The official ** KEVIN SAMUELS ** discussion thread

[BrownTurd]

But it's fast becoming merely a catchphrase, coming from him. He tosses it around before anyone can finish what they're saying. He uses it as a doorstop.

You can tell he has a professional sales background. All he is doing is controlling the conversation and the direction it is going.

when you are the one asking questions you are controlling the conversation. The reason for this is the person who is answering the questions is always on the defense

 

[Heavenlywings77]

Some of his numbers are absurd.He told a young girl this week calling from LA that a man needs to be making 6-700k to take care of a family there and that is simply not true. He seems to greatly inflate the numbers to create a sense of urgency in women.

I understand trying to scare some women straight, but doing so with such inflated numbers is just enough to make someone roll their eyes.

See!!! This is a valid criticism!!! This!!! Not the made up monkey shit some of yall be coming up with

 

[Heavenlywings77]

You can tell he has a professional sales background. All he is doing is controlling the conversation and the direction it is going.

when you are the one asking questions you are controlling the conversation. The reason for this is the person who is answering the questions is always on the defense

Again valid criticism

 

[Heavenlywings77]

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[YoungSinister]

Some of his numbers are absurd.He told a young girl this week calling from LA that a man needs to be making 6-700k to take care of a family there and that is simply not true. He seems to greatly inflate the numbers to create a sense of urgency in women.

I understand trying to scare some women straight, but doing so with such inflated numbers is just enough to make someone roll their eyes.

See!!! This is a valid criticism!!! This!!! Not the made up monkey shit some of yall be coming up with

He’s not talking about the lifestyle of the average Joe tho
Most of these chicks call him thinking that they can get with a man that will go s them a luxury lifestyle. So he’s showing them the realistic numbers of that particular life

cats are losing sight of the fact that he speaks about men who operate on a certain level. Not general dating advice

 

[Quek9]

He’s not talking about the lifestyle of the average Joe tho
Most of these chicks call talking about looking luxury lifestyle. So he’s showing them the realistic numbers of that particular life

This, Both of my sisters make well over 6 figures and married dudes that are over 6 too. Cali ain't no joke to live. They had me convinced on a move until we went house hunting. I was like fuck that...

 

[Heavenlywings77]

He’s not talking about the lifestyle of the average Joe tho
Most of these chicks call him thinking that they can get with a man that will go s them a luxury lifestyle. So he’s showing them the realistic numbers of that particular life

cats are losing sight of the fact that he speaks about men who operate on a certain level. Not general dating advice

I know, I'm a fan. I watch his podcast whenever I have time.

 

[Chiyo]

He’s not talking about the lifestyle of the average Joe tho
Most of these chicks call him thinking that they can get with a man that will go s them a luxury lifestyle. So he’s showing them the realistic numbers of that particular life

cats are losing sight of the fact that he speaks about men who operate on a certain level. Not general dating advice

He calls it the average middle class life, and its absurd the things he says. Talking about private school, and having college paid for and its not realistic. The middle class sends their kids to College on student loans, and their kids are not getting cars at 16. You dont need 600k for a middle class life and a wife at home with kids in Los Angeles. Its a silly talking point made by a guy talking to women who have no clue what things cost made to scare them into seeing his viewpoint.

 

[respiration]

He’s not talking about the lifestyle of the average Joe tho
Most of these chicks call him thinking that they can get with a man that will go s them a luxury lifestyle. So he’s showing them the realistic numbers of that particular life

cats are losing sight of the fact that he speaks about men who operate on a certain level. Not general dating advice

The last thing you said is a good point.

But a lot of the ones losing sight of that are his core audience, average everyday Black men who by and large aren't in that deep six-figure earning category. Judging by the comments on his videos and social media, they often miss the nuance and just treat his platform and message as a chance to bash Sistas as a whole. Absolutely true, he doesn't give general dating advice. He used to do things like that on YouTube but that's far in the past.

 

[Chiyo]

This, Both of my sisters make well over 6 figures and married dudes that are over 6 too. Cali ain't no joke to live. They had me convinced on a move until we went house hunting. I was like fuck that...

Two people making 6 figures in Cali can live a very good life. House hunting isnt even practical because the average upwardly mobile person has no need to be tied down to a housing unit when opportunity can literally have you hopping across the country at any given point in time.

2.5-3k gets you a nice apartment in an area that bleeds to a good school district in all of Cali outside of the Bay/San Jose area, and thats easily attainable for two people making six figures. Hell a single guy pulling that can have a stay at home wife and a kid and maintain that with budgeting. People do that with much less all the time.

 

[doe moe]

Black Mind

 

[Chiyo]

And I think Kevin Samuels is right most of the time, but when more light is shined on him the numbers thing could potentially become a thing to sink him.

Saying someone needs 600k to have a middle class family life in Los Angeles County is laughable, and will get him laughed out of every room not filled with low self esteem overweight black women out here since he mentioned hes thinking about moving there. 1.6 million to 2.5 million needed to survive from 65 to 85 is laughable too. How many peoples grandmothers had 1.6 million socked away? How many lived to 85 even being more fit than the wildebeests that call into show? What is he even talking about? These women have no clue about anything so they just accept what he says as true because hes the only man who has ever told them anything while not trying to get in their pants.

 

[jack walsh13]

Now this chick is sexy af

 

[Quek9]

Two people making 6 figures in Cali can live a very good life. House hunting isnt even practical because the average upwardly mobile person has no need to be tied down to a housing unit when opportunity can literally have you hopping across the country at any given point in time.

2.5-3k gets you a nice apartment in an area that bleeds to a good school district in all of Cali outside of the Bay/San Jose area, and thats easily attainable for two people making six figures. Hell a single guy pulling that can have a stay at home wife and a kid and maintain that with budgeting. People do that with much less all the time.

Bullshit. I am not living in an apartment. Kids raised in homes do better than apartment kids. I have a 3700 sqft crib sitting on a half-acre in Houston. A family of 4 requires resources. Then average 2700 sqft crib sitting on a lot with a 10ft by 10ft yard was 650k in the LA area.

 

[Chiyo]

Bullshit. I am not living in an apartment. Kids raised in homes do better than apartment kids. I have a 3700 sqft crib sitting on a half-acre in Houston. A family of 4 requires resources. Then average 2700 sqft crib sitting on a lot with a 10ft by 10ft yard was 650k in the LA area.

You call bullshit but if I got on zillow or apartments.com right now and put in Los Angeles County, San Diego, OC, San Bernandino,,ect that I could not find apartments in districts that feed off into schools that are ranked >7/10 on greatschools?


A family of 4 requires resources that can be, for most, sufficiently satisfied with a two bedroom apartment in a decent area. 2 kids dont need 3700 sqft. People are trying to live a mythical version of the american dream(which didnt exist for most) in places they were not intended for. The vast majority of california where industry is will be a place where you get a nice apartment or townhouse, where your kids can go walk to the park, and live a decent life. You dont need the 2 car garage and white picket fence in Los Angeles the same way you dont need an SUV in NYC.

 

[Lower9Nupe]

He calls it the average middle class life, and its absurd the things he says. Talking about private school, and having college paid for and its not realistic. The middle class sends their kids to College on student loans, and their kids are not getting cars at 16. You dont need 600k for a middle class life and a wife at home with kids in Los Angeles. Its a silly talking point made by a guy talking to women who have no clue what things cost made to scare them into seeing his viewpoint.

You realize THEY ALL see his viewpoint. Even the ones who walk away mad.

 

[Chiyo]

You realize THEY ALL see his viewpoint. Even the ones who walk away mad.

They see it because they walk into the situation already buying into what hes selling. Its like saying why do people who come to a revival get saved. You have to be partial to even participate.

Look at the type of women who call in. In fact, play his shit to a woman in shape and in a healthy relationship. They'll zone out quick because women with men about anything in their lives dont want to listen to a guy tell them things. They already have that.

 

[lazarus]

He calls it the average middle class life, and its absurd the things he says. Talking about private school, and having college paid for and its not realistic. The middle class sends their kids to College on student loans, and their kids are not getting cars at 16. You dont need 600k for a middle class life and a wife at home with kids in Los Angeles. Its a silly talking point made by a guy talking to women who have no clue what things cost made to scare them into seeing his viewpoint.

if you took the average wealth in america and the perks that come along with it, the ultra rich will will curb the numbers upward. it is the halfway point between the poor here and the ultra rich. the median wealth in america is the middle class we all agree on, 3 bedroom suburb home, necessities with a little fun, credit card, working a 9-5 where you take the boss's shit daily, and student loan debt, public school.

In LA with 2 kids, sitting in traffic 2 hours a day, you can do that with an apartment or condo in the valley for a combined income of 150,000. This is if you're self-made and didn't get an inheritance or a house given to you. If you want a house and the picket fence and you can't exceed your salary, you have to move to a remote city in the I.E., the mountains, or move out of state. The same income will give you a big house in Houston.

 

[Lower9Nupe]

if you took the average wealth in america and the perks that come along with it, the ultra rich will will curb the numbers upward. it is the halfway point between the poor here and the ultra rich. the median wealth in america is the middle class we all agree on, 3 bedroom suburb home, necessities with a little fun, credit card, working a 9-5 where you take the boss's shit daily, and student loan debt, public school.

In LA with 2 kids, sitting in traffic 2 hours a day, you can do that with an apartment or condo in the valley for a combined income of 150,000. This is if you're self-made and didn't get an inheritance or a house given to you. If you want a house and the picket fence and you can't exceed your salary, you have to move to a remote city in the I.E., the mountains, or move out of state. The same income will give you a big house in Houston.

Are the women calling in to his show aspiring for THAT existence? That's the key. I'm going to say they are not. One of the key questions he asks is them is HOW MUCH they want their men to make and it all goes from there......................

 

[Quek9]

You call bullshit but if I got on zillow or apartments.com right now and put in Los Angeles County, San Diego, OC, San Bernandino,,ect that I could not find apartments in districts that feed off into schools that are ranked >7/10 on greatschools?


A family of 4 requires resources that can be, for most, sufficiently satisfied with a two bedroom apartment in a decent area. 2 kids dont need 3700 sqft. People are trying to live a mythical version of the american dream(which didnt exist for most) in places they were not intended for. The vast majority of california where industry is will be a place where you get a nice apartment or townhouse, where your kids can go walk to the park, and live a decent life. You dont need the 2 car garage and white picket fence in Los Angeles the same way you dont need an SUV in NYC.

What part of not living in an apartment you don't understand?

 

[Backshot Bully]

What part of not living in an apartment you don't understand?

Who the fuck wants to live in a apartment with a wife and kids

 

[totto]

He calls it the average middle class life, and its absurd the things he says. Talking about private school, and having college paid for and its not realistic. The middle class sends their kids to College on student loans, and their kids are not getting cars at 16. You dont need 600k for a middle class life and a wife at home with kids in Los Angeles. Its a silly talking point made by a guy talking to women who have no clue what things cost made to scare them into seeing his viewpoint.

Yeah that's really how he gets people, he seels this inflated life that most Americans don't live and when they call in he drops back down to reality.

So the girls who call in you can see when they can't get the point across too well since he's basically switching the script on them and they don't see that. They'll say they have a PHD or whatever and live in Atlanta but even a sister making 80k which is pretty good is still a far way off from what Kevin talks about.

Kevin really got that hustle down packed, basically he's taking Victoria Secret ads and when they open the cover it's Marshall bra and panties.

 

[Quek9]

Who the fuck wants to live in a apartment with a wife and kids

Especially going from 5 br, 3.5 baths, theater room, game room, weight room, covered patio, 2 car garage. No fucking way...

 

[moblack]

Yeah I get what he's trying to do but I don't like the tone nor the bitchassness and he's has issues with both.

He wants women to be real and shoot for a shot they dan get realistically but he doesn't have to disrespect females like that.

That's where the incel, angry dudes come and like him for that and he needs to stay off that.

Giving women respect when they are not in reality is what has created today's dating standards. Anytime you play a fools game you become a fool.

 

[moblack]

The worst is women calling in with shit to their name and want the fucking world smh. Its weird how women want some man to save them and he has to have everything in order. Meanwhile she has 2 kids, never been married, no education, and living with her moma. Yet somehow she the prize. I rather stay single in my house.

 

[Quek9]

The worst is women calling in with shit to their name and want the fucking world smh. Its weird how women want some man to save them and he has to have everything in order. Meanwhile she has 2 kids, never been married, no education, and living with her moma. Yet somehow she the prize. I rather stay single in my house.

or give up half when shit goes south...listening to KS makes me feel lucky af. I picked a winner, it will 23 years this year. if I had to pick now I don't know what the fuck I would do.

 

[shonuff]

You call bullshit but if I got on zillow or apartments.com right now and put in Los Angeles County, San Diego, OC, San Bernandino,,ect that I could not find apartments in districts that feed off into schools that are ranked >7/10 on greatschools?


A family of 4 requires resources that can be, for most, sufficiently satisfied with a two bedroom apartment in a decent area. 2 kids dont need 3700 sqft. People are trying to live a mythical version of the american dream(which didnt exist for most) in places they were not intended for. The vast majority of california where industry is will be a place where you get a nice apartment or townhouse, where your kids can go walk to the park, and live a decent life. You dont need the 2 car garage and white picket fence in Los Angeles the same way you dont need an SUV in NYC.

uhhh no not true

if you liv ein nYC you DO need a SUV

why?

because a LOT of people who own homes in NY live in the burbs and as a result to get INTO the city during shitty weather ie Fall/ Winter ( especially from up state ) you need a SUV

aint no prius taking you up and down the local roads in Warwick NY ; and youd best have one is you live out east past Douglaston

the numbers he is talking about are probably for UPPER middle class people who can afford to drop 1.5M on a brownstone in Brooklyn or Condo in SF/LA

....but lets face it - a LOT of people think they can live that kind of life where they think they can live like they earn 300K but really they barely make 50K - thats whats sold to them on TV and Movies and in commercials .....

 

[4 Dimensional]

Especially going from 5 br, 3.5 baths, theater room, game room, weight room, covered patio, 2 car garage. No fucking way...

For real. A recruiter from Amazon hit me up early last year. It was a good job and one that I wanted. All was good until we started talking about pay.

I told him Seattle was 3 times the cost of living than Greensboro. So they would have to be willing to pay that or it doesn’t make since for me to move.

More money doesn’t necessarily equate better living.

 

[darth frosty]

or give up half when shit goes south...listening to KS makes me feel lucky af. I picked a winner, it will 23 years this year. if I had to pick now I don't know what the fuck I would do.

Wife and I celebrated 23 yrs last sun


CANNOT imagine have to wade thru whats out there now

 

[4 Dimensional]

or give up half when shit goes south...listening to KS makes me feel lucky af. I picked a winner, it will 23 years this year. if I had to pick now I don't know what the fuck I would do.

Wife and I celebrated 23 yrs last sun


CANNOT imagine have to wade thru whats out there now

Salute brothers. It will be 16 for me this August.

lol, I remember one time I was having a discussion to my class that was all women. I was telling them some shit I done for my wife, and they said “I want a man like you.” I told them “I was the nice guy y’all turned down because you wanted the knucklehead when you was younger. Now look at you. I bet you all got a real nice brother that will do anything for you, but you done friend zoned him.”

Man, them chicks was SILENT. Lmaoo

They be doing backwards shit at times.

 

[totto]

Giving women respect when they are not in reality is what has created today's dating standards. Anytime you play a fools game you become a fool.

Seeing BS and switching up to fight it compared to cursing and publicly talking about it is another, plenty of women are outta pocket and dudes who know them fuck and leave without investing in them, you don't need to publicly insult people to get your point across though.

 

[cocodc]

Had stayed away from his videos as much as possible.. but i caught one of IG Live about a week or so ago. and honestly.. i agree with a lot of what he says.... but with that said... f him and all that shit...

 

[Quek9]

Salute brothers. It will be 16 for me this August.

lol, I remember one time I was having a discussion to my class that was all women. I was telling them some shit I done for my wife, and they said “I want a man like you.” I told them “I was the nice guy y’all turned down because you wanted the knucklehead when you was younger. Now look at you. I bet you all got a real nice brother that will do anything for you, but you done friend zoned him.”

Man, them chicks was SILENT. Lmaoo

They be doing backwards shit at times.

Good shit fam. Do it big when y'all hit 20!

 

[Quek9]

For real. A recruiter from Amazon hit me up early last year. It was a good job and one that I wanted. All was good until we started talking about pay.

I told him Seattle was 3 times the cost of living than Greensboro. So they would have to be willing to pay that or it doesn’t make since for me to move.

More money doesn’t necessarily equate better living.

Bruh I started in Everett when I was making less than 40k. That shit was a struggle. You are basically working to pay rent and to eat out occasionally. No way on having kids, travel, or any extravagance. The best thing happened when they moved my entire program to Kansas. It allowed me to thrive until my promotions and raises started coming through.

 

[ANGRY MAN]

The worst is women calling in with shit to their name and want the fucking world smh. Its weird how women want some man to save them and he has to have everything in order. Meanwhile she has 2 kids, never been married, no education, and living with her moma. Yet somehow she the prize. I rather stay single in my house.

That’s why he on the women’s ass. Men are coming to the realization that..if I got to do all this by myself, why do I need a no good woman! I can live like a bachelor till I die, and living like a bachelor doesn’t indicate your lonely. Me personally this chick I talk to has a 15yr old and a 11yr old. Cool ass woman she wants things to go further.

In my head I have a two seater car a motorcycle which only has one extra seat now I do have a truck but it’s strictly for bad weather! I’m not about to change up my lifestyle for her two kids that she choose to have!