True...look what happened to Kofi Kingston when he messed up with Orton.......straight to Smackdown
That might be the best thing to ever happen to Kofi. Smackdown is for the wrestlers, Raw for the politicians and suck ups.
THE WRESTLING THREAD: HELL HAS FROZE OVER JOHN CENA HAS GONE FULL HEEL
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That might be the best thing to ever happen to Kofi. Smackdown is for the wrestlers, Raw for the politicians and suck ups.
WWE were dicks for what they did to Kofi. He was just getting over to main event status. And props to Orton because he helped get him there. But fuck Orton and WWE for holding him back. That dude went from beating Orton and Legacy's ass to jobbing the next week after that shit with Orton.
And now he's king on smackdown while orton is in a very boring feud with edge
. What's real shady is kofi will eventually get put with taker (who every person has to go through) and when taker makes him look good orton will then deem him worthy enough to feud withquickie results from Slammiversary
Angle over Kazarian
Neal over Bubba Ray with appearance by Tommy Dreamer
Morgan over Hernandez by DQ
Williams over Kendrick; retains X Division title
Anderson/Hardy over Beer Money; they should stop jobbing out BM
Abyss over Wolfe in Monster's Ball match; they should stop jobbing out Wolfe
Rayne over Roxxi; retains Knockout title, Roxxi "retires" (?)
Lethal over Styles
RVD over Sting
Angle over Kazarian
Neal over Bubba Ray with appearance by Tommy Dreamer
Morgan over Hernandez by DQ
Williams over Kendrick; retains X Division title
Anderson/Hardy over Beer Money; they should stop jobbing out BM
Abyss over Wolfe in Monster's Ball match; they should stop jobbing out Wolfe
Rayne over Roxxi; retains Knockout title, Roxxi "retires" (?)
Lethal over Styles
RVD over Sting
quickie results from Slammiversary
Angle over Kazarian
Neal over Bubba Ray with appearance by Tommy Dreamer
Morgan over Hernandez by DQ
Williams over Kendrick; retains X Division title
Anderson/Hardy over Beer Money; they should stop jobbing out BM
Abyss over Wolfe in Monster's Ball match; they should stop jobbing out Wolfe
Rayne over Roxxi; retains Knockout title, Roxxi "retires" (?)
Lethal over Styles
RVD over Sting
WTF is wrong with TNA?!?!?
Why are they burying the originals aka. the new Four (1/2) Horsemen
Plus WTF is going on with the Roxxi storyline?!?!?!
and Sting lost?!?!?!
Dixie Carter Tweeted that there should be suprises to come in the next few days....hope it's Heyman to fix the storylines and booking.
Well, lets hope they don't rehash old ECW superstars. I seen Tommy Dreamer tonight and I was like "YEAH!" but then i said "OH NO!, MORE OLD DUDES TO BURY YOUNG TALENT"
Wait - Sting lost to RVD?!?! RVD is my boy but c'mon now..
RVD has the belt. wouldn't make sense for him to drop it to Sting after only one successful PPV defense.
i think she retired once and for all yet again
said so on her official site
And now he's king on smackdown while orton is in a very boring feud with edge
This is true. But to me Smackdown is second rate shit. Kofi was gonna take over Raw main events. Now we get to sit through Cena and that Irish muthafucka who I still don't understand why he got a push to begin with.
Wait - Sting lost to RVD?!?! RVD is my boy but c'mon now..
Old ass Sting should never beat RVD. Rob's younger and is far better in the ring right now. RVD's got a ton of great challengers in TNA who he can have great World title matches with (Angle, Joe, Wolfe, Abyss if/when they turn him). Sting's out of gas and needs to work with a certain type of wrestler to have a good match (Jarrett).
This should be Sting's last year in the ring, especially for TNA. Let him retire and get some of Vince's money. Vince has been wanting to drop a Sting dvd for years but he won't do one while Sting wrestles for TNA.
Not a problem. Tommy may come in and get a couple pinfall but this is the same guy who wouldn't go over when he was in the most politically powerful position in ECW. That guy is also someone they can ease into the creative team.
No he wasn't. They could have made him a main event guy on Raw but they clearly chose not to by having him get beat by Orton and then Sheamus clean almost every time out. On Smackdown, there's a chance he'll at least get a run at Swagger and the World title.
Sheamus, who I think is actually pretty good, is friends with HHH.
Storyline wise yes but wrestling wise it's way better than raw. It's well known that young wrestlers hate being drafted to raw because it's considered a death sentence for them. If i'm kofi i thank god i'm on SD and keep making my 5 to 6 figures, because on raw you have to deal with orton and cena who both have huge problems putting people over.
I keenly remember Booker T not wanting to go to Raw when he was drafted several years ago. Just as he predicted, when he and Jerry Lawler's feud was getting over (it was very good), they pulled Jerry and had him put over HHH at SummerSlam.
Not just no, but HELL no. Shawn is VERY retired and he went out like he was supposed to...on his back....more than likely it's Kane (yawn)
I got Kane too. They don't have any heels on Smackdown "worthy" for a main even level feud with Taker and Kane hasn't had a sustained run as a heel in a while. The last time, with him feuding with Rey, came off as weak.
I feel if Kane doesn't win the world title(the sign of a legit push) it shouldn't be him. It would make him seem weak and bitter and that never works in the brothers type storyline.
As far as the Taker angle, I hope it is not Kane either. I am hoping that the WWE has a new monster heel in waiting.
That would be nice. But there aren't a lot of big guys out there ready to work on Undertaker's level.
Not only that.It would be great to see him get inducted into the Hall of Fame next year in Atlanta.Plus Sting is still recovery from shoulder surgery which is why his 1rst match with RVD and his match with Jarrett were so short.
True. Dreamer has stated in the past that his character was the guy who ultimately never won the feud. He wins the World Title and he got screwed out of it 5 minutes later. He beats his biggest rival and is beat down immediately by someone else.He wins the Tag Title but ends up stuck partnering with his most hated rival,etc. This reeks of an attempt to further convince Heyman to come on as booker which I don't think he'll do without significant power.
Raw(or whichever brand HHH is on) is where promising young guys go to have their careers stalled or die.Kofi,MVP,Carlito,and Swagger were some of the main young guys who have seen their pushes diminish while in that position.Sheamus has taken advantage of HHH's endorsement and done well while Drew McIntyre failed to garner the fan's attention in spite of Triple H being a fan.
According to a source within WWE, Bryan Danielson's release from the company did not raise many backstage eye brows following last week's NXT invasion angle on Raw. According to what I was told, immediately after the incident where Danielson choked ring announcer Justin Roberts occurred, the WWE creative team knew there would be ramifications to Danielson's actions as what he did is not allowed in the company.
I was told that it is well known amongst wrestlers and employees in WWE that blatant choke holds with weapons or the ring ropes are not allowed in WWE, and the reason why is directly because of the events which occurred during the Chris Benoit tragedy.
I was told that Vince McMahon himself called Danielson directly on Friday night and informed him of his WWE release. Immediately after, Stephanie McMahon informed the rest of the WWE employees and talent that Danielson was no longer with the company.
Many online reports are suggesting that Danielson was thrown under the bus, so to speak, with this firing and from what I was told that is generally true. The source I spoke with gave me the impression that Danielson will be re-hired on the "91st day," which is a reference to his 90 day no-compete clause. Of course this is NOT a confirmation that Danielson will indeed be hired back, but the impression I was given is that Danielson's firing was something that WWE had to do to make sure they followed protocol, and not necessarily something that WWE wanted to do.
I was told that it is well known amongst wrestlers and employees in WWE that blatant choke holds with weapons or the ring ropes are not allowed in WWE, and the reason why is directly because of the events which occurred during the Chris Benoit tragedy.
I was told that Vince McMahon himself called Danielson directly on Friday night and informed him of his WWE release. Immediately after, Stephanie McMahon informed the rest of the WWE employees and talent that Danielson was no longer with the company.
Many online reports are suggesting that Danielson was thrown under the bus, so to speak, with this firing and from what I was told that is generally true. The source I spoke with gave me the impression that Danielson will be re-hired on the "91st day," which is a reference to his 90 day no-compete clause. Of course this is NOT a confirmation that Danielson will indeed be hired back, but the impression I was given is that Danielson's firing was something that WWE had to do to make sure they followed protocol, and not necessarily something that WWE wanted to do.
I spoke with former WCW World Champion, Diamond Dallas Page, earlier this week and he asked for us to post the following on our site. He's asking for support from you, the fans, as he tries to make the cut for Oprah's new reality show looking for the next big tv host. Dallas Page needs your votes to increase his chances of getting on the program.
The following was sent in by DDP:
"This is my direct link to OPRAH'S competition
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I call it "OWN your LIFE" with Dallas Page What else did you think I was going to call it right... Ha! This is a HUGE contest that Oprah is doing to launch her OWN Network... Her Producing partner is Heavy Weight Super Mogul Mark Burnett (Survivor, Celeb Apprentice)...
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It's time for Diamond Dallas Page to make the next step to Changing the World and this sure would be a Great Opportunity to do just that... Thanks again for your time!
DDP"
http://myown.oprah.com/audition/index.html?request=video_details&response_id=8600&promo_id=1
The following was sent in by DDP:
"This is my direct link to OPRAH'S competition
http://myown.oprah.com/audition/index.html?request=video_details&response_id=8600&promo_id=1
I call it "OWN your LIFE" with Dallas Page What else did you think I was going to call it right... Ha! This is a HUGE contest that Oprah is doing to launch her OWN Network... Her Producing partner is Heavy Weight Super Mogul Mark Burnett (Survivor, Celeb Apprentice)...
And I NEED YOUR VOTES to get noticed. I NEED YOUR VOTES GUYS!!! So please register and VOTE for me and if you feel comfortable, please send it out to you friends and ask them to vote for me and send it out to their friends and family.
If you have time I would love to hear your thoughts on my audition once you see it. There's a place right there at the bottom of the page and I am doing my best to comment on all of them.
It's time for Diamond Dallas Page to make the next step to Changing the World and this sure would be a Great Opportunity to do just that... Thanks again for your time!
DDP"
http://myown.oprah.com/audition/index.html?request=video_details&response_id=8600&promo_id=1
Caught the beginning and ending of Raw last night. The beginning was good with Wade and Bret going back and forth but the ending was weak, with the NXT guys running from Santino Marella and R-Truth. If there was more after that, I missed it since I turned the channel.
ODB has been released from TNA. Damn. That chick was really popular and, to me, hysterical in a White trash, "Talladega Nights", Ricky Bobby, Squidbillies-type of way.
Impact Spoilers upcoming posted in lemon chiffon in case you want to be surprised
Flair's group of AJ, Beer Money, Wolfe, and Kazarian is called "Fortune" (not in love with the name)
The Band has been stripped of the tag titles (good)
The Abyss turn is starting this week, not going to spoil what he does to Mr. Anderson
Flair vs. Jay Lethal at Victory Road
ODB has been released from TNA. Damn. That chick was really popular and, to me, hysterical in a White trash, "Talladega Nights", Ricky Bobby, Squidbillies-type of way.
Impact Spoilers upcoming posted in lemon chiffon in case you want to be surprised
Flair's group of AJ, Beer Money, Wolfe, and Kazarian is called "Fortune" (not in love with the name)
The Band has been stripped of the tag titles (good)
The Abyss turn is starting this week, not going to spoil what he does to Mr. Anderson
Flair vs. Jay Lethal at Victory Road
Thanks. I dvr'ed it and I always catch it before the new episode comes on. That kind of saves it but the whole chase thing was mad corny. Now, NOW, Santino Marella is a tough guy. GTFOH! And where were all these guys to save John Cena and Jerry Lawler and Punk last week? John Cena has to be one of the most boring promos to ever headline WWE.
more bullshit!!!! I know I'm not bugging but didn't Cena put somebody in that STF move a while back and wrapped the dam ring ropes around the guys neck and choke the shit out him to win the match. Was it Umaga or somebody like that, and Cena used his handcuffs to choke out Orton in the STF, and that Heath Slater dude choked Cena with the rope too!! HHH is a homesexual 4 this shit, what a coward
It's all about Politics. Now that Linda McMahon has a chance of winning her Senate seat, her opponents are now WWE Watchdogs.
In May, Chris Benoit’s father wrote an open letter to the people of Connecticut putting WWE on Blast saying they make wrestlers work like dogs but offer no emotional support. For this reason alone He begged the People of Connecticut not vote for Linda McMahon. Even though she said she's a Fiscal Conservative, the company has to make sure they stay clear of anything that COULD trigger any backlash.
Yea it makes sense they got rid of Bryan Danielson when you factor in all of the elements. I think people blaiming Triple H is bullshit. That dude has no clout like that in the company. He maybe can entertain about giving certain wrestlers pushes but I don't see him saying fire Danielson because his kid got scared. Sounded like bullshit.
Seemed like the WWE had to fire someone and they fired Danielson. I'm pretty sure once the 90 days are up he'll be back in the WWE or they'll try to bring him back. Whether he re-signs is another question.
But I was under the impression all of this shit was choreographed? So Danielson just comes up to the ring announcer and choked him by his tie? I wonder what the hell was the announcer thinking.
Seemed like the WWE had to fire someone and they fired Danielson. I'm pretty sure once the 90 days are up he'll be back in the WWE or they'll try to bring him back. Whether he re-signs is another question.
But I was under the impression all of this shit was choreographed? So Danielson just comes up to the ring announcer and choked him by his tie?
I wonder what the hell was the announcer thinking.
Unless someone else signs him to a contract, expect them to bring him back. They even gave him a babyface excuse by saying he "felt remorse", which would be utter bullshit considering he was the ring leader and doing the most damage.
I agree. I think if he really fought for him, Danielson would still be there but I think this particular story is a stretch.
Seemed like the WWE had to fire someone and they fired Danielson. I'm pretty sure once the 90 days are up he'll be back in the WWE or they'll try to bring him back. Whether he re-signs is another question.
But I was under the impression all of this shit was choreographed? So Danielson just comes up to the ring announcer and choked him by his tie?
I do think they fired Danielson for the reasons they stated. Justin Roberts may have known he was going to be attacked and his facial expression was real as shit. The violence was so random, I think they just got a broad outline of what to do and how to end it by concentrating on Cena. Other than that, they probably freestyled it.
Yea that shit was crazy. When I saw it I was thinking "Damn, was he in on it"? It looked like he was really choking the shit out of him. I think Jericho was choking the shit out of JBL on a PPV or a Raw but this shit here looked more real.
Its a shame how all of this went down. I saw Raw last night and my DVR stopped before the shit was over so I missed what happened after the RAW match but I hear the NXT guys came back. I was skeptical on whether or not Danielson was ever really fired but when I heard Barrett give that bullshit excuse last night that's when it hit me yea he was fired. They should've kept the shit real and said they fired him for choking the announcer. That way when the 90 days are up you can slide him back in to the angle. Now they're going to have him be some face which will work but I thought having him be a heel was unexpected and much more interesting.
@dtown: HHH does have that level of power. He is the only wrestler allowed to sit in on the script reading and writing process. he changes things as he sees fit because the head of creative at Raw is his wife!!!! he is known to change things on a whim. Booker T was supposed to win the title from him at a PPV that they had built up, last minute he had his wife change it, same with Jeff hardy and he also fucked CM Punk over initially telling Vince he didn't have "it" As long as you're his friend, you get pluses. U can't tell me that pale irish cat was ready 4 primetime
John Cena cuts promos like the "President" in those big war/alien invasion movies.
ALl that happened before the new no-choking policy I think. And Heath Slater didn't choke Cena with the rope. And that HHH story was fake. LOL.
Like I said above, I can see him having that type of power. I can see him sitting in on script readings. I can see him giving himself a title a shot. I can't however see him having someone fired. It just smelled like bullshit. And I don't see Vince complying with a firing HHH wants when it could potentially earn Vince money. Don't see it.