Deontay Wilder/Tyson Fury Official

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Ok, who is this and where is it from?
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I wish I fucking knew!

seen her in the redhead thread...no one can ID her tho
 

Mack1052

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Take out the whole team? I mean they got him far as hell in the sport even with his late start...whatever works....he needs to add something to his game though...not a complete overall as I think that will do more harm than good...but he is too one dimensional now

Or add a new lead trainer at least. It's an indictment on his training (or lack of it) that he looks the same skill wise from 6 years ago
 

Naha-Nago

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Lennox is right.

He is.

An open secret in boxing is that you can't 'beat' the champ- you gotta kick his ass. It has to be decisive.

The fact that Wilder knocked Fury down twice- one in the final round- and when it came to the split decision everyone who doesn't pick up a check from Wilder was like "I don't know about that Champ..." says A LOT.

Fury was KICKING WILDER'S ASS and the crooked ass fucking judges two 10-8 round especially the one in the 12th saved his ass because...boxing.

*two cents*
 

Megatron X

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I remember when Chuck Liddell lost to Quinton Jackson and then kept losing I remember whites still backing him and giving him props. But, I noticed that niggaz were riding Deontay Wilder's dick feeling he was gonna win. But, as it as appears he was losing you see how backstabbing these niggaz were becoming. This is why I did not comment until the end of the fight. This fickle, backstabbing trait I see in niggaz never fails. They'll back up somebody black until it appears that negro is losing or has his back against the wall then you see these niggaz switch. I'm surprise these niggaz didn't get like that with Obama but wait a minute Obama didn't do shit for them that's why they cannot backstab him.
 

Mixd

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Facts and his head movement

Was baffling the fuck out of deontay..

But yo when deontay got that knock down I jumped out might chair and lost it.. It was moments like that that makes boxing one of my top three favorite past times..

The last time I did that was when busted douglas

Shocked the world...

This tyson dude robbed wilder of one of the greatest comebacks ever..

By getting up....
Both times he knocked him down I was jumping out my chair. But the first knockdown, was really a sucker punch, behind the head when Fury bobbed his head down, which was his fault anyways, but still was a behind the head hit.

Second knockdown, was deserved.

But see most people in fighting, you can determine what they were going to do by their gestures or mannerisms. But Fury was never doing the same thing. He would point his fist up, touch his face, jerk head twice. Then next two secs, hit his face, twitch head left, jerk head touch face.

It's like you never know wtf he was doing then, BAM, he just jabbed you in the face. Lol.

One of the greatest fights I've ever seen. Even though he got knocked down twice, and got up not even stunned. I'm screaming to my son, Deontay got this, and dude never followed up and finished him after he got up. He was acting like he wanted to invite him over for tea and crumpets.

After a knockdown, you should be on mode "finish him". But Deontay, just to me, in too many instances, dropped the ball. I saw so many opps when Fury face was wide open after a combination and Deontay did nothing. I was saying wtf so many times. Smh
 

exiledking

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I remember when Chuck Liddell lost to Quinton Jackson and then kept losing I remember whites still backing him and giving him props. But, I noticed that niggaz were riding Deontay Wilder's dick feeling he was gonna win. But, as it as appears he was losing you see how backstabbing these niggaz were becoming. This is why I did not comment until the end of the fight. This fickle, backstabbing trait I see in niggaz never fails. They'll back up somebody black until it appears that negro is losing or has his back against the wall then you see these niggaz switch. I'm surprise these niggaz didn't get like that with Obama but wait a minute Obama didn't do shit for them that's why they cannot backstab him.
Lol stfu.

People didnt do that to Andre Ward. Why? Because he's a solid dude and great boxer. There are too many great Black boxers to just be running around supporting someone just because they're Black. Being a Black boxer ain't even nothing special. We have actual SPECIAL FIGHTERS from our community, so no, ya don't get a pass just cuz you Black. Deontay had to show that he could make it happen. He was getting outclassed the whole fight by a gypsy Brit. You tell me when that's happened to Black Boxer last? Fucking Lewis/Schmelling I that's when. And Lewis came back and beat that ass the next fight.

Imagine Holmes getting schooled by Cooney like that. Ali getting touched up by Quarry. They would never hear the end of it.

No, Black people don't have to like a boxer just because hes Black. We have actual CHAMPIONS for decades to choose from.
 

nyeleman

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Its amazing the lens you americans view the boxing world compared to the rest of the world. That fight was a shambolic gallery. For one Wilder's has been shown to be Shelly Finkle's protected investment. I am hearing he took £4 million for this fight and yet he rejects £8 million???? And to top it all off he struggled against a weakened feather handed mancunian gypsy. One thing about Wilder is he has been brain washed by his protectors like Shelly Finkle and Dibella to go for a huge payday against Joshua and then cash out when he losses which they believe is very likely to happen. Outside of Ortiz and Fury who he both struggled against Wilder's cv's is full of overweight uber drivers with blood pressure problems. This is how Wilder has bamboozled you americans because he has had a steady flow of unknown fighters to give devastating knock outs to make him seem good. Its funny how Wilder's handlers were congratulating Fury and even shaking their head at Wilder before the result was announced. Wilder gets destroyed by any decent british heavyweight, Dereck Chisora, Daniel Dubois, Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua easily ghost this guy. Even Parker, Povetkin, Takam would give Wilder problems
 

Mrfreddygoodbud

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Its amazing the lens you americans view the boxing world compared to the rest of the world. That fight was a shambolic gallery. For one Wilder's has been shown to be Shelly Finkle's protected investment. I am hearing he took £4 million for this fight and yet he rejects £8 million???? And to top it all off he struggled against a weakened feather handed mancunian gypsy. One thing about Wilder is he has been brain washed by his protectors like Shelly Finkle and Dibella to go for a huge payday against Joshua and then cash out when he losses which they believe is very likely to happen. Outside of Ortiz and Fury who he both struggled against Wilder's cv's is full of overweight uber drivers with blood pressure problems. This is how Wilder has bamboozled you americans because he has had a steady flow of unknown fighters to give devastating knock outs to make him seem good. Its funny how Wilder's handlers were congratulating Fury and even shaking their head at Wilder before the result was announced. Wilder gets destroyed by any decent british heavyweight, Dereck Chisora, Daniel Dubois, Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua easily ghost this guy. Even Parker, Povetkin, Takam would give Wilder problems

my mans... you are WILIN WILIN WILIN…

Anthony Joshua wont last in the later rounds against fury or wilder..

how can you say we are brainwashed when deontay aint running from nobody..

but YO boy josh pussy footed on both these fighters...

Joshua got called on his bluff... when deontay said he would fight him IN England..

then Anthony Joshua did his mixtape remix....

and came up with some other shit...

where you from you know americans are the swaggiest..

dopest.. realest kniggas in the world

put some respek on our names...
 

LordSinister

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I only watched in sports and missed the knock downs but he was loosing to my eye. Fury wasn't whooping his ass, but he was racking up points and points matter.
 

Megatron X

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I think Wilder did good. I felt he was gonna put him away early in the fight but he did not. I feel he has the ability to put Fury away. He needs to train harder. Did Wilder underestimate Fury, he probably did.
 

nyeleman

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my mans... you are WILIN WILIN WILIN…

Anthony Joshua wont last in the later rounds against fury or wilder..

how can you say we are brainwashed when deontay aint running from nobody..

but YO boy josh pussy footed on both these fighters...

Joshua got called on his bluff... when deontay said he would fight him IN England..

then Anthony Joshua did his mixtape remix....

and came up with some other shit...

where you from you know americans are the swaggiest..

dopest.. realest kniggas in the world

put some respek on our names...

This is exactly what I mean.

Deontay ran from Klitschko and now we know why because Klitscho dropped him! Fury is a weakened guy who failed to knock out sefer seferi and pieneta. To give you context those two boxers are not even top 20 european boxers. Whyte dropped Fury in sparring and he never got up, Wilder dropped Fury and he came back like its nothing.

Wilder never called Joshua's bluff, he made a verbal contract via the internet and when asked to furnish the written contract he went on youtube to cry and ignored counter offers. Wilder claims to have 50 million and yet he is out here accepting 2 million dollar offers, that doesn't make sense.

You americans are deluded and live in the past when boxing was your forte. This is why you fail to wrap your mind around how Joshua is the world's biggest boxing star despite not need your help or fighting in america. Ask anyone that lives outside america how grid locked it gets when people scramble to see Joshua fight. Wilder is failing to sell out a small arena and failing to win over america's population whilst Joshua has europe and Africa on lock. Numbers don't lie ,you can gas Wilder all you want because he is not even top 5 in the heavy weight division. The minute he steps out of the Haymon bubble he will get his head knocked off clean.
 

slewdem100

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Or add a new lead trainer at least. It's an indictment on his training (or lack of it) that he looks the same skill wise from 6 years ago
1st fight with Stiverne, his jab looked much improved but Stiverne was a smaller man....in his fight with Gerald Washington (think it was Gerald) you could see the limitations of his jab as Gerald was out jabbing him....Gerald is 6'6....there is definitely room to take his jab up a notch but I wouldnt say there has been no improvement....I get what you are saying though
 

largebillsonlyplease

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This is exactly what I mean.

Deontay ran from Klitschko and now we know why because Klitscho dropped him! Fury is a weakened guy who failed to knock out sefer seferi and pieneta. To give you context those two boxers are not even top 20 european boxers. Whyte dropped Fury in sparring and he never got up, Wilder dropped Fury and he came back like its nothing.

Wilder never called Joshua's bluff, he made a verbal contract via the internet and when asked to furnish the written contract he went on youtube to cry and ignored counter offers. Wilder claims to have 50 million and yet he is out here accepting 2 million dollar offers, that doesn't make sense.

You americans are deluded and live in the past when boxing was your forte. This is why you fail to wrap your mind around how Joshua is the world's biggest boxing star despite not need your help or fighting in america. Ask anyone that lives outside america how grid locked it gets when people scramble to see Joshua fight. Wilder is failing to sell out a small arena and failing to win over america's population whilst Joshua has europe and Africa on lock. Numbers don't lie ,you can gas Wilder all you want because he is not even top 5 in the heavy weight division. The minute he steps out of the Haymon bubble he will get his head knocked off clean.

Lol
Awwww
 

meilmarc

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This is exactly what I mean.

Deontay ran from Klitschko and now we know why because Klitscho dropped him! Fury is a weakened guy who failed to knock out sefer seferi and pieneta. To give you context those two boxers are not even top 20 european boxers. Whyte dropped Fury in sparring and he never got up, Wilder dropped Fury and he came back like its nothing.

Wilder never called Joshua's bluff, he made a verbal contract via the internet and when asked to furnish the written contract he went on youtube to cry and ignored counter offers. Wilder claims to have 50 million and yet he is out here accepting 2 million dollar offers, that doesn't make sense.

You americans are deluded and live in the past when boxing was your forte. This is why you fail to wrap your mind around how Joshua is the world's biggest boxing star despite not need your help or fighting in america. Ask anyone that lives outside america how grid locked it gets when people scramble to see Joshua fight. Wilder is failing to sell out a small arena and failing to win over america's population whilst Joshua has europe and Africa on lock. Numbers don't lie ,you can gas Wilder all you want because he is not even top 5 in the heavy weight division. The minute he steps out of the Haymon bubble he will get his head knocked off clean.


You a damn clown, Haymon bubble plus not a top 5 heavyweight. A dude who was going to Russia to fight a top 5 heavyweight in Povetkin but his ass got popped on the juice. He fought Ortiz a top 5 skilled heavyweight and won. Then just fought the lineal champ in Fury. The only Haymon fight he fought recently was Ortiz. He called Joshua's bluff and agreed to travel overseas for like 12 or 15 million and they still didn't agree.
 

Rollie_Fingaz

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Its amazing the lens you americans view the boxing world compared to the rest of the world. That fight was a shambolic gallery. For one Wilder's has been shown to be Shelly Finkle's protected investment. I am hearing he took £4 million for this fight and yet he rejects £8 million???? And to top it all off he struggled against a weakened feather handed mancunian gypsy. One thing about Wilder is he has been brain washed by his protectors like Shelly Finkle and Dibella to go for a huge payday against Joshua and then cash out when he losses which they believe is very likely to happen. Outside of Ortiz and Fury who he both struggled against Wilder's cv's is full of overweight uber drivers with blood pressure problems. This is how Wilder has bamboozled you americans because he has had a steady flow of unknown fighters to give devastating knock outs to make him seem good. Its funny how Wilder's handlers were congratulating Fury and even shaking their head at Wilder before the result was announced. Wilder gets destroyed by any decent british heavyweight, Dereck Chisora, Daniel Dubois, Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua easily ghost this guy. Even Parker, Povetkin, Takam would give Wilder problems

Parker didn't want the fight with Wilder and he would get his shit kicked in anyway. Chisora, PEDvetkin or any short stocky heavyweight will not beat Wilder. Ortiz gave him problems because he is a skilled boxer with an extensive amateur pedigree.
 

richlove

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Why do people keep saying Wilder was exposed? We knew going in he couldn't box. Even he said that.
There are two "We"'s ... the we that knew previously that Wilder, is one of the most technically shitty/successful champions of all time..basically the Worldstar swinging style world champion, except he's participating in the sport of boxing..and then there's the we that actually judge professional fights like Worldstar street fights..no way in hell a guy can win a fight if he got knocked down more than the other guy and one of the knockdowns appeared to be a flat-line. That We shouldn't be debating with people that know the sweet science.
 

gene cisco

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He is.

An open secret in boxing is that you can't 'beat' the champ- you gotta kick his ass. It has to be decisive.

The fact that Wilder knocked Fury down twice- one in the final round- and when it came to the split decision everyone who doesn't pick up a check from Wilder was like "I don't know about that Champ..." says A LOT.

Fury was KICKING WILDER'S ASS and the crooked ass fucking judges two 10-8 round especially the one in the 12th saved his ass because...boxing.

*two cents*
That dumb ass judge was scoring it 10-9 in rounds where Fury clearly outboxed him. Shit is beyong ridiculous. Without the knockdowns he had the fight a draw. :confused::confused:

He had to be the only human being that scored the fight that way. This is why people think boxing is a fucking joke.

As for Wilder, people pointed out his flaws for a long time. He just gets away with it because he has crazy power and is fucking 6'7". This modern 'super heavies'(I know Wilder is light but he's got the height) are just problems. Reach is speed.
 

Gemini

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Lennox Lewis is the only person that said Wilder got exposed. Where are other people yall talking about? Quote them.
 
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scullydog

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...a MONTH?!?!
In America, we tuck our jab. When it closer to our bodies, it can protect the ribs. Lennon is using the European style, leaving the hand out and pawing with the punch. This is incorrect. We changed that in the 1930's, The way Wilder is throwing his jab is correct. Just depends on your preference. He needs some work true enough, but it is his ruggedness that is keeping him at the top. Shit, George Foreman didn't box but a couple of years before he won the Olympic gold medal. Shit, Marciano, the great white hope, learn boxing out of a book. So, quit riding Wilder so hard. You got to respect the man's determination and will power. How many mofo can make it to the Olympics with only 20 fights? He just need to refocus and learn how to go to the body. Plus, he needs to focus on trying to win fights instead of trying to knock everybody out. His focus should be on winning and if the knock out comes then it comes.
 

scullydog

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It takes 30 days to learn how to box. All there are jabs, right hand, hooks, and upper cuts. What else do the brother got to learn. Now, it will take a few months of work to balance that shit. But, it won't take years.
His technical flaws aint getting fixed with 1 training camp, dude needs years of work really to learn the techniques in the ring.[/QUOTE
 

Rollie_Fingaz

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In America, we tuck our jab. When it closer to our bodies, it can protect the ribs. Lennon is using the European style, leaving the hand out and pawing with the punch. This is incorrect. We changed that in the 1930's, The way Wilder is throwing his jab is correct. Just depends on your preference. He needs some work true enough, but it is his ruggedness that is keeping him at the top. Shit, George Foreman didn't box but a couple of years before he won the Olympic gold medal. Shit, Marciano, the great white hope, learn boxing out of a book. So, quit riding Wilder so hard. You got to respect the man's determination and will power. How many mofo can make it to the Olympics with only 20 fights? He just need to refocus and learn how to go to the body. Plus, he needs to focus on trying to win fights instead of trying to knock everybody out. His focus should be on winning and if the knock out comes then it comes.

You missed my point. I have acknowledged all of this in previous posts. He needs more than a month to correct issues with his jab. But to be honest this fight was an anomaly. How many other heavyweights out there have the reach and know how to use their jab the way Fury does? The last one was Klitschko.

Once he heals up and before he signs to fight anyone else Wilder needs to stay in the gym and correct his flaws. If that means bringing in someone to help than so be it.

And if you saw the post fight interview the plan was to go to the body which he has success with when he did it. He said he was so mad and wanted to knock Fury out so he was headhunting.
 

meilmarc

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It takes 30 days to learn how to box. All there are jabs, right hand, hooks, and upper cuts. What else do the brother got to learn. Now, it will take a few months of work to balance that shit. But, it won't take years.

Bullshit, distance, balance, pivoting, countering, slipping and parrying punches, and all other advanced shit. Not even counting learning how to relax your body while in that ring plus building stamina. And thats not even half of the shit.

@alexw

Niccas on bgol are something else. 30 days to learn how to box with world class boxers my ass.
 

rude_dog

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I disagree, this was not a great fight. It was actually a bad fight until the 12th. The only thing that made this fight memorable is Fury getting up from the knockdown and recovering.

Both guys landed less than 90 punches, GEt the fuck out of here with that bullshit. That’s the controversy of this fight, neither one accomplished much offense in several rounds.
 

scullydog

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You missed my point. I have acknowledged all of this in previous posts. He needs more than a month to correct issues with his jab. But to be honest this fight was an anomaly. How many other heavyweights out there have the reach and know how to use their jab the way Fury does? The last one was Klitschko.

Once he heals up and before he signs to fight anyone else Wilder needs to stay in the gym and correct his flaws. If that means bringing in someone to help than so be it.

And if you saw the post fight interview the plan was to go to the body which he has success with when he did it. He said he was so mad and wanted to knock Fury out so he was headhunting.
Yeah, I saw his interview and he fucked up. Nonetheless, his wildness is his help. That what's carrying him over. Again, he has some flaws, but everybody in boxing is not technical. That don't mean they can't win. Henry Armstrong wasn't technical, but he won three championships in three different weight classes. Arron Pryor wasn't technical but he was a cold mofo. He beat the shit out of Alexis Arguello and just about everybody else he fought. This dude did not lose until he was on a come back and was coked out. I do agree with you, however. Fury is akward, but even if Wilder don't improve his technique, if he tries to win instead of try to knock him out, he will knock him out early. Body work stop all that f**king moving.
 
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