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Diddy Says Drake Is Top 5 All Time
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47 youngin get ya calculator. This dude says he doesn’t know Black people that listened to eminemidk. Maybe you only know 2 black people. So that ain’t sayin much
Are you trolling or just stupid and posting because you're bored.?
Instead of saying I listen to Em or my friends and me listen to Em, you posted some clip of BDK.
You never answered my question. Do you listen to him?
And so you were listening to The Treacherous Three and Cold Crush at five.
Damn no KRS One, Black Thought, Rakim, Chuck D, Big Daddy Kane, Andre 3000, Qtip, . Just making the argument that there is NO WAY Drake can be top 5 all time. So Yes I agree with you. Take the artists in groups OUT, for arguments sake, and Drake still doesn't have a spot on the Top 5
LL Cool J are similar in the emotional hip hop lane, but no fucking way Drake is better all time than LL.
Drake ain't better than Kendrick in his own era. Diddy is looking at the money generated at the the major factor in his assessment.
Are you trolling or just stupid and posting because you're bored.?
Instead of saying I listen to Em or my friends and me listen to Em, you posted some clip of BDK.
You never answered my question. Do you listen to him?
And so you were listening to The Treacherous Three and Cold Crush at five.
Either you can’t count or u a googling Nicca. That tape came out in 82. How you get 5
And listen to em would mean present. So no. Listened to em back then. Yes. Especially Niccas that rapped reallly listened to em. The rappers rapper was
grand master kaz, then kool g rap, then it was em. In that order For those times. And I never rapped just to nip that in the bud.
That ain’t just ghostwriting he used Weeknds whole sound on that album.
i have yet to hear a line from Drake that made me go
in a positive way.
You mean you didn't like the line
"Last name Ever, First name Greatest"
Haha
Will blew up acting wise after Fresh Prince, and before you say it. He did have hits with “Gettin Jiggy” and “Miami” but he was more of a novelty act. But he did get more popular with all of the eyes looking at him. That’s one example, but he rapped before The Fresh Prince. Most aren’t able to transition from one art form to another successfully.
Now when I’m speaking about Drake not being marketable, I’m speaking about the beginning. On paper he wasn’t marketable. Yes he does have a team behind him now, now everyone’s blinded to everything negative that he does. Like not writing his rhymes and having reference tracks. As a spitter and a lyricist, his career should’ve been over. But it wasn’t even a blip on the radar, everyone backed him and turned on Meek.
That was partly Meek’s part for not clapping back, plus social media backing Drake.
Drake does take styles and runs with him, I guess that’s his trademark.
And yes, I do feel you Nickolas Minaj
Yeah Drake definitely came through Kanye’s lineage. From Drake’s viewpoint, Kanye did all some snake shit and there’s no coming back from that. Especially at how highly Drake regarded Kanye.
I don’t usually compare rappers from the past to the rappers today because it’s totally different times.
I always say, what if a rapper came out today talking about “Bum Stiggedy Bum”!
And yes I did like Das EFX.
With that said, every rapper in the 80’s and 90’s weren’t hardcore rappers. Everyone wasn’t a gangsta so many artist today would’ve been ok back then. But many wouldn’t have made it because record companies wouldn’t have believed in their product.
Nowadays, rappers and producers make beats at home and they put themselves on! So it’s a lot more out there, that’s a good and bad thing.
“Take Care” is an album that I can press play and not skip a song all the way through. That is Drake’s “Classic” album. So when people ask does he have one? That’s it.
And I can’t compare them to “Illmatic” and “Reasonable Doubt”, but that is Drake‘s “Classic” album
Criteria is really just a “Feeling”. Because it’s not all about record sales, popularity. It’s about impact, lyrically ability and just a feeling.
See I named a few criteria but I didn’t want to.
Like let’s look at BIG. He released one album when he was alive. Yes he had freestyles and mixtapes that he rapped on, but he had one album.
Released an album after he passed away, Puff said he was the “GOAT” and that has stuck ever since.
And yes, BIG did have a huge impact on Hip Hop! But one album when he was alive?
How many rappers can say they released a better album than Ready to Die?
I’m not speaking about the quality of the album, I’m stating that it’s one album and one album had him etched as one of the GOAT.
But to answer your question, not many.
Yeah Drake definitely came through Kanye’s lineage. From Drake’s viewpoint, Kanye did all some snake shit and there’s no coming back from that. Especially at how highly Drake regarded Kanye.
I don’t usually compare rappers from the past to the rappers today because it’s totally different times.
I always say, what if a rapper came out today talking about “Bum Stiggedy Bum”!
And yes I did like Das EFX.
With that said, every rapper in the 80’s and 90’s weren’t hardcore rappers. Everyone wasn’t a gangsta so many artist today would’ve been ok back then. But many wouldn’t have made it because record companies wouldn’t have believed in their product.
Nowadays, rappers and producers make beats at home and they put themselves on! So it’s a lot more out there, that’s a good and bad thing.
I just had a convo about this a couple hours ago. He swears up and down Drake is the GOAT for any era and I tried to explain to him comparing 80's and 90's to now is apple and oranges with the models. I actually asked him some of the questions some brought up here about Drake and he just ignored me with the quotes lol. He really couldn't give an answer.
I told him that usually when someone is a real GOAT most of the time the majority would agree, but with someone like Drake there are way too many people who disagree for it to be fact.
Yeah, everyone wasn't gangsta for real and there was at least variety though. There was also the appearance at least of trying to sound different from another rapper. Today everyone just rides the waves. I guess it's good business, but bad for the music listener. I agree too that there is both a good and bad to everyone and their mother being able to make beats and rap a rhyme from home.
I will say this. I'm a bit surprised at how Drake ended up becoming such a huge star and not doing with strictly rapping. I know some may not believe this, but to me Drake originally came off as a back pack type rapper. He does know how to switch up and that is his key to success although some may call it wave jumping.
I remember how pro Drake this board was when he was droppings mixtapes. He was the one...It's amazing to see the 360.
Will blew up acting wise after Fresh Prince, and before you say it. He did have hits with “Gettin Jiggy” and “Miami” but he was more of a novelty act. But he did get more popular with all of the eyes looking at him. That’s one example, but he rapped before The Fresh Prince. Most aren’t able to transition from one art form to another successfully.
Now when I’m speaking about Drake not being marketable, I’m speaking about the beginning. On paper he wasn’t marketable. Yes he does have a team behind him now, now everyone’s blinded to everything negative that he does. Like not writing his rhymes and having reference tracks. As a spitter and a lyricist, his career should’ve been over. But it wasn’t even a blip on the radar, everyone backed him and turned on Meek.
That was partly Meek’s part for not clapping back, plus social media backing Drake.
Drake does take styles and runs with him, I guess that’s his trademark.
And yes, I do feel you Nickolas Minaj
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I think because Drake started to focus strictly on emotional music for women. As seen in the thread with the LL comments. He even went there at times with "Mama Said Knock You Out" when people thought he was rapping just for the women. It is also how you do the music for the women. Biggie did songs for women, but it would be seen as more masculine than some of what Drake was doing.
Just to show how the times have changed. Last night I was watching "Endlessly In Love" with Faith Evans documentary. On some of the comments under the video you see some women turn on Tupac for "using Faith" and Biggie for playing Faith. One comment even said they were lucky they were not around today because she would lead the charge to cancel culture them for their mistreatment of women.
My eyes popped out seeing that knowing that in reality that could have occurred if they were here in the last couple years with "Me Too Movement". Drake's era fits him for who he targets and then guys like or respect him because of his money moves.
The song that Drake says is the Moonwalk tutorial basically.
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kids will not care theyre just going to be doin that shit all summerThe song that Drake says is the Moonwalk tutorial basically.
Drake Admits “Toosie Slide” Is Connected To Michael Jackson’s Moonwalk
Drake has been preparing for the release of his next album. He appeared on Instagram Live last night and previewed new music, including songs with Playboi Carti, Popcaan, Fivio Foreign,
Oh they won't, but it goes to show how Drake does study the greats and flips to how kids want it today.
Joe and them were talking about this on the podcast...in order to be considered one of the greatest ever...how many albums do you need to have? like if you have two good albums...can you really say that you're one of the greats..im thinking specifically about Biggie...
Was this before he went on to trash Jay Elec for being a cameo on his own debut album/ mistake?
That is a good point btw, 'Pac and Big have to be exceptions, but what's everyone else's excuse?
Most ppl I know point to So Far Gone as being his classic, back when it was just a mixtape. Now that its an "album," it doesn't get quite the same love.
I give Drake props on his billboard accomplishments... 500+ weeks in a row probably won't get broken anytime soon.... thats a hell of a grind, output and commitment by the label.
I dont even know how anyone can compare hits in this era with previous eras. Mofos are going gold and platinum without even selling records but because of streaming
so comparing all these hits, milestones, numbers shit etc etc to previous eras seems a little fugazi to me.....
I dont even know how anyone can compare hits in this era with previous eras. Mofos are going gold and platinum without even selling records but because of streaming
Its a catch 22....
You either compare the new school to the old metrics of the previous era.... or risk completely alienating the old era by trying to compare them to the new metrics....
Its not a catch 22 for me. As it relates to the numbers these new cats ain't selling shit. So I dont know how anyone can compare actual sales to non sales. Streaming is not selling it's more like radio play but its not actual sales. Just compare sales to sales and I'm sure drake's numbers would be dramatically different and doesn't compare to the previous legends....
Successful is great but I don't think it's timeless for me. Maybe him and Beiber are top 5 Canadian artists.
Some might argue sales figures of old were hindered by the inconvenience of having to go to a store and buy a physical copy. I remember reports of so n so being "sold out." At certain retailers. How many sales were lost to mfkrs not wanting to drive from store to store? Now mfkrs just gotta make a few clicks on their phone or computer and voila.
And with that ease of access is a lower volume of actual sales but a huge spike in streams. Which is why they had to make an algorithm to turn streams to sales... they had to quantify 1 Million or 1 Billion streams into something because the labels are getting paid for those streams. the artist and behind the scenes folks deserve a piece of that pie.
Play this while u inside a bitch and u will see why drake top 5
I can skip about 2 or 3. Make Me Proud was corny to me. Didn’t like Headlines either but I might’ve just got burned out on that but I skip those two for sure.
And “his” classic is one thing but the not a classic album. Nellys classic album would be Country Grammer but it ain’t a classic album.
Shit he ain’t top nothing as a singer either. Hell I won’t even put him top as rappers who sing too. Maybe too 5 pop singer? I’d put him ahead of Britney Spears lol.