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Chicago police say that US actor Jussie Smollett is suspected of filing a false police report.

The Empire star had said he was subjected to a homophobic and racist physical attack by two men in January.

Doubt was later cast on his account after US media reported that police believed he may have paid two Nigerian brothers to stage the attack.

On Wednesday a police spokesman confirmed they were presenting evidence about the actor to a Grand Jury.

"Jussie Smollett is now officially classified as a suspect in a criminal investigation by Chicago Police for filing a false police report (Class 4 felony)," the spokesman, Anthony Guglielmi, said in a tweet.

Mr Smollett's lawyers have not yet responded to the development.

His lawyers have previously issued a strong denial of allegations that he had faked the attack, saying the actor had "been further victimised by claims... that Jussie played a role in his own attack. Nothing is further from the truth and anyone claiming otherwise is lying".

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Earlier on Wednesday, CBS Chicago obtained footage which appeared to show the two brothers buying materials, including ski masks, that had allegedly been worn by the actor's attackers.

The brothers, Ola and Abel Osundairo, left the US after the alleged attack and were arrested on their return last week. They were later released and are said to be co-operating with the investigation.

One of the brothers is Smollett's personal trainer and both have worked as extras on Empire.

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What did Smollett say happened?
He said he had gone out to buy food late at night when two white men hurled racial and homophobic insults at him, punched him, poured a chemical substance over him and put a rope around his neck.

"This is Maga country," he says they told him, referring to President Donald Trump's Make America Great Again slogan.

The actor said he had been "forever changed" by the incident.

The incident led to an outpouring of support for Smollett from stars including Oscar winner Viola Davis and supermodel Naomi Campbell.
 
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Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi confirmed Jussie Smollett is officially a suspect in a criminal investigation for filing a false police report, a felony.



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Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi confirmed Wednesday afternoon that Jussie Smollett is officially a suspect in a criminal investigation for filing a false police report, a Class 4 felony.

Guglielmi said CPD detectives are currently presenting evidence before a Cook County grand jury.


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Wednesday evening ABC7 Eyewitness News obtained surveillance video of the Osundairo brothers linked to the reported attack from a beauty supply shop.



Wednesday evening ABC7 Eyewitness News obtained surveillance video of the Osundairo brothers linked to the reported attack from a beauty supply shop. The video shows the brothers purchasing items possibly used in the case.

Employees at Beauty House in Chicago's Uptown neighborhood said the brothers came to the business the day before the alleged attack, and a security guard said he remembers the siblings because they purchased ski masks.

Chicago police confirmed the authenticity of the surveillance video, which shows the brothers purchasing numerous items, including a red ball cap, gloves, and ski masks.

Security guard Montago Silas said he was asked by the siblings if the store sold ski masks, but the business did not have the traditional balaclava-type mask; they only carried the kind with separate eyeholes. He thought it strange that they purchased them.

"It was bizarre because it was unusual for people to purchase these type of masks, not since the 70s, but I thought it was a little strange," Montago said.



The surveillance video also shows them leaving the store. They get into a silver-colored two-door coupe before driving away. Hours later, Smollett reported the alleged attack.

Montago said he's been keeping up with the Smollett story, but never thought he'd become a part of it.

Smollett reported on Jan. 29 that he was attacked by two masked men who hurled racist and homophobic slurs at him, beat him, threw some type of chemical liquid on him, and looped a rope around his neck in Chicago's Streeterville neighborhood.

Two days after the alleged attack, Chicago police released surveillance images of two people they said they considered persons of interest in the attack. The pair were later identified as brothers and brought in for questioning.

A law enforcement source said the brothers allege Smollett paid them to orchestrate and stage the attack. The brothers said Smollett was upset that the threatening letter sent to "Empire"'s Chicago studios didn't get enough attention.

Detectives are actively investigating the allegation, but have not confirmed it to be true, the official said.

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Wednesday Gugliemi confirmed prosecutors are speaking with Jussie Smollett's attorneys as part of their investigation into an alleged attack on the "Empire" actor.

"We are hopeful that we'll have a chance to ask the questions that we have," Guglielmi said in a statement. "It doesn't matter what the investigation shows; if you have information that's helpful to law enforcement, it behooves you to contact authorities and share that information. We have been very diplomatic and have been working with him and his attorneys. We got information, and that what we want [sic] to run by him. If the opportunity is not taken [to come in], we're going to go with other methods to create a culture of accountability."

Guglielmi said he could not confirm reports that half a dozen subpoenas seeking Smollett's cell phone and bank records have been issued.

"The only tool for detectives to be able to corroborate information is a search warrant and a subpoena. I am not at liberty to discuss the specifics, but it is not uncommon for any detective or law enforcement to subpoena records," Guglielmi said.

Wednesday afternoon the brothers were again seen in the courthouse at 26th and California. They were also present Tuesday, when officials said they spoke with prosecutors but did not present any testimony to the grand jury.

Over the weekend Chicago police said they were "eager" to re-interview Smollett after releasing the two brothers without charges.

"We are not racist. We are not homophobic and we are not anti-Trump. We were born and raised in Chicago and are American citizens," the brothers said in a statement.

The FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service are investigating the letter, which was sent to the Chicago studio for "Empire" on Jan. 22, and whether Smollett played a role in sending the letter, two federal officials confirmed to ABC News. The letter is currently in the FBI crime lab for analysis, according to one of those sources.

20th Century Fox Television and Fox Entertainment issued a statement Wednesday, saying, "Jussie Smollett continues to be a consummate professional on set and as we have previously stated, he is not being written out of the show."

Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx recused herself from the investigation surrounding the alleged attack on Smollett, her office told ABC News on Tuesday.

"Out of an abundance of caution, the decision to recuse herself was made to address potential questions of impartiality based upon familiarity with potential witnesses in the case," a spokeswoman told ABC News via email.

Foxx clarified her reasons Wednesday. The Cook County State's Attorney's Office released a statement that explained: "Shortly after the incident occurred in late January, State's Attorney Foxx had conversations with a family member of Jussie Smollett about the incident and their concerns, and facilitated a connection to the Chicago Police Department who were investigating the incident. Based on those prior conversations and out of an abundance of caution, last week State's Attorney Foxx decided to remove herself from the decision making in this matter and delegated it to her First Assistant Joseph Magats, a 28-year veteran prosecutor."

Paperwork from the Illinois Board of Elections shows Vic Henderson, one of the attorneys representing Smollett, gave $250 to Foxx's campaign in 2016, but it was not related to the recusal.

Former Cook County State's Attorney Anita Alvarez criticized Foxx in a Facebook post Wednesday:

"Maybe I should have just recused myself from the difficult cases that came across my desk when I was State's Attorney. I was under the impression that when the voters elected me and I took my oath of office it meant I had to do my job."

Alvarez lost the March 2016 Democratic primary to Foxx, after fallout from the Laquan McDonald shooting investigation.
Last week, Smollett sat down with Good Morning America's Robin Roberts and spoke about the letter.

"Just because on the letter, it had a stick figure hanging from a tree with a gun pointing towards it with the words that said, 'Smollett, Jussie, you will die, black (expletive),'" Smollett said. "There was no address, but the return address said in big, red, you know, like caps, 'MAGA.' Did I make that up too?"

After the police department investigated Smollett's attack for weeks as a possible hate crime, they discovered that one of the brothers bought the rope to be used in the attack at a local hardware store. The Chicago Sun-Times reports the store was the Crafty Beaver hardware store in Ravenswood.

Late Saturday, Smollett's attorneys Todd S. Pugh and Victor P. Henderson released a statement, addressing reports that the actor may have staged the attack.

"As a victim of a hate crime who has cooperated with the police investigation, Jussie Smollett is angered and devastated by recent reports that the perpetrators are individuals he is familiar with. He has now been further victimized by claims attributed to these alleged perpetrators that Jussie played a role in his own attack. Nothing is further from the truth and anyone claiming otherwise is lying.

"One of these purported suspects was Jussie's personal trainer who he hired to ready him physically for a music video. It is impossible to believe that this person could have played a role in the crime against Jussie or would falsely claim Jussie's complicity.

"Jussie and his attorneys anticipate being further updated by the Chicago Police Department on the status of the investigation and will continue to cooperate. At the present time, Jussie and his attorneys have no inclination to respond to "unnamed" sources inside of the investigation, but will continue discussions through official channels."


ABC7 Eyewitness News learned Tuesday that Smollett pleaded no contest to DUI, driving without a license and providing false information to law enforcement in Los Angeles in 2007. He was sentenced to two years of probation and either spent three days in jail or paid a fine of $100 for the three misdemeanor charges, according to the LA city attorney's office, though it's unclear which option he chose.

If convicted of filing false police report, which is a felony in Illinois, Smollett could face up to three years in prison.
 
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Jussie Smollett now a suspect for filing false report to Chicago police
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Chicago police on Wednesday said they believe that “Empire” star Jussie Smollett made up claims that he was the target of a racist and homophobic attack — and evidence against him was being presented to a grand jury.

“Case Update: Jussie Smollett is now officially classified as a suspect in a criminal investigation by #ChicagoPolice for filing a false police report (Class 4 felony),” police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi tweeted.

“Detectives are currently presenting evidence before a Cook County Grand Jury.”

Under Illinois law, Smollett, 36, could face up to three years in prison if charged and convicted of the crime.

The announcement followed a stream of recent reports that increasingly cast doubt on Smollett’s story, including that two Nigerian brothers told investigators Smollett paid them $3,500 to stage the Jan. 29 incident.

It also came about 30 minutes after the siblings, Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo, were escorted into the grand jury offices at Chicago’s the Leighton Criminal Court Building.

The men were surrounded by about a half-dozen people in civilian clothing as they walked into the secure area on the fourth floor of the courthouse.

On Tuesday, the Osundairos had been about to testify before a grand jury when a last-minute, “Hail Mary” call to the prosecution from Smollett’s lawyers postponed their appearances, according to the local CBS News affiliate.

The defense said it might have new evidence in the case, CBS 2 reported earlier Wednesday.

Smollett, who is black and gay, claims that he was attacked around 2 a.m. near his apartment building in Chicago’s swank Streeterville neighborhood by two men who called him “Empire f—-t n—-r”, doused him with a liquid believed to be bleach and looped a rope around his neck.

Smollett also told detectives that the men shouted “MAGA country,” an apparent reference to President Trump’s signature “Make America Great Again” slogan.

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The Osundairo brothers were arrested Feb. 13 but released without charges two days later.

Reports have said they told cops Smollett paid them $3,500 to fake the incident and that he orchestrated the hoax because a supposed death threat he received through the mail a week later didn’t get enough attention.

A report Tuesday said the feds were investigating whether Smollett was behind the alleged death threat mailed to him at the Cinespace Chicago Film Studios, where TV’s “Empire” is shot.

An envelope addressed to him — and with “MAGA” written in the upper left-hand corner — contained a letter that said, “You will die black f-g” and showed a crudely drawn stick figure hanging from a tree.

The envelope also contained a powdery white substance that was determined to be acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol.

Speculation had swirled that Smollett concocted the attack because he thought he was about to be written off the show — a rumor that was adamantly denied by 20th Century Fox TV and Fox Entertainment.

The actor has denied having any part in the incident.
 
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woodchuck said:
"Even IF he was attacked, y'all still would've..." NO! Fuck you! It didn't happen! Let's focus on that! Fucking gays are doing EXACTLY what Repubs and MAGA zombies like to do now. "Fuck the facts, let's focus on this 'what if' thang." And they wonder why people reacted the way we did. This chick told me today, "Y'all happy it was fake." Yeah, I'm happy, my side won bitch! Come inside our locker room, so I can pour some victory champagne on yo' mad ass!
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I've been saying this for awhile now....You can't talk about the intolerance of others when you're doing the same thing.......:smh:
 
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This clown threw his own brother in the cross hairs so making two African associates take a fall is nothing to him.

So this guy is a total piece of shit.

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I did say earlier more crazy lie stories may come from Jussie I mean Justin lol.
 
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When he said he was choosing subway I knew there he was lying
Nobody chooses subway
You get Subway cause there's nothing else
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does all this make you even MORE cynical?

and does this make you a little MORE forgiving, with SOLID proof of the levels of STUPID apparently RESPONSIBLE people can descend too that maybe when people make the I didn't know excuse...

they aren't just racist or sexist....

they REALLY are JUST that stupid??
 
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Jussie Smollett Charged With Faking His Own Assault

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  • Feb. 20, 2019
Jussie Smollett, the “Empire” actor who said he was the victim of a hate crime, was indicted Wednesday night by an Illinois grand jury that found probable cause that he had actually staged the assault he reported to Chicago police in January.

Law enforcement officials said a grand jury had decided that Mr. Smollett falsely reported being attacked in a case that quickly drew national attention, and charged him with a felony count of disorderly conduct.

Mr. Smollett, who is black and openly gay, had told the police that, while walking in downtown Chicago, he had been confronted by masked men who hurled homophobic and racial slurs at him, and announced it was “MAGA country,” a reference to President Trump’s campaign slogan.

[A timeline of the Jussie Smollett case.]

Mr. Smollett had received an immediate outpouring of public support. Many cited his account as an example of another in a rising tide of hate crimes, which the F.B.I. reported last fall had increased for the third straight year.

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Mr. Smollett has continued to vehemently insist the incident occurred just as he reported it. A representative for him, Pamela Sharp, said that she was “aware of the news” but had no further comment.

In a statement Wednesday evening, the Chicago police said Mr. Smollet “is now officially classified as a suspect in a criminal investigation by #ChicagoPolice for filing a false police report (Class 4 felony). Detectives are currently presenting evidence before a Cook County Grand Jury.”

From the start, investigators had difficulty corroborating Mr. Smollett’s story, even with about a dozen detectives assigned to the case.



No surveillance cameras caught the attack. There were no witnesses. He had not reported it from the scene, and when he got home was still wearing a noose that he said the perpetrators had placed around his neck.

Investigators, though, were able to track two men who appeared on video footage not far from the scene that night. Using ride share data, they discovered the two were brothers who in fact knew Mr. Smollett. One had acted as an extra on “Empire.”

The police initially identified the brothers as possible suspects in the attack, but then released them without filing any charges. The men had reportedly told investigators that Mr. Smollett had coordinated a faux attack and paid them to participate in it.

The brothers, Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo, were brought in as witnesses to the grand jury Wednesday evening with their lawyer.

Filing a false police report in Illinois is technically referred to as disorderly conduct and can be charged as either a misdemeanor or a felony. In Mr. Smollett’s case, the police said the grand jury had decided on a felony count, which carries a maximum sentence of three years in prison.

Mr. Smollett’s lawyers, Todd S. Pugh and Victor P. Henderson, have said their client denies the police account. “Jussie Smollett is angered and devastated by recent reports that the perpetrators are individuals he is familiar with,” they said in a statement Saturday.

released an image of two men they considered “potential persons of interest wanted for questioning.” Mr. Smollett would later say in an interview on “Good Morning America” that he was convinced the men in the pictures were his attackers.

“Because I was there,” Mr. Smollett said. “For me, when that was released, I was like, ‘O.K., we’re getting somewhere.’ I don’t have any doubt in my mind that that’s them. Never did.”

On Feb. 13, the investigators detained the Osundairos after they landed in Chicago on a flight from Nigeria where they had flown just after the reported incident. Police raided their home and, according to CBS Chicago, removed items including an “Empire” script, a ski mask, a red hat and a magazine.

Held for two days without being charged, the brothers, who have both acted and who train as bodybuilders, were reported to have ultimately provided investigators with an account that depicted them as pretend assailants in a bit of street theater intended to shake up public perceptions. Investigators came to believe that the rope used may have been bought by the brothers at the Crafty Beaver hardware store in the Ravenswood neighborhood on Chicago’s North Side.

Police scoured the area, recovering some videotape from neighboring stories in an apparent effort to corroborate the brothers’ account.

Public opinion, once so strongly behind Mr. Smollett, began to waver in recent days. Al Sharpton, for example, who was among the people who had initially condemned the reported attack, said that if the incident was shown to have been a hoax, those responsible “ought to face accountability to the maximum.”

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In some ways the marked shift in opinion resembled the aftermath of last month’s incident in Washington where videos appeared to show high school students from Covington, Ky,. wearing “Make America Great Again” hats, engage in a standoff with an elderly Native American man. As more videos surfaced, the encounter appeared to have been more complicated. The students themselves had been subjected to ridicule by African-American protesters nearby and their defenders suggested they had been unfairly portrayed by a liberal media too quick to judge.

In the Smollett case, the Chicago police continued for weeks to assert that Mr. Smollett was considered a victim. But in recent days, the demeanor of investigators changed. On Tuesday, they released an unconfirmed tip reporting that Mr. Smollett had been seen with the brothers in an elevator on the night of the attack. The report was later debunked but the change in perspective by the police was clear.
 
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does all this make you even MORE cynical?

and does this make you a little MORE forgiving, with SOLID proof of the levels of STUPID apparently RESPONSIBLE people can descend too that maybe when people make the I didn't know excuse...

they aren't just racist or sexist....

they REALLY are JUST that stupid??
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Scroll back a few pages and read a magazine read by millions calling out straight black men for not coming to his support
How we are the real problem in this scenario
Then ask me if I feel any empathy?


People still saying they don't believe it
The brothers are literally on tape buying the fucking supplies
 
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Why Would Somebody Fake a Hate Crime?
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Jussie Smollett. Photo: Dominik Bindl/Getty Images

We still don’t know exactly what happened in the Jussie Smollett case that has dominated the news cycle for the past week. What we do know is that after the Empire star revealed he was allegedly the victim of a racist and homophobic hate crime, conflicting reports started to emerge suggesting that Smollett may have been involved in orchestrating the incident. Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo, the two brothers who were originally considered suspects, both knew Smollett in advance of the attack and told Chicago police that they were hired by Smollett. After the Chicago PD announced they were “shifting the trajectory” of their investigation, Smollett said in a statement that he is “angered and devastated by recent reports that the perpetrators are individuals he is familiar with” and that anyone claiming he played a role in his own attack “is lying.”

While it’s too soon to render a verdict on what exactly went down, if the case does prove to be a hoax, the ramifications are hard to overstate. As we’ve seen in the extremely rare cases involving false rape allegations, they serve as ammo for people looking to undermine the credibility of genuine victims (like clockwork, Donald Trump Jr. is already tweeting about Smollett’s story, in which his attackers were originally described as two men shouting, “This is MAGA country”). But what would motivate someone to pretend to be the victim of a hate crime? We called up Dr. Marc Feldman, who is not involved in the case but is an expert on factitious disorder and Munchausen syndrome by proxy, to learn more about “factitious victimization” — a disorder that causes people to feign victimhood for psychological reasons — and how it could come into play in the Smollett case.

What did you think when you first heard this case might be a hoax?

Munchausen syndrome refers to the most extreme examples of “factitious disorder,” which is the official psychiatric term for people who feign illness or injury for intangible reasons. Ever since I encountered my first case of a woman who faked cancer for emotional reasons back in 1989, I’ve obviously been more sensitive to that possibility than most people ever would be. I try not to falsely accuse people and that’s why I am approaching this subject with a little timidity. But when it does arise I think it’s important that we identify it and help educate the public about it.

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This case made me think of factitious victimization because there have been some somewhat similar cases in the past where individuals have engineered their own apparent hate attacks, hate crimes, and it turns out the individual himself coordinated the whole thing. I first became aware of it in the context of the 9/11 attacks, where way more people claimed to have been victims than was conceivable. They claimed to be in the World Trade Center or they claimed to be first responders who suffered a lot of physical consequences. Some of them did it for money but there were also some people who seemed to do it just for the notoriety or the fame and the attention it would predictably attract. In my book Dying to Be Ill: True Stories of Medical Deception, I talked about a police officer who committed suicide but created a scenario in which it appeared he was a homicide victim in the line of duty, so he got a hero’s burial. That’s obviously an extreme case but he so badly wanted to be honored after his death that he contorted the situation to meet these emotional needs. And there are many other cases. I have studied factitious rape claims, and that’s another controversial area. The FBI says only about 5 percent of rape allegations reported to police are not true. But when it does arrive it can be extraordinarily disruptive.

As you said, it’s a controversial area; I think some people would argue that giving too much attention to these very rare false reports could be a way of sowing distrust about genuine accusations, which are much more common.

Of course you’re right. Even in a 1994 paper I wrote about it, it concluded by saying that even if a woman has a known history of deceptive behavior, new claims should be assiduously reviewed and analyzed as if they’re valid reports.

Is there a difference between cases where someone feigns sickness or feigns being the victim of a crime for a tangible gain like money or revenge versus more intangible aims?

If the behavior is deliberate in that the deception that has been planned and executed in a deliberate way in order to mislead other people, we would call that factitious disorder in most cases, or Munchausen syndrome. It used to be thought that all cases of Munchausen syndrome involved false illness claims. But in the most recent iteration of the DSM-5, they specify that people can feign illness, injury, or impairment. So, for example, there have been individuals who have faked being drug addicts because it has a certain cachet in certain communities like the rock music community, where you’re viewed as triumphant if you’ve been able to turn your back on such an addiction that in fact really didn’t even occur in your life. Malingering is the term we use when a person does it for tangible reasons like disability payments or opioid medications. And the two can coexist. With Smollett, there was at least the scuttlebutt originally that he was perhaps trying to ensure his continuing on Empire by presenting himself as a severe victim in another context, because it would be hard for the producers to let him go. And that would be malingering, if he sought to preserve his income, for instance. But if he also did it or did it exclusively for emotional reasons, we would call it Munchausen syndrome or factitious disorder.

Is Munchausen syndrome a mental illness that someone could claim in court, like as part of a “not guilty by reason of insanity” defense?

Yes. I don’t know of cases where that defense has succeeded, but the defense can be raised because it is an official psychiatric diagnosis. The American Psychiatric Association has recognized factitious disorder since 1980 and it has actually expanded [the] terms of its definition.

You mentioned something called factitious heroism, can you tell me how that may be relevant here?

It’s the correlate to factitious victimization, and we often see elements of both. Jussie has been clear about his own victimization, but at the same time his heroism, and talking about how the attackers ran away and not him, because he fought back. So he’s touting his own heroism at the same time he’s proclaiming his own victimization. You see that in the choice of cancer as an illness to be feigned in Munchausen syndrome, because we often think of people who have moved on from cancer as survivors and fighters, which is admired by society.

Presuming he did create this alleged hoax because he wanted some sort of attention or sympathy, what’s the kind of psychological profile you’d expect to see?

It would be very unusual to have someone who has good social and verbal skills and is successful to engage in factitious victimization. What we usually see in these cases is a personality disorder, which is that the individual has long-term problematic ways of trying to get emotional needs met and so they resort to the victim status as a way to almost instantly get what they feel unable to get by asking for [it] in a straightforward way. We tend to see a lot of people with borderline personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder, and we don’t know all the reasons people develop those, but the Munchausen patients I’ve talked to often talk about emotional neglect as they are growing up, and as they got older their need to pretend to be ill to get attention grew more acute. They may have discovered that in childhood they only got authentic care when they were sick.

Were there things about this case that felt either typical or unusual to you in terms of a case of factitious disorder?

What’s atypical is Smollett’s success in life. Most of these individuals are not achievers, they don’t have many obvious talents, and the factitious victimization is an act of desperation, in essence a cry for help.

Can you think of any other cases where there’s been an alleged hoax of this sort with such a high-profile individual?

Not really. [If these allegations are true,] this case stands out in that respect. Does Mr. Smollett have this bottomless pit of need for attention, is there something about his personality structure that makes that the case? I don’t know, I would relish the opportunity to meet with him and talk with him about it.

If this does turn out to be a hoax, it would seem to set a terrible precedent that will make future victims of real hate crimes less likely to be believed.

I do think the residual effect of the Smollett claim is that we’ll be overeager to consider a claim might be false, and the right-wing advocates will make a big deal out of this; I saw one of the Trump boys has already posted. It’s a broad sociological and cultural concern. It is isn’t damage-free when someone invents a widely acknowledged hoax.
 
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does all this make you even MORE cynical?

and does this make you a little MORE forgiving, with SOLID proof of the levels of STUPID apparently RESPONSIBLE people can descend too that maybe when people make the I didn't know excuse...

they aren't just racist or sexist....

they REALLY are JUST that stupid??
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It makes me more cynical of a person's testimony before due process.

This selfish piece of shit could have gotten a lot of people physically hurt ON TOP of the countless of people he will hurt in the future because thanks to his stunt people who will be the true victims of hate crimes will have to - thanks to reinforced skepticism- wait longer for justice.

His stunt gives me pause. Just like the #metoo witch hunt movement has given me pause as it relates to sexual harassment accusations.

As it relates to stupidity- being stupid transcends race, gender, education, and social status.

You walk into ANY ROOM -be it lock up or a boardroom - you're going to run a person who is FUCKING STUPID and if given the chance will fuck everything up not only for them but everyone else.

Being around a stupid person is like being on borrowed time because stupid people are unpredictable.

Avoid them at all cost.

I'm glad he was outed as a STUPID MOTHERFUCKER.

He should be avoided at all cost. He is DANGEROUS.

*two cents*
 
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They're still talking about we should still just believe people lol

No


We should treat every claim seriously and fully investigate it

Just like this case

Cause if it were true we'd found the maga guys they'd be in jail

But it's not so we found out the truth

That's all that matters
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And there is people out there like this who refuse to use logic and common sense that the story sounded fishy from the beginning, from Jussie end
 
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dade305 said:
And there is people out there like this who refuse to use logic and common sense that the story sounded fishy from the beginning, from Jussie end
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Motherfuckas are so damn stupid! Knew the classic "you guys are homophobic because.." BS would creep it's way in this situation eventually.

So let's get this right....the evidence is stacking against him and that means that we are scared of fags because of that?
 
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Motherfuckas are so damn stupid! Knew the classic homophobia would creep it's way in eventually.

So let's get this right....the evidence is stacking against him and that means that we are scared of fags because of that?
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He thought he could get away with it cause he's gay
And found out that he's actually black first

Others will find out soon
You a black person
That have 0 fucks over who you fuck
Act accordingly
 
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Ultimate piece of shit.

Let just see if he owns up to this and be honest on his intentions. It may not change much of public perception, but it’ll be nobal for himself.
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There's no nobility to take advantage of the racial climate preying on all the dog whistles
Maga
White
Rope around his neck?

Honestly there's nothing he can say to redeem himself if he in fact lied about it.
 

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