Brother of murdered Botham Jean hugs ex-police officer Amber Guyger

geechiedan

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I don’t have or follow a God or religion, so idk what exactly is the Christian thing to do or to not do.

What I do know is that consuming ourselves with hate, with no room for forgiveness, strictly based on “getting back at the white man”, seems to be the road folks want to take and trust me, I get it 100%, but where exactly does that lead us?

Is chopping off our noses to spite our face is the answer?

If we feel it is, that’s fine and you’re able to do as you please, but I’m curious as to what the long term effects of this mentality is.

Remember, whites are naturally devilish and destructive. That’s their nature. Do we abandon our nature to follow that and be like them so we can gain capital and finance?
seems pretty successful for white people:dunno::dunno:
 

killagram

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I don’t have or follow a God or religion, so idk what exactly is the Christian thing to do or to not do.

What I do know is that consuming ourselves with hate, with no room for forgiveness, strictly based on “getting back at the white man”, seems to be the road folks want to take and trust me, I get it 100%, but where exactly does that lead us?

Is chopping off our noses to spite our face is the answer?

If we feel it is, that’s fine and you’re able to do as you please, but I’m curious as to what the long term effects of this mentality is.

Remember, whites are naturally devilish and destructive. That’s their nature. Do we abandon our nature to follow that and be like them so we can gain capital and finance?

Kill or be killed.. eye for an eye...I'm with the ARABS...brah
 

killagram

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Thank God!!! Brah
 

xxxbishopxxx

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Where did you get this? If that was true you wouldn't be able to buy a gun or join the military at 18
Not true. They need young folks in the army so they can mold them easier. White folks have proven they rather have unlimited gun rights at the expense of common sense.
 

FJP

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So what exactly do we do?

Do we go against our very own nature of being warm, inviting, understanding, welcoming people, to remain hateful in a white ruled world?

How long can that last? What the pros and cons here?
What we do is demand the EXACT same justice and penalty that is rendered to us in those exact situations. The questions is how long can being loving last when we are hated? You can’t love your oppressor into loving you.
 

xxxbishopxxx

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Shaun King posted this dudes post. I thought it was pretty powerful

https://www.facebook.com/imamomarsu...4Ua2zxW7SiMb_w45yXQTQb7YaFk-I&fref=nf&__xts__

If you're going to amplify the grace of his brother, you must also amplify the outrage of his mother.

Firstly, Brandt Jean was 16 years old when his brother was murdered. He showed the nation yesterday what type of family he comes from. He tried to emulate the faith and forgiveness that his brother modeled for him. It's important to understand that that was the type of young man Botham was also. At his funeral last year, every testimony of him was similar. This should make it all the more tragic. An 18 year old shouldn't have to be burdened with that type of moral responsibility. I'm proud of him but don't want to see a teenage boy put in that situation again.

Secondly, the way Brandt's grace is being exploited to silence his family and all that are calling for police reform is dishonest and disgusting. "His family forgave her so why can't you" is deliberate ignorance. Botham's mother Allison spoke minutes after Brandt saying that while officer Guyger had 10 years to reflect on her actions (likely much less with parole), those of us in Dallas need to fight the blatant corruption in the police department and system here. There were many mothers standing beside her yesterday whose children were murdered without even getting a trial.

Grace and accountability are not in contradiction.

Officer Mike Mata and Martin Rivera need to step down and be investigated immediately for their corruption. We need to continue to push for consistent standards. We all know what would've happened if Botham was the one who walked into Amber's apartment and murdered her without even trying to revive her, then tried to cover it up. We would be looking at the death penalty right now. Is calling for consistent standards really that radical? For officers to not be able to turn off their body cams when they feel like it, delete incriminating evidence which shows their racist past, or not be pampered by the system that allows them to operate without accountability in the first place? I haven't even started with the thousands of people in prison for longer than what Guyger got for committing non-violent crime, many of which are questionable in the first place.

I've said from the very start we should center the family, and broaden the discussion on policing. I personally am forever indebted to the Jean family for what they brought to Dallas. Botham's mom brought attention to the ugliness of the corruption of the city, and consistently tried to uplift the mothers of other victims who didn't get the attention her son got.

I will never forget these words from her and hope they reverberate through our souls since we suddenly love the family so much after witnessing Brandt show such grace yesterday:

"When you lose a child, you feel the labor pains in your womb again."

I'm sorry you've experienced so much pain Momma Jean. Your son's life clearly meant something to many people. So too will his death God willing.
 

DJCandle

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What we do is demand the EXACT same justice and penalty that is rendered to us in those exact situations.

So essentially, this is asking a white system (which is what we all live in) for equality. Is that right? How’s that going?

The questions is how long can being loving last when we are hated? You can’t love your oppressor into loving you.

I don’t think loving an oppressor is the goal is it? Forgiveness isn’t exclusively for the person you’re forgiving. Many times, it’s to heal our own pain. What benefits comes with carrying the burden of hate 24-7 cause you were done wrong? That’s what I’m trying to understand. Doesn’t have anything to do with loving the white man. At least it doesn’t for me.
 

deputy dawg

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Where did you get this? If that was true you wouldn't be able to buy a gun or join the military at 18

Maybe that's why a lot of former soldiers have psych issues or commit suicide - making 18 y.o. killers has long lasting side-effects.

I don’t think loving an oppressor is the goal is it? Forgiveness isn’t exclusively for the person you’re forgiving. Many times, it’s to heal our own pain. What benefits comes with carrying the burden of hate 24-7 cause you were done wrong? That’s what I’m trying to understand. Doesn’t have anything to do with loving the white man. At least it doesn’t for me.

I heard Eddie Glaude say this morning that hugging & forgiving her may have been his release of the loos & pain.
Young dude was struggling with his words regarding his MURDERED brother, showing his inner jihad.
A better way to express "forgiveness" is in order.
Maybe; "I don't forgive you for what you did, but I refuse to carry the anger & hatred so I release all that I feel because of what you did to my brother and put that on YOU!"
 

slewdem100

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So what exactly do we do?

Do we go against our very own nature of being warm, inviting, understanding, welcoming people, to remain hateful in a white ruled world?

How long can that last? What the pros and cons here?
We can be all of those things you described...what we shouldnt be is weak....fine line between nice, forgiving and weak...once you cross it you are in a whole bunch of shit....there is nothing hateful about not fucking with the person who murdered your brother and then tried to deny responsibilty....the same person he hugged is going to try to appeal the decision in a day or so....how about he honor his brother by not hugging the person who killed him....dude only been gone a year....WTF is up with this forgiveness bullshit that keeps popping up when a White person kills somebody who is Black?....I saw them asking the man's mother about that
 

FJP

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So essentially, this is asking a white system (which is what we all live in) for equality. Is that right? How’s that going?



I don’t think loving an oppressor is the goal is it? Forgiveness isn’t exclusively for the person you’re forgiving. Many times, it’s to heal our own pain. What benefits comes with carrying the burden of hate 24-7 cause you were done wrong? That’s what I’m trying to understand. Doesn’t have anything to do with loving the white man. At least it doesn’t for me.
Nah not asking a white. Demanding taking actions. You keep talking about 24/7 hate nah bruh 24/7 awareness. It has EVERYTHING to do with loving your oppressor. Forgiving an oppressor doesn’t heal you. Shit you saying sound ridiculous bruh. You don’t have to hate every white man to hate the system. What on earth does love for a system that does not love you do?
 

Gazoo

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Some forgiveness is necessary for us to move on after a tragedy. Especially if there is nothing that can be done about an injustice such as murder.

However, my forgiveness is about the situation so I can live without being crazy everyday.

Black people are always trying to show how Christian they are. Fuck that.

Trust me, if I ever get the chance to do my brother-in-law in, it's a done deal.
 

DJCandle

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Nah not asking a white. Demanding taking actions. You keep talking about 24/7 hate nah bruh 24/7 awareness. It has EVERYTHING to do with loving your oppressor. Forgiving an oppressor doesn’t heal you. Shit you saying sound ridiculous bruh.

But that’s exactly what you’re actions are showing. You’re showing out in hopes that a white ruled, white owned system, demonopolizes itself and comes to your rescue with fairness and justice because of how you feel.

You really think that’s gonna happen?

You don’t have to hate every white man to hate the system. What on earth does love for a system that does not love you do?

That’s exactly what I just asked you. It’s by them, for them, and will be for the foreseeable future, and without sheer acts of collective violence, there will not be a overthrow anywhere.

So what you gonna do? Live bitter? Or better?

Maybe bitter IS better for some.. idk. Just trying to understand the psyche.
 

DJCandle

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We can be all of those things you described...what we shouldnt be is weak....fine line between nice, forgiving and weak...once you cross it you are in a whole bunch of shit....there is nothing hateful about not fucking with the person who murdered your brother and then tried to deny responsibilty....the same person he hugged is going to try to appeal the decision in a day or so....how about he honor his brother by not hugging the person who killed him....dude only been gone a year....WTF is up with this forgiveness bullshit that keeps popping up when a White person kills somebody who is Black?....I saw them asking the man's mother about that

Let’s keep it 100.. we don’t forgive when we kill our own. We don’t give two shits, but we’re remorseful when it’s whites.

That’s a psychological issue that runs DEEPER than this case.
 

Dr. Truth

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He said he was speaking for himself, not his family. If he chooses to forgive then who am I to say that he's wrong. It's not something I would have done. Damn judge was even crying.
He’s wrong period fuck all that forgiveness shit. You forgive people for shit that allows a person to continue their life, she ended a life on purpose fuck that shit. Dude has no chance to come back she ended that she needs to die and his brother his a coon ass sambo fuck boy
 

slewdem100

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Let’s keep it 100.. we don’t forgive when we kill our own. We don’t give two shits, but we’re remorseful when it’s whites.

That’s a psychological issue that runs DEEPER than this case.
The psychological issue you are referring to is real...I am not going to say that forgiveness never happens when we kill our own though...what I will say is there is not this big forgiveness show when we kill our own...no "will she or won't she" forgiveness circus...I believe the young dude wanted to make a statement and he will regret doing it when he gets older
 

djpolo

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I'm not going to condemn the brother. We all handle stuff differently. I will say that this bitch admitted to the prosecution that she tried to kill him. How the fuck do you walk into the wrong apartment and not know its NOT yours? Then the racist MLK text. That bitch shoulda got LIFE! Forgiveness, perhaps but..
 

kidmegaii

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Fuck this she did us a favor, this soft ass weak ass family bloodline should be thinned and how dare the judge come off the bench to read Bible verses. Fuck all this shit....
 

pookie

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Religion turned niggas into docile coons. A way to control slaves. The judge hugged this bitch. The courtroom cop was brushing her hair now this? Nah b. Fuck every one of these white Jesus worshipping minstrels. The worst kind of Black folks. Always quick to forgive devil ass cacs

That’s exactly what it does. Softens the mind.

There was a black woman on my Facebook timeline talking that “god wants us to forgive” bullshit this morning. I started to cuss her ass out, I still for the life of me can’t understand how with everything black people have been through that they can believe in the Bible/God/Jesus/Christianity...smh
 

blaze

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The interesting thing here is that we not even thinking about how life goes. This chick is a cop. From all accounts a decent person. She wasn't a killer. I'm not sure, she might have even been a good cop - we need more of them. So she fucks up big time and kills a dude in his own apartment. That would have been bad enough, but she killed an unarmed dude. Worst of all, she killed a black man in today's environment and that just drove the shit over the top!
We as black people are used to cops getting away with this type of killing, but she gave us a gift by taking the stand and got convicted. Now, she's a cop going to jail. I've heard they don't really like cops in there. She's going for 10 years, which is not life, but it's a long time for a free person to lose that freedom. She will forever be a felon - which we have made a bleak prospect as a society. She'll always be known to anyone who doesn't live under a rock and the ex-cop that shot a black dude in his own apartment. And if she really is a descent person, she will always carry with her the fact that she took an innocent life. That's alot.
My question is, what good will it bring to the world to continue to hate her. Forget Christianity, Buddhism or whatever, just in your life, holding onto hate is not productive to your fucking spirit. You hating somebody that doesn't know you're alive and has much bigger problems than the way YOU feel about her. She's going to jail and her life will never be the same. Hating her hurts you way more than it could hurt her.
 
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