food chain "buy for a dollar, sell for two"
example from real life: you can wholesale mdma for 25 cents each, but at street level you can sell for $5 each. where is the profit at?
So why were their profits up 9% after the towers fell?
Let me ask you something.
Do you think that would have held?
If they kept making profits and had better dope, how long do you think it would have been before Marlo muscled his way in?
No matter what Marlo did he wouldn't have had that good dope unless he joined the co-op. Are you saying he would have gone to was with the entire co-op?
He would have just eliminated Stringer and his crew.
The entire co-op was scared of Marlo and his crew, so what would they have done?
They were all playing pretend businessmen, and really they were doing it the way it should be done, but when you got a guy like Marlo playing by the old rules what do you think would happen?
The dope wouldn't matter if you didn't have a market.
I can't speculate on something that was not in the show. We both could come up with 100 different things they woulda coulda done and we both would be right and wrong because who the hell knows? The show creators, that's about it. And they might not even know until they started writing the scripts.
We can take what we know about the characters and their motivations and hypothesize what they may do.
We do know what Marlo's intentions were, they played out the fourth and fifth seasons.
Season 3, Episode 12
Avon Barksdale, and I quote
"Man, String was right about this sht man, that ngga was right....FCK Marlo..........Fck this fcking war............all this beef, over a couple of fcking corners.........
be clear. was it 9% more product being moved? or 9% in dollar revenue?
i don't need to talk hypotheticals or anything else.
from the real life we know this:
(a) episodic 9% increases in SALES are nothing to do cartwheels about. if stringer had been talking 9% increase in market share, then we'd have something significant to discuss.
from the show we know this:
(b) by EVERYone's admission, the westside product prior to the deal with proposition joe was garbage. supplied with a new product "that could be stepped on 7 or 8 times", a 9% increase over selling garbage is not only astonishingly low, it's downright embarassing.
(c) how does stringer know that the market conditions (towers falling, decentralized distribution) alone do not account for the 9% increase? as opposed to say, the supposition that it was due to selling re-ups to the competition?
