Diddy Says Drake Is Top 5 All Time

durham

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This is mad disrespectful to the art form, and surprised Diddy would take this stance.

Commerce over art I guess.
 

REDLINE

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all his mixtapes were sounding like somebody else, he always switches his style.. to whatever artist is hot in the streets..

buuuuuuut you have to give him credit, he made that shit a gotdam art form....

and he does have bangers.... I like some of his shit.. just not a fan and would never pay to see him live...

but if I had tickets I would go just to see the hoes..

that muthafucka BRINGS out the hoes.....

He does switch his styles and I agree with most of what you said.

It just when people say “Marketing” with him, he’s really not the most marketable if you really want to break it down.
 

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That's fucking meaningless

It's a lot easier to have a hit now

That's some shit chicks say.

Although the records are impressive because of the length of time and constantly. I wouldn’t bring that up talking about Drake.
 

Complex

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Again, I get it and it’s a personal thing as it should be.

But again, if the greatest rappers living say he’s top 5 lyrically. Then I’m generally gonna side with their opinions.

Again, I’m talking about his skill level.

I don’t listen to Nas like that. I listen to the first two albums then I kinda fell off. Kinda like Jay said he did! :lol:

But if you ask me to list the top rappers of all time, I’m gonna list Nas. As I said, I don’t personally listen to Nas like that. But it’d be disrespectful to him and Hip Hop for me not to list him.

Trust me, I get it though.

Would they say that behind closed doors?

That's different
 

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care to elaborate good fella....??

Canadian, half Jewish, raps and sings, on a teenage sitcom where he was in a wheelchair.

jimmy_season_5.jpg


Do I need to go on good fella?

That on paper doesn’t sound like a successful rapper in the making, I could be wrong though.
 

footloose

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Never seen Eminem in anyone black top five

and Drake shouldn't be in anyones top five over 30
Umm was it Kane or rakim that put eminem in there too 5. I forgot which one it was.

oh wait Here it is. This Nicca got me by a couple a shades


And I’m talking all time. “Hip hop don’t stop “
 

Mrfreddygoodbud

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Canadian, half Jewish, raps and sings, on a teenage sitcom where he was in a wheelchair.

jimmy_season_5.jpg


Do I need to go on good fella?

That on paper doesn’t sound like a successful rapper in the making, I could be wrong though.

are you kidding me joe pesci, dude was a marketing

christmas present..

he already had millions of fans looking out for his music..

plus he had that personality that people want to see win,

because he lives his life like he has no enemies...

except pusha T tho.

he feelin some strong kinda way bout pusha T..

:lol:
 

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are you kidding me joe pesci, dude was a marketing

christmas present..

he already had millions of fans looking out for his music..

plus he had that personality that people want to see win,

because he lives his life like he has no enemies...

except pusha T tho.

he feelin some strong kinda way bout pusha T..

:lol:

Are you kidding me captain crunch? Canadian rappers don’t usually make it in the states. Who was the biggest before him, “Snow”?

What other actors from popular shows went on to be successful? Fans are pretty fickle, they generally only accept you doing one thing.
 

Complex

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You said you never seen a black person put em in top five before. This Nicca look black to me. And Nicca I’m from the Bronx man. I had the cold crush and treacherous 3 tape hot off the press Sherlock

Are you actually reading the conversation we're having?

I have never heard a black person who wasn't a artist name Em. I didn't know any black people I knew who listened to Eminem.

And you're 60 years old talking about Eminem?

Do you listen to Eminem?
 

Mrfreddygoodbud

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Are you kidding me captain crunch? Canadian rappers don’t usually make it in the states. Who was the biggest before him, “Snow”?

What other actors from popular shows went on to be successful? Fans are pretty fickle, they generally only accept you doing one thing.


capn crunch..lol

will smith blew the hell up after fresh prince... bruh youd be surprised how many american stars were from canada

I do agree tho, its rare for a canadian rapper to blow up like he did...

but I still say he has a team of folks behind him that help with damage control and keeping him relevant..

when him and meek was battling, it wasnt meek going up against drake alone, it was drakes whole team flooding the internet,

protecting their cash cow... they couldnt do that with pusha t.. and drake still fucked up over that...

but again, drake wouldnt have been so successful if he wasnt good at taking styles..

feel me lil reese
 

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Are you kidding me captain crunch? Canadian rappers don’t usually make it in the states. Who was the biggest before him, “Snow”?

What other actors from popular shows went on to be successful? Fans are pretty fickle, they generally only accept you doing one thing.

Yeah I think Drake beat the odds for sure. When Kanye said he came through his lineage I think he is right. Kanye made it more open for Drake to be accepted as hip hop was always about how gangsta someone was at the early part of this millennium which makes it sad how him and Drake fell out.

Diddy I don't know if he is trying to be relevant with a younger audience or what, but him saying Drake is top 5 came out of nowhere. What Drake has done on the billboards can't be ignored though regardless. The man is competing with Beatles and Michael Jackson of all people.

The real debate is can the new artists be really compared to artists from the past on an even level? What would happen if Drake had to work under their model or they worked under the current model? As my friend pointed out to me today, Drake has people having his music at their fingerprint with phones for downloads. Comparing him to 90's rappers is kind of unfair in comparison to how Diddy got Biggie into the mainstream.
 

dtownsfinest

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Does he have a classic song? A signature joint that is timeless
I mean some people would probably say yes but I don’t know if I would. And shit I love So Far Gone and Take care.....but naw man let’s not revise history. This dude a pop artist and he ain’t even got a classic pop album.
 

footloose

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Are you actually reading the conversation we're having?

I have never heard a black person who wasn't a artist name Em. I didn't know any black people I knew who listened to Eminem.

And you're 60 years old talking about Eminem?

Do you listen to Eminem?
G47 youn
Are you actually reading the conversation we're having?

I have never heard a black person who wasn't a artist name Em. I didn't know any black people I knew who listened to Eminem.

And you're 60 years old talking about Eminem?

Do you listen to Eminem?
47 youngin get ya calculator. This dude says he doesn’t know Black people that listened to eminem :lol: idk. Maybe you only know 2 black people. So that ain’t sayin much
 

Rembrandt Brown

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Where's @Rembrandt Brown , 99% of your fans wear high heels

I'm not mad at it! I've never walked a mile in Diddy's heels.

Oh and my bad, he said “His” top 5. Nigga I don’t give a fuck what his top 5 is!

I think that’s where people get it messed up and take offense. Every person’s entitled to their top 5 because it’s theirs. As long as they don’t insinuate that their 5 is the best 5 ever.
 

Heavenlywings77

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A strong 9/10 but got points deducted because of Weeknd writing tracks on it. This ain’t a classic through. It’s his best work. This shit don’t stand next to Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt.


if you deduct cause niggas ghost writing your in for some serious news bruv
 

PDQ21

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Never gonna consider somebody in the Top if they don't write their own shit i don't care how many ppl love him

I like his songs because bitches love it and i know whether its a bar, club, bbq, the chicks gonna get live
 

jasonblacc

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Jay
Biggie
Face
Ghostface
Pac
Redman
Nas
Cube

That’s my list
than luda
Ti
Meth
Raekwon

Drake hasn’t even passed the newcomers

gimme Kendrick or Cole over drake
 

Heavenlywings77

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What exactly is the criteria for being in the top 5? Dude been making hits for a long time know. I know impact on a generation is one of them.


dudes can't see beyond their biases. If they made a criteria I guarantee the 5 rappers they name more thanlikely won't even be on it. I've had this debate with so many people, their criteria starts mutating into

them: Well You got to at least have a J and a Z in your name

me: And Im like what that have to do with bars? or rap for that matter?

them: It's just my preference
 
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