BREAKING: INVESTIGATION ENDS, AG BARR HAS MUELLERS REPORT .... an impending twitter fest now looms
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I know what they are saying and 100% of it is bullshit propaganda
And to use their own tactics against them.
This will leak
Full fuckery on display
Judge Nap.. continues to be one of the few people over there... that looks at shit rationally...
I also believe that its probably about 700 pages long..
But yeah ...Repubs are jumping way in to soon with this..
Cause there is something on the Obstruction and it was bad enough for Mueller to say that.. I'm not going to make a conclusion on this... even though he was willing to make a conclusion on the Conclusion aspect.
Now it is going to Barr that will have to answer as to why he decided that there wasn't enough for Obstruction...
If this shit was 700 pages... there is no FUCKING WAY!!! Dude and his staff would have been able to completely read through that summary in less then 48 hours.
This is what I think happened with Mueller
Mueller followed his mandate to the law. DOJ rules are that you can't indict a sitting president. So Mueller was not going to "recommend" indictment. Constitutionally, and based on the limitations of SC rules and regulations, he couldn't anyway. That could only come from the AG and it's even in doubt if he could do that himself. However, impeachment is a political process. So you put the report to Congress and they decide if impeachment happens. That's what his mandate was. Barr, like he did in his confirmation hearing, alluded to the fact that it will get released with only executive privilege based redactions. Barr is literally Mueller's boss so Mueller can only take him at his word. If Mueller does anything outside of protocol, he's legally liable for it. Otherwise, he becomes a "whistleblower" if breaks protocol.
He can only count on Barr breaking the law and somehow being outed in some way. Mueller can't go outside of it. He follows the law. That's been his entire reputation for decades as someone who strictly follows protocols. That's why I also think that before he moved up the chain to indict more people outside of Stone, Barr made him present hard evidence that he has sufficient evidence to personally indict someone else. If Mueller wasn't ready at that point yet, Barr could force him to shut it down. "You've had enough time, if there is no more evidence, wrap this up". Quite literally, if he forces people like Flynn to break their cooperation agreements, it's over because Mueller would need them to indict anyone else higher up the food chain. And it leaked out of the DOJ that this is exactly what Barr did. He asked Mueller why was Flynn still being forced to cooperate? Mueller didn't have a definite charge that was worked out yet (beyond what he was already charged) so Barr forced him to allow Flynn to break his cooperation agreement (and others). So he shut it down and made it clear that Mueller had to stay within his strict mandate and that a SC wasn't really able to make recommendations (which was always theorized to some extent). Mueller complied.
Mueller is not going to leak anything. He's not going to speak to Congress because Barr isn't going to allow it. He was never a superman. He was someone who could eventually destroy Trump had he had enough time to continue to pursue it. Barr being confirmed was the omen that it wasn't going to happen
With that being said, I would bet that he's handed off enough to various prosecutors (like SDNY for instance), that Trump is probably on borrowed time anyway. Barr is fine with that.
If Trump goes to jail after he's out of office, Barr is fine. He's not protecting Trump as much as he's protecting the GOP. He's "The Wolf" for the entire GOP. Trump is just the most immediate beneficiary.
Right now, Barr isn't even worried about Mueller. He's probably trying to shut down the other investigations that Mueller handed off. As AG he has the power to control other federal offices in various ways. He's probably working on some of the less powerful federal offices. He won't be able to control SDNY because the U.S. Attorney working that office had to recuse himself from Trump-related investigations.
Quite literally, the only thing that can expose this is mounting political pressure.
And I think that's why the GOP is going after Healthcare right now. They want that to be the topic even at the risk of that making the election more competitive (and it will because it's a top issue for everyone), but they want the public to move on from the Mueller Report because 90% of the population wanted it disclosed
Their attacks on the ACA is a pump fake to get the Dems to chase a different carrot so that the media moves on from the Mueller Report.
What's crazy in this video is how he repeated the 700 number like 5-6 times. So he got that from a VERY reliable source. And he also knows the document count on all the evidence. Barr has the power to hide this report, but if ANYTHING incriminating gets leaked, the outcry will be so swift he'll be forced to put it all out, unredacted.
yo @fonzerrillii He's not guessing. He has a source in the J.D. that's informed him of that count.
Colin this post breh
Judge Nap correct on the 700 pages
There is definitely some shit in that Report regarding obstruction.... and it think it's more then just the Firing of Comey. He had some non-public actions that rose enough to the level that Mueller legit wasn't willing to make the ultimate decision on Obstruction..
I also think there is more to the Collusion aspect... Because Bar repeatedly said Collusion with the Russian Government..... limited to Coordination being a tacit or implied agreement between two parties. There is a reason why he went with that definition limited to the Russian Government.
Yep. Defining collusion that narrowly was a dead giveaway.
But what’s the reason he went with that? For those who don’t speak legalese that shit sounds like some gray area bs and open for interpretation
We know there was coordination between the Campaign and Wikileaks...
My take is that Mueller didn't classify Wikileaks as an agent of a Foreign Government....
Since his mandate... Was limited to Actions by a Foreign power to influence the 2016 election.. He would have excluded contacts with Wikileaks as a coordinated action.
I came to this Conclusion based on Roger Stone's indictment... The Special Counsel indicted Stone for lying about talking to Wikileaks and obstructing the investigation... but he didn't indict him for actually talking to Wikileaks.
I think this is the same thing about the Russia Meeting...... It all comes down to how Mueller framed Government power.
BUT... In the court of public opinion..
The Campaigns involvement with Wikileaks and the True nature of the Russia Meeting..
Or Huge points of interest..
No doubt
I been watching the media the past few days and they are starting to come around to see Barr and his summary was straight up bs and they are starting to call it out
It is Gray area BS...
This is what the Special Counsel was set up to look at : Quoting Barr's letter
"The report explains that the Special Counsel and his staff thoroughly investigated allegations that members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump, and others associated with it, conspired with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, or sought to obstruct the related federal investigations."
"The report further explains that a primary consideration for the Special Counsel's investigation was whether any Americans – including individuals associated with the Trump campaign – joined the Russian conspiracies to influence the election, which would be a federal crime."
"The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election. As the report states: “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”1
" In assessing potential conspiracy charges, the Special Counsel also considered whether members of the Trump campaign “coordinated” with Russian election interference activities. The Special Counsel defined “coordination” as an “agreement—tacit or express—between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference.”
- This is what Mueller Team was set up to look at.. RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE.. and any related crimes..
That's it.. When it came to Trump and his people he was limited to finding if the Russian Government and it's agents were directly working with Trump and his agents..
That's why the Cohen stuff was bumped to the SDNY... "It didn't follow the mandate"
So to find Coordination "under his limited definition of coordination"... Trump and his Campaign would have had to be found to working under an implied or tacit agreement with the Russian Government in an attempt to influence the government.
--- Wikileaks and any other individuals that were Russian.. but not representing the Russian Government... would not fall under the mandate..
It's not illegal for trump to talk to Wikileaks and coordinate the dropping of the emails.. and there isn't an obvious link to show that Wikileaks is an agent of Russia..
Same as the Russian Meeting... None of those people held themselves out as Agents of the Russia Government..
---------- But that doesn't mean that it didn't happen... I actually think from my reading that the summary implies that something did happen.. but we don't consider it contact with THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT..
Barr's summary could have easily said.... Broadly...
"The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with outside individuals in an effort to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election."
or
"As noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate conspired or coordinated with the IRA in its efforts, although the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian nationals and entities in connection with these activities."
-- Notice the importance of the word "knowingly".. I took it out here.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/24/us/politics/barr-letter-mueller-report.html
Yooooo Barr fucked up royally.. he mad this shit worse ...
He’s always been a gop clean up man and came back on the scene on some “this how I did shit back in the day” not realizing THIS AINT BACK IN THE DAY
Yooooo Barr fucked up royally.. he mad this shit worse ...
He’s always been a gop clean up man and came back on the scene on some “this how I did shit back in the day” not realizing THIS AINT BACK IN THE DAY
Funny..that's what I was thinking earlier today.... like back in the 80s, it was easy to do shit like this because there were only a few media outlets. You can easily suppress info. He's applying the same playbook and people like...naw buddy
Man he about to get flamed into oblivion lol
That’s the thing he didn’t Muellers report and he admitted he didn’t read it which he stated in his summary..