Cory Holcomb - "Dave Chappelle is overrated"

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Not every sound is music. Dave’s body of work is like an encyclopedia and Corey’s is a poorly edited Wikipedia page.

To me, a comedian is a djeli that highlights the absurdity of the people who pays his salary. A joke teller is a jester — someone to have beheaded if the wine is lackluster.

 

[Costanza]

Huh?

Con air?

Screwed?

Undercover brother?

Nutty professor?

U crazy

Supporting roles. Did you not see me say Blue Streak is not a Chappelle movie by my standard? You can’t compare those to his stand up.

Bad comp. NBA players sign guaranteed deals based largely on projection, expectation and resources already invested. Comedians sign deals based on actual revenue they produce and fan/consumer reception. Also, Chappelle is soundly viewed as being in a very short list and conversation of the best to ever do it in his vocation.

I don’t see how Chappelle’s Netflix deal is any different from a veteran basketball player’s deal. Both are projections based on past performance and assessments of future potential.

 

[jack walsh13]

Dave is a comedian

Cory is a Podcaster..

let start there.....lol

 

[dasailr03]

man I can't believe any listen to cory. he's a troll plain and simple. he started in the comedy lane but spends all his time & energy talking shit about everyone else. here is an idea.. tell jokes, be funny and tell jokes and be funny. there is a reason why he has a podcast.. because he ain't & can't tell jokes to anyone but he can talk shit in his basement podcast. Fuck cory Hating ass and anyone who fucks with that clown.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

man I can't believe any listen to cory. he's a troll plain and simple. he started in the comedy lane but spends all his time & energy talking shit about everyone else. here is an idea.. tell jokes, be funny and tell jokes and be funny. there is a reason why he has a podcast.. because he ain't & can't tell jokes to anyone but he can talk shit in his basement podcast. Fuck cory Hating ass and anyone who fucks with that clown.

Corey is just a shit talker. Not the same as a comedian. Shit talkers can be funny, but they aint joke tellers. Corey found a lane doing what he does best. But yeah, I can't listen to him cause his shit is always negative. Funny at times, but not enough to sit through his show routinely.

 

[PsiBorg]

Cory is a Patrice O'Neal wanna be, only he's horrible at it. He's the Stephen A. Smith of comedy.

 

[SWATLANTA]

Cory is a Patrice O'Neal wanna be, only he's horrible at it. He's the Stephen A. Smith of comedy.

This is true, the difference is that Patrice was extremely bright...

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Supporting roles. Did you not see me say Blue Streak is not a Chappelle movie by my standard? You can’t compare those to his stand up.



I don’t see how Chappelle’s Netflix deal is any different from a veteran basketball player’s deal. Both are projections based on past performance and assessments of future potential.

Dude

He doesn’t have any lead roles in movies like that

He’s not Jamie Foxx

But I gave you roles that will forever be remembered

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Supporting roles. Did you not see me say Blue Streak is not a Chappelle movie by my standard? You can’t compare those to his stand up.



I don’t see how Chappelle’s Netflix deal is any different from a veteran basketball player’s deal. Both are projections based on past performance and assessments of future potential.

That last Kobe deal was most definitely the exception to amajors rule.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Then your opinion is shit.

I laugh way harder at Corey.

I keep remembering buddy love throw Dave in that piano

LMAOOOOOO

Im thinking about that shit now

HE COULDNT EVEN COMPETE with Eddie in that movie in terms of jokes within their dialog

“Give the lil nigga a chance”

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Cory is a Patrice O'Neal wanna be, only he's horrible at it. He's the Stephen A. Smith of comedy.

This is true, the difference is that Patrice was extremely bright...

Corey didn’t coon it up with opie and Jon and Anthony Cumina on their show

Corey woulda slap the shit out them crackas

I LOVE Patrice a lot by the way. He fought for our free speech rights

 

[Costanza]

Dude

He doesn’t have any lead roles in movies like that

He’s not Jamie Foxx

But I gave you roles that will forever be remembered

I mentioned Half Baked twice

Putting your Gen Z ass on ignore for a while.

 

[Temujin]

It's all subjective and only a matter of opinion or preference but calling someone like Corey one of the greats when he's never been able to put out a successful or well received special and base this solely off of club shows doesn't hold up IMO.

He doesn't have a resume to go against decades of comedians who've been far more prolific and well received. And Corey has a few comedy specials which were released (one by Kevin Hart on Showtime) but just weren't that good to be honest.

Also Corey claiming Dave's success has come in movies and TV instead of comedy is laughable since the only movie he's been the lead in that has had any success would be Half Baked. Other than that he has very few acting credits aside from bit parts.

And he's had even less success with TV with the Chappelle Show being the exception but 2 seasons of a comedy show that hasn't aired in over 20 years wouldn't explain the success he's had in comedy since returning.

It is subjective. And subjecively I have seen him perform and I consider him one of the greatest stand up comedians I have seen. Period. I have seen most of Dave's specials and I've seen him live. I wasn't impressed. So if Dave is one of the Greats than Corey is one of the greats. And it's 100% because of the Chapelle show Dave is hot now. Come on it was a cultural phenomenon. NOBODY was checking for Dave Chapelle stand-up before the Chapelle show and he did all the shows he was just mid. Let's be honest. He did Def Jam and was OK. After the Chapelle show and his hiatus he had all the momentum in the world to rebrand himself this edgy tell the world the truth comic. Before that he was a regular black comic who could code switch and rock white crowds. That Code switching is why he Chris Rock and Kevin Hart have a good career.

His whole credibility with the Black community today is because of the Chapelle show and the hip hop artist he put on. Dave was never funny like black people funny until the chapelle show.

 

[older version]

Is it safe to start calling Cory an edge lord?

Corey is a Patrice Oneal copycat in that regard.

 

[SWATLANTA]

Corey didn’t coon it up with opie and Jon and Anthony Cumina on their show

Corey woulda slap the shit out them crackas

I LOVE Patrice a lot by the way. He fought for our free speech rights

Corey wouldn't have slapped nobody, he was cooning it up on Jerry Springer...

 

[Amajorfucup]

I don’t see how Chappelle’s Netflix deal is any different from a veteran basketball player’s deal. Both are projections based on past performance and assessments of future potential.

Its very different. Chappelle got a series of one for one deals based on real time performance. Pro vets get long term guaranteed deals on projections. If Dave starts to tank and no one tunes in to his specials or buys tickets the deals stop. Embiid will get every penny he signs for whether he plays, performs, or people show up or not. Again, bad comp.

It is subjective. And subjecively I have seen him perform and I consider him one of the greatest stand up comedians I have seen. Period. I have seen most of Dave's specials and I've seen him live. I wasn't impressed. So if Dave is one of the Greats than Corey is one of the greats. And it's 100% because of the Chapelle show Dave is hot now.

Literally everything you said was just flat out wrong. Daves current success has absolutely ZERO to with TCS and everything to do with his current social relevance and specials which sellout in minutes of being announced. And by no objective metric is Corey remotely in his class. Not one. Saying its "subjective" is head in the sand nonsense to support a completely nonsensical opinion.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

I mentioned Half Baked twice

Putting your Gen Z ass on ignore for a while.

Bro ONLY HALF BAKED WAS HE THE MARKETED STAR AND WE ARGUING ABOUT ROLES

Stfu thinking Dave is a well Hollywood start or sought after star. He’s a fucking comic

And I’m Y you gen X piece of shit

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Corey wouldn't have slapped nobody, he was cooning it up on Jerry Springer...

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

This is all acting

Being on a satellite radio show with racists anthony Cumina who ISNT acting is cooning.

Haha and kee kee’n with anthony and opie?

Zero comparison

 

[shaddyvillethug]

It is subjective. And subjecively I have seen him perform and I consider him one of the greatest stand up comedians I have seen. Period. I have seen most of Dave's specials and I've seen him live. I wasn't impressed. So if Dave is one of the Greats than Corey is one of the greats. And it's 100% because of the Chapelle show Dave is hot now. Come on it was a cultural phenomenon. NOBODY was checking for Dave Chapelle stand-up before the Chapelle show and he did all the shows he was just mid. Let's be honest. He did Def Jam and was OK. After the Chapelle show and his hiatus he had all the momentum in the world to rebrand himself this edgy tell the world the truth comic. Before that he was a regular black comic who could code switch and rock white crowds. That Code switching is why he Chris Rock and Kevin Hart have a good career.

His whole credibility with the Black community today is because of the Chapelle show and the hip hop artist he put on. Dave was never funny like black people funny until the chapelle show.

Bro he had to use the word nigga to make his shit funny

And his best skit on that show was taken over by WAYNE FUCKING BRADY WHO DID IT WAY BETTER THAN HIM.

“dave hoes, hoes dave”

 

[REDLINE]

It is subjective. And subjecively I have seen him perform and I consider him one of the greatest stand up comedians I have seen. Period. I have seen most of Dave's specials and I've seen him live. I wasn't impressed. So if Dave is one of the Greats than Corey is one of the greats. And it's 100% because of the Chapelle show Dave is hot now. Come on it was a cultural phenomenon. NOBODY was checking for Dave Chapelle stand-up before the Chapelle show and he did all the shows he was just mid. Let's be honest. He did Def Jam and was OK. After the Chapelle show and his hiatus he had all the momentum in the world to rebrand himself this edgy tell the world the truth comic. Before that he was a regular black comic who could code switch and rock white crowds. That Code switching is why he Chris Rock and Kevin Hart have a good career.

His whole credibility with the Black community today is because of the Chapelle show and the hip hop artist he put on. Dave was never funny like black people funny until the chapelle show.

Literally everything you said was just flat out wrong. Daves current success has absolutely ZERO to with TCS and everything to do with his current social relevance and specials which sellout in minutes of being announced. And by no objective metric is Corey remotely in his class. Not one. Saying it's "subjective" is head in the sand nonsense to support a completely nonsensical opinion.

@Temujin actually had a pretty good breakdown about Chappelle. He was incorrect when he said that "NOBODY" was checking for Dave's stand-up before the Chapelle Show.

Dave had a few HBO specials, shot more than 10 pilots for tv shows so he was definitely popular on standup and Hollywood as shown by his stand-up specials and attempts at getting him shows.

He's right about Black people as a whole weren't really checking for him before TCS, that show put him into Black households who didn't know who he was and made him popular.

Dave's current success was launched by TCS. His exit from the show and hiatus made him even more popular. So when he came back he was in much more demand and his specials highly anticipated.

 

[tallblacknyc]

It is subjective. And subjecively I have seen him perform and I consider him one of the greatest stand up comedians I have seen. Period. I have seen most of Dave's specials and I've seen him live. I wasn't impressed. So if Dave is one of the Greats than Corey is one of the greats. And it's 100% because of the Chapelle show Dave is hot now. Come on it was a cultural phenomenon. NOBODY was checking for Dave Chapelle stand-up before the Chapelle show and he did all the shows he was just mid. Let's be honest. He did Def Jam and was OK. After the Chapelle show and his hiatus he had all the momentum in the world to rebrand himself this edgy tell the world the truth comic. Before that he was a regular black comic who could code switch and rock white crowds. That Code switching is why he Chris Rock and Kevin Hart have a good career.

His whole credibility with the Black community today is because of the Chapelle show and the hip hop artist he put on. Dave was never funny like black people funny until the chapelle show.

He’s appeal to a white audience got him that Dave Chappell show deal.. b4 that how many black comedians were getting mad burn on Comedy Central? Prior to that show he had various hbo standups on it.. him and Chris rock were hbo 2 main black featured comedians on their station.. he made half baked, was a co-star in the movie screwed, appeared in Robin Hood, con air, blue streak.. also did various pilots for tv shows and failed first season shows… he was getting that white boy money and than Chappell show gave him street credit.. but know he still had cacs watching chapelle show also.. so just cause he wasn’t getting most of his money and fame amongst a black demographic dosent mean he wasn’t getting money or being recognized with other demographics.. there’s a lot of music , tv, movies that’s not catered to us that still make shitloads of money dealing with other audiences.. trust Holcomb wish he could tapped into them groups cause if he did I bet he wouldn’t complain .. he featured in 2 Kevin hart films, been in various shaq comedy specials and did something on showtime as far as a standup.. he’s had opportunities to shine but for whatever reason wasn’t marketable enough to certain demographics and that’s why he doing podcast and smaller comedy tours

 

[ghoststrike]

All good, we all have our moments.

Just remember to take it easy in me if/when I play myself when responding to one of your posts that I misunderstood

It's happened to me sometimes, when I was being sarcastic. I know the the feeling

 

[code_pirahna]

Typical hating ass Cory shit. And of course he had to insinuate Dave is gay. Cause that's what he says about everybody in a better position than him. Starts from the beginning pretty much

Cory has lost so much credibility.....

Talk about falling off

 

[code_pirahna]

Until Cory can put out something as good as Killing Me Softly he shouldnt even comment on Chappelle

 

[dasailr03]

NOBODY was checking for Dave Chapelle stand-up before the Chapelle show and he did all the shows he was just mid. Let's be honest. He did Def Jam and was OK. After the Chapelle show and his hiatus he had all the momentum in the world to rebrand himself this edgy tell the world the truth comic. Before that he was a regular black comic who could code switch and rock white crowds. That Code switching is why he Chris Rock and Kevin Hart have a good career.

His whole credibility with the Black community today is because of the Chapelle show and the hip hop artist he put on. Dave was never funny like black people funny until the chapelle show.

co-sign!!

 

[keone]

What a lot of people forget is Dave was known to both black and whites. Nobody knew his name he was the funny supporting character. He was in nutty professor and blue streak. Shit I called him Reggie for the longest lol.

His stand up killing me softly made him popular. By the time his show came on the rest was history.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Dave's current success was launched by TCS. His exit from the show and hiatus made him even more popular. So when he came back he was in much more demand and his specials highly anticipated.

No this is wrong. His current success was launched by the reception of the specials upon his return and his continued popularity due to the quality of the product hes been producing. Nobody is paying this guy $100s of million and selling out his shows merely because he had a sketch show 20 years ago. His "return" was dam near ten years ago and hes still hot as fish grease. This shit has zero to do with TCS.

 

[keone]

Hollywood is really rough on black actor specially black comedians. They dont know what to do with them.

When Tony Rock said that shit last year about Chris Rock it made me think. As big as Chris Rock is he never really thad those blockbusters like Eddie or Martin. I dont think he had the pull to put people in his movies. Shit will Smith put Tony in one of his movies and he still got cut.

So I can see why people like Dave, Kevin, aries etc. Were struggling.
They all got holding deals and were getting paid tho.

 

[REDLINE]

No this is wrong. His current success was launched by the reception of the specials upon his return and his continued popularity due to the quality of the product hes been producing. Nobody is paying this guy $100s of million and selling out his shows merely because he had a sketch show 20 years ago. His "return" was dam near ten years ago and hes still hot as fish grease. This shit has zero to do with TCS.

No you're wrong. If you reread what I wrote, I stated that Dave's current success was "Launched" by TCS.

Before the Netflix specials were signed and launched in 2017, his last special was in 2004.

Nobody was throwing tens of millions of dollars at Dave for another special after that special was aired in 2004.

Dave had TCS from 2004-2006, that's when his popularity exploded "Due to the show".

In 20016, Netflix agreed to pay him 20 million dollars per special due to his talent and popularity that was "Launched, from The Chapelle Show.

 

[Amajorfucup]

No you're wrong. If you reread what I wrote, I stated that Dave's current success was "Launched" by TCS.

And thats still wrong my man. No matter how many times you state it. The current success is a direct result of the reception to the work. This was launched by the quality of his initial return special. I get what you're saying but you simply cannot credit a show from 20 years ago for the level of sustained dominance we see up until today. The current success has zero to do with the show and everything to do with the work product he creates with each opportunity.

Again, I get what you're saying but i just think you're wrong. At best, we will agree that thee was interest from corporate partners due to his prior success with TCS. But him making rounds and doing material in clubs, working the circuit and the reception and interest he continued to build is what ultimately made Netflix give him the deal.. and after that it was due to the actual work itself and consumer response.

 

[bgbtylvr]

He’s a troll, a coonish troll. He’s funny; no one can deny that. Corey is the loudest bitch on those housewives of (inset city) shows. Dave coons as well, but on a different level. Dave was never hood, so his perspectives are clever, not so in-your-face like the loud ass Def Jam, BET comedians. Corey is banking on controversy, literally and figuratively.

 

[Stop these faggits!]

What a lot of people forget is Dave was known to both black and whites. Nobody knew his name he was the funny supporting character. He was in nutty professor and blue streak. Shit I called him Reggie for the longest lol.

His stand up killing me softly made him popular. By the time his show came on the rest was history.

Hes paid his dues he's been in comedy since he was 12 years old . He's done everything from star search to def comedy jam just like corey so he should pay some respect and stop being a bitter ass nigga on a podcast talking about being a real nigga.

 

[REDLINE]

And thats still wrong my man. No matter how many times you state it. The current success is a direct result of the reception to the work. This was launched by the quality of his initial return special. I get what you're saying but you simply cannot credit a show from 20 years ago for the level of sustained dominance we see up until today. The current success has zero to do with the show and everything to do with the work product he creates with each opportunity.

Again, I get what you're saying but i just think you're wrong. At best, we will agree that thee was interest from corporate partners due to his prior success with TCS. But him making rounds and doing material in clubs, working the circuit and the reception and interest he continued to build is what ultimately made Netflix give him the deal.. and after that it was due to the actual work itself and consumer response.

The interest was from TCS. The interest wasn't from his comedy special which aired in 2004.

His comedy special in 2004 didn't get him 20 million dollars to do a comedy special in 2017.

TCS popularity, his exit even after being offered 50 million dollars to shoot another season is what led to him getting 20 million dollar Netflix show deals.

TCS is what put him the position to be offered a 20 million a show deal.

TCS is how most know of Dave Chapelle. So to say that's not the reason for his current or the reason for the Netflix deal, is lying at best.

Netflix didn't care about him doing the rounds or working a circuit. They knew about his past success and wanted to cash in. They knew that he had the public's interest due to his story, his history, his prior success with TCS and threw him the money because of it.

But if you believe it's all because of his last stand-up special in 2004, and because he touted the circuit.

Then cool.

 

[Walter Panov]

Corey is funnier stand up than Dave by far in my opinion. I've seen Corey perform at least 4 or 5 times and every time he rocked a tough Philly crowd. All Daves standups have been chuckle worthy but not straight up hillarious. Dave is much much better on TV. The chapelle show was 10 times funnier than any standup dave has ever done.

I think when people are comparing Chapelle to holcolmb they are talking comedic talent in General and in General daves TV sketch abilities surpass Corey's standup but if we are talking pure Stand-up controlling a crowd and rocking a black audience. Corey one of the greats.

Yes. It's not remotely close. I don't even get a genuine chuckle out of Dave's standup. I have to force myself to laugh. He's got that cac nasally voice and predictable jokes you get from unfunny late-night hosts. His TV skits and movie roles are funny. That's it.

 

[World B Free]

Corey Holcomb is the Michael Jordan of Burning Bridges......