What unpopular opinions do you have? Hip-Hop/Rap edition

[cnc]

-Lupe Fiasco was a poser

-Newsense from Psychodrama is a top 5 female MC of all time

-Eightball carried MJG. When they finally released solo albums, Eightball dropped a classic double album, MJG, left on his own, his shit was trash.

-Kendrick Lamar’s last album was trash.

-Cormega was the best MC in ‘The Firm’.

-Foxy Brown ran circles around Lil Kim as an MC, never got Kim’s level of public acclaim.

-De La Soul sucked.

-Listening to overly sexualized lyrics and copious amounts of misogyny in rap wasn’t no big deal until you started having kids, especially daughters, now it’s hard to listen to a lot of stuff.

-XXL > The Source

Part 2
-“Mr. Ice Cream Man gets a lot of credit, but “Ha” by Juve is the song that opened the south to the rest of the country.

-“Ha” is also one of, if not maybe, the greatest rap videos ever made. #2 would be “What You See Is What You Get” by Xzibit.

-Little Brother is a top 5 hip hop group of all time.

-Phonte Coleman is a top 5 MC of all time.

-Eminem had one good album, the first one. The rest was some bs angry white boy rap/rock/grunge blend where he wasn’t even rhyming he was mainly yelling. But, he knew his audience and the suburban white boys and the like ate it up.

 

[playahaitian]

Ok now for real

I'm gone

Wait....

I like Chronic 2001 better than the original

Ok now I'm done.

 

[yaBoi]

Yeah ok Melle Mel

not sure what that means

 

[A to Dah K]

i wouldn't say suck but definitely overrated
hell a lot of times his rhymes didn't even make sense or barely rhymed at all

he was a much better actor than rapper

Pac before death row was the shit
When my homie call
Gotta get yours with mc breed
I get around
Keep ya head up
Brenda got a baby

Pac on death row was ASS

 

[playahaitian]

All dead rappers end up on the GOAT list.

Well not ALL...

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

I put MJG solo debut album up against any debut album in hip hop history

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

-Nas has two decent albums Illmatic and Stillmatic and a few decent songs he's dropped over the years but a lot of that shit will never live up to those two albums.

-Guru from Gangstarr doesn't get his props for his lyrics and how dope he remained over a few decades

-UGK is overrated,I couldn't listen to their whole tape/cd never and 8ball&MJG were much better rappers and picked better beats.

-80's/90's hiphop before gangster rap was force fed to the masses was the greatest time in hiphop because it was alive,it had substance that influenced people to have fun but also stand for something and be proud to be black.

-Gangster rap helped kill a lot of us,the soundtrack to so many of our lives.

-Just cause you can make rap music doesn't mean you should make rap music

-Puffy and Suge are the main reasons 2pac and Biggie are dead,they set the stage for all of that street shit to go on,East vs West,company vs company,my crew vs your crew.Suge had Biggie killed.

-Southern rap went mainstream and lost its sound,which is like microwave popcorn.

-NYC is the birth place of hiphop/rap but the rappers/lables and people with power didn't pass the mic to no one but themselves which killed off a lot of the local talent and then they started searching for talent in other places.

-The more money came the more expensive rappers and rap became and it's at the point where it's just too expensive for most to even imagine having or enjoying the shit they claim to own;Fuck a Bentley,Maybac,a Jet,a mansion and the rest of that shiiit their wasting their money on.

I agree with 8 and G part

 

[A to Dah K]

Get Rich is wack and over rated

Looking back at it now. ABSOLUTELY shit has no play back value at all.

Fifty got about 3 songs anybody wanna hear
Many men
What up gangsta
Its your birthday.

Maybe pimp

After that its all features from games album and so seductive by yayo .

Ja career>>>50 career

 

[cnc]

I put MJG solo debut album up against any debut album in hip hop history

Respectfully disagree, I thought that No More Glory was trash.

 

[A to Dah K]

Yes

But she still one of the best mcs I ever heard

Male or female

And best voices period.

And that solo album is perfection regardless of the process.

You consider that album a rap album? Or pop?

 

[A to Dah K]

RZA>>> DRE

 

[playahaitian]

You consider that album a rap album? Or pop?

Both

Which is why it resonates

It's a HIP HOP album.

 

[A to Dah K]

Both

Which is why it resonates

It's a HIP HOP album.

How can it be both?

 

[Heavenlywings77]

IMO, the more famous Drake got, the worst he became. His mixtape era was dope.

It's the truth.

 

[n2jersey2]

Whatever these Younguns are rapping about...AIN'T RAP! I get that from a Stripper Standpoint, it might fit. But if all the beats, from Drake to the Migos sound the same.......Keep It.

 

[A to Dah K]

Gucci mane is VERY overrated
Jeezy fell off after his first album

 

[mrcmd187]

New York will never come back

Sad truth but I still have hope, some kats to busy trying to sound like everywhere else but NY.

 

[cnc]

Another couple:
-A rapper’s street legitimacy went out the window as a variable for their career when Rick Ross was outed as as a former CO and no one really blinked an eye because he’d had a couple of hit albums.

-Drake is not a top 10 rapper but will end up a top 10 rapper due to longevity. He shows no signs of slowing down, has been in the game 15+ years and still is an A-lister.

 

[playahaitian]

How can it be both?

Of course it can

Define pop

And then define rap for me.

 

[playahaitian]

Good lawd

Why I am back in here?

What kind of evil wormhole is this????

 

[A to Dah K]

I don't understand,how folks put her as the greatest female MC after having one album. People discredit Biggie for having two albums but change the rules for her. That album wasn't all that good in the first place.

There should be a two album rule for any discussion of ranking an MC.I understand,quality vs quantity argument but can an artist have at least two albums before talking about them in any type of ranking.


Ill take Lyte,Roxanne Shante and Latifah over her.

Most def Latifah over lauryn

 

[geechiedan]

How can it be both?

Hip-Pop (its a real thing)

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Respectfully disagree, I thought that No More Glory was trash.

The entire?

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Looking back at it now. ABSOLUTELY shit has no play back value at all.

Fifty got about 3 songs anybody wanna hear
Many men
What up gangsta
Its your birthday.

Maybe pimp

After that its all features from games album and so seductive by yayo .

Ja career>>>50 career

Bruh had the cheat code.survived a shooting which further elevated his gangsta , had the Dre and Em co sign and I'll admit he can write a hook.

 

[A to Dah K]

Bruh had the cheat code.survived a shooting which further elevated his gangsta , had the Dre and Em co sign and I'll admit he can write a hook.

Yup.
Marketed very well used the whole ja thing to get ahead, then took his whole formula and ran with it

 

[playahaitian]

Mystikal became meh when he blew up. His early shit was insane!

I liked Bun B, but I thought Pimp C was a good producer and a shitty rapper.

Mystical to me is so damn one of one

He was James Brown and Busta?

He was animated funny talented great voice INSANE lyrics great hooks pop friendly adult AND kid friendly

If he could just stop raping people...

Could he have been one of the biggest hip hop stars EVER?

 

[geechiedan]

Mystical to me is so damn one of one

He was James Brown and Busta?

He was animated funny talented great voice INSANE lyrics great hooks pop friendly adult AND kid friendly

If he could just stop raping people...

Could he have been one of the biggest hip hop stars EVER?

text book lesson of a talented dude who couldnt get out of his own way to save his life...literally!

 

[A to Dah K]

Of course it can

Define pop

And then define rap for me.

Pop music - New World Encyclopedia

www.newworldencyclopedia.org

Hip-hop | Definition, History, Dance, Rap, Music, Culture, & Facts | Britannica

Hip-hop is a cultural movement that attained popularity in the 1980s and ’90s. It is the backing music for rap, the musical style incorporating rhythmic and/or rhyming speech that became the movement’s most lasting and influential art form.

www.britannica.com

 

[A to Dah K]

Hip-Pop (its a real thing)

Thats more suitable

 

[playahaitian]

Pop music - New World Encyclopedia

www.newworldencyclopedia.org

Hip-hop | Definition, History, Dance, Rap, Music, Culture, & Facts | Britannica

Hip-hop is a cultural movement that attained popularity in the 1980s and ’90s. It is the backing music for rap, the musical style incorporating rhythmic and/or rhyming speech that became the movement’s most lasting and influential art form.

www.britannica.com

So you believe the terms rap and hip hop are interchangeable?

 

[playahaitian]

Andre 3000 could fart on the mic for 20 secs and you niggas would call it a masterpiece.

the cadence, flow and iambic pentameter would be analyzed for months.

rightfully so

 

[furlough]

gawd damn!
opinions being thrown around like grenades in this piece, lol

 

[playahaitian]

gawd damn!
opinions being thrown around like grenades in this piece, lol

Its like a Dunkirk and Saving private Ryan and born on the fourth of July with all the misfires strays and ignorant carnage up in here.

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Mystical to me is so damn one of one

He was James Brown and Busta?

He was animated funny talented great voice INSANE lyrics great hooks pop friendly adult AND kid friendly

If he could just stop raping people...

Could he have been one of the biggest hip hop stars EVER?

Nah cause his albums after Mind are mid

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Mos Def only has ONE good album