Update: Deshaun Watson is suspended 11 games and fined $5 million dollars

Adroit

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As usual, the NFL has the worst union in sports. How you go from a CBA that let's the commissioner arbitrarily determine punishment, to a CBA that calls for an independent arbitrator to determine punishment, but gives the commissioner power to determine punishment if he doesn't like the punishment the player got?
 

KoolJay

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Not only do they want a longer suspension and a fine, but they also want him to get some help.
LOL... is there some type of "anonymous" group. Massage Anonymous..... Shytttttttt, 90% of the people I met when I was stationed Korea went and got Rub and Tugs or "Haircuts". The 10% that didn't were women. LOL.
I guess his being away from football last year don't count?
 

woodchuck

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LOL... is there some type of "anonymous" group. Massage Anonymous..... Shytttttttt, 90% of the people I met when I was stationed Korea went and got Rub and Tugs or "Haircuts". The 10% that didn't were women. LOL.
I guess his being away from football last year don't count?
Ah, the good ol' Steam & Cream! Last year doesn't count, because he wasn't suspended. He refused to play another down for Houston, so they sent him home with pay while they looked for a trade partner. And then, all of his shit got aired, and nobody wanted him at the price they were asking.
 

Day_Carver

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As usual, the NFL has the worst union in sports. How you go from a CBA that let's the commissioner arbitrarily determine punishment, to a CBA that calls for an independent arbitrator to determine punishment, but gives the commissioner power to determine punishment if he doesn't like the punishment the player got?
Well when 30% of the players don't even fucking vote; then they get what they fucking deserve!!!
 

TIMEISMONEY

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As usual, the NFL has the worst union in sports. How you go from a CBA that let's the commissioner arbitrarily determine punishment, to a CBA that calls for an independent arbitrator to determine punishment, but gives the commissioner power to determine punishment if he doesn't like the punishment the player got?
Shit is pathetic. Can't even listen to sports radio for a few days....all the mouth piece's will be doing nothing butt kissing ass
 

babydaddy

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As usual, the NFL has the worst union in sports. How you go from a CBA that let's the commissioner arbitrarily determine punishment, to a CBA that calls for an independent arbitrator to determine punishment, but gives the commissioner power to determine punishment if he doesn't like the punishment the player got?
Yea its similar to if a judge doesn't like the jury decision, he over rules. This seems like a test run to try something new, the independent arbitrator is either getting replaced after this season or they will get rid of the independent arbitrator all together.
 

easy_b

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This is a very fucked up situation here and the sad thing about this Houston attorneys went to two grand juries and they said nothing was there….. I usually stick up for women first when I hear about stories like this but in this case most if not all of these women want money they knew the assignment when they gave him a massage. NFL you guys have to get this shit right because remember what Ben Roethlisberger did.
 

easy_b

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Godell is mad his own personal conduct penalty only calls for 6 games. That's all she could give him.
Yeah that’s exactly what’s going on and they are free to change the code of conduct because of the white boys so we are going to see what happens here
 

jasonblacc

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He did and the Houston Texans seriously need to be dragged in the dirt because they set him up. Usually I am with the women when situations like this come about but in this case these women was lying assholes.

some are lying but dude is guilty


Got them a yes man

he suspended Zeke who really was innocent and when the black lady exonerated Zeke they called this guy to lay the hammer

Then Robert Kraft needs to go with him..lol
No it’s nowhere near the same

maybe Daniel Snyder but Kraft git a consensual hand job
 

PlayerR

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some are lying but dude is guilty


Got them a yes man

he suspended Zeke who really was innocent and when the black lady exonerated Zeke they called this guy to lay the hammer


No it’s nowhere near the same

maybe Daniel Snyder but Kraft git a consensual hand job

Maybe, but they had Kraft on tape & also proof that dude visited that "massage parlor" on other occasions. Dude still broke the law & didn't even get so much as a slap on the wrist. Human trafficking & prostitution are supposed to be this big issue on this country that something needs to be done about.
 

kesq

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Maybe, but they had Kraft on tape & also proof that dude visited that "massage parlor" on other occasions. Dude still broke the law & didn't even get so much as a slap on the wrist. Human trafficking & prostitution are supposed to be this big issue on this country that something needs to be done about.
I love how people are dragging kraft but the fact is that they have zero evidence that he committed a crime. Getting a handjob in a massage parlor, even on tape, is not a crime anywhere in America. It's just consensual sex. But I'm all for that racist getting dragged though.
 

TIMEISMONEY

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some are lying but dude is guilty


Got them a yes man

he suspended Zeke who really was innocent and when the black lady exonerated Zeke they called this guy to lay the hammer


No it’s nowhere near the same

maybe Daniel Snyder but Kraft git a consensual hand job
What is he guilty off??
 

PlayerR

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I love how people are dragging kraft but the fact is that they have zero evidence that he committed a crime. Getting a handjob in a massage parlor, even on tape, is not a crime anywhere in America. It's just consensual sex. But I'm all for that racist getting dragged though.

Dude the police raided the spot & had video evidence. Kraft pulled strings or whatever and had the video evidence suppressed. If you, I or anyone else on here got caught in that sting we would have gotten charged, in most states/jurisdictions solicitation has a 99% conviction rate.

And yes it is a damn crime, wtf planet do you live on?
 

D24OHA

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I love how people are dragging kraft but the fact is that they have zero evidence that he committed a crime. Getting a handjob in a massage parlor, even on tape, is not a crime anywhere in America. It's just consensual sex. But I'm all for that racist getting dragged though.

It becomes soliciting prostitution when money is exchanged for serial favors.....

He didn't get anfre hand job from his girlfriend .....

He got it in exchange for money = illegal
 

kesq

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Dude the police raided the spot & had video evidence. Kraft pulled strings or whatever and had the video evidence suppressed. If you, I or anyone else on here got caught in that sting we would have gotten charged, in most states/jurisdictions solicitation has a 99% conviction rate.

And yes it is a damn crime, wtf planet do you live on?
Then tell me what the crime was Perry Mason. And while you are at it, show me your source about a 99% conviction rate. I am fairly certain that is complete nonsense, but hey, show me something.
 
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This is a very fucked up situation here and the sad thing about this Houston attorneys went to two grand juries and they said nothing was there….. I usually stick up for women first when I hear about stories like this but in this case most if not all of these women want money they knew the assignment when they gave him a massage. NFL you guys have to get this shit right because remember what Ben Roethlisberger did.

Nothing as in not evidence to be charged and convicted of a crime. That doesn't mean nothing was done wrong.

And, no they didn't know the assignment. There were 60 something women randomly in different states he found on IG or booked. He wasn't hitting them up and asking for happy endings. Ppart of him getting off was the shock. Just like he paid off a massage parlor when they went to him about it.
 

Complex

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Then tell me what the crime was Perry Mason. And while you are at it, show me your source about a 99% conviction rate. I am fairly certain that is complete nonsense, but hey, show me something.

If you whip out your dick and nut on someone is it a crime?

It's hard to be convicted of rape, much less he say she say of what occurred.That shouldn't be the standard of right or wrong.

You dudes keep acting like because a crime didn't happen, everything was cool. That shit is predatory, and probably was going to escalate.
 

kesq

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If you whip out your dick and nut on someone is it a crime?

It's hard to be convicted of rape, much less he say she say of what occurred.That shouldn't be the standard of right or wrong.

You dudes keep acting like because a crime didn't happen, everything was cool. That shit is predatory, and probably was going to escalate.
Only if you did it in public, OR without their consent. I'm not judging what is "cool", I'm just talking about crime. And there is no evidence that Kraft committed one.
 

PlayerR

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Then tell me what the crime was Perry Mason. And while you are at it, show me your source about a 99% conviction rate. I am fairly certain that is complete nonsense, but hey, show me something.

In 2019, Kraft was charged with solicitation as part of an anti-sex trafficking investigation into a string of about 10 massage parlors
 

PlayerR

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Only if you did it in public, OR without their consent. I'm not judging what is "cool", I'm just talking about crime. And there is no evidence that Kraft committed one.

Dude google is your friend, the Jupiter police had video evidence. It's still wild that Kraft was able to pull strings to get the video evidence in his case thrown out, but the massage parlor women that he solicited were still charged.
 
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