Elon Nazi Musk says effective immediately all federal workers must justify their jobs or resign.
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You are so focused on arguing your position that you are missing my position and not questioning your own. My position is that I am focused on Black folks. Both parties are racist and have not addressed Black folks. Throughout American history, Black folks have been the soldiers that fought for the rights of all groups. Women, Latinos, Asians, Gays, etc. None of these groups have allied with us when we fought for our needs. These actions of Elon and Trump are aren’t primarily directed at us. 20% is a low percentage to be as pissed off as you appear to be. The truth is that a lot of Government workers have been getting paid with our tax money despite not being productive. Even if you disagree, we are talking about 80% CACs and 20% of Black folks. Let them fight this battle. Look at the pictures of the people that are protesting Elon. You won’t see a Black face in any of the crowds. They are pissed off about stuff affecting Jews not Black folks. Let them fight their own battle.
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So the anti DEI initiatives were about white folks?
Bruh...you can't be this fucking stupid..... it's almost a statistical impossibility.
IT WAS THE FIRST FUCKING THING THEY DID....
Share the stats showing how Black folks were affected. “DEI” wasn’t directed to us and we weren’t the “primary beneficiaries” of “DEI programs”.
No...why don't you share the stats that show that it wasn't....
Here you go again with the both sides bullshit. Why can’t you admit the republicans are in power fucking shit up . You said Elon musk isn’t racist. You don’t care about Black people. If you did you’d be mad at all the shit Elon and Trump are doing to us. No , you start screaming that both sides stupid shit. Lmbaoo at DEI isn’t about us. My god, do you need racism spelled out to you or do racists need to do a blitz on all of us at once rather than slowly taking us down like they are doing. DEI ain’t about us? FOH Jesus you are a troll
We make up 13% of the population but make up 20% of all government jobs. Are you slow? You have to be trolling. You can’t be this fucking retarded as a nearly 60 year old . You keep acting like the Democrats are all old white men. You keep saying they are racist like there are no Black Dems out there. Do you really think Kamala Harris would be cutting Federal jobs , firing Black Generals for cacs, removing HBCU funding, and all the other bullshit Elon and Trump are doing? You don’t care about Black folks, you care about being a MAGAT
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The best thing I did was block Spiderman. Dude is not very bright and I am tired of his corny ramblings. He's happy Trump is in. I'm happy to not see his posts..win...win.
So the answer is to have them give updates via an email of their daily task? Let's assume there isn't some form of performance evaluation in place at all levels. Would it not make more sense to develop expectations based on the goals of the federal government and measure employees against them? Instead this idiot is firing people whose jobs he doesn't understand.
Also, exactly who is going to look at and confirm the responses? How much time will be wasted? The expectations may vary by role in an organization but alot of companies have formal PEs in place. I would assume the federal government would have some form of this. I know it at least happens informally because my friend talked about his yearly review with his manager. I also know people have been fired from government jobs due to issues with their taxes, so there is some form of formal review for employees in place. Is there a reason Elon doesn't use the information available to get rid of poor performers?
No one is saying there aren't people not working or roles that aren't really needed. when i worked for the postal services, it was a known thing that some people took advantage of the union, didn't work much and worse prevented temps from doing the work they refused to do. At my current job, we just had a lady leave ( uncle left her money) and bragged about not working for the 10 plus years she was with the company. Not that it matters, but this was an older white woman. What people have an issue with is recklessly making decisions that could compromise the country and have social impacts.
i get you are a super Tesla/Elon fanboy. While i won't buy another Tesla product for various reasons, Elons behavior doesn't help especially since there are true alternatives now. You can fuck with a product without blindly following a man who clearly doesn't have your best interests at heart. Personally, I don't believe Elon was responsible for any ideas at Tesla or any of the other companies. His main impact was his money. The only thing I give him credit for was being one of the first CEOs to take advantage of social media and at the time coming off like a normal/everyday person by doing so. That marketing was the main thing that separated Tesla from others and built the cult you seem to be a part of.
While I'm not a Democrat, I am usually leaning that way with my vote. It's simple to me. While I may not fully agree with all of their stances, Democrats usually have a live and let live attitude. Republicans for all their small government talk really seem to want to control every aspect of your life based on their fake morality. The funny thing is fundamentally the average Black person has alot of the core values of the Republican party. Their racism is the reason they'll never pull the majority to their side. It's no way I'd ever vote for someone who removes safe guards that benefit my people. DEI, Affirmative Action these things were developed to offset racist behavior knowingly or subconsciously. Not only that, their recent decisions goes against their fake family values and hard working people. At least, when it comes from the minorities. I haven’t heard any stories of people from European countries being run down on by ICE. That said, they do have the privilege of white skin and therfore blending in. All of their moves seem to be race based or a power grab to approve Elon's companies.
Reading the bullshit you post, I'm convinced that you are just making sure that your keyboard is working.
If they were just going after poor performers, no one would have a problem with it. That's not what the fuck they are doing. They are literally firing people just because they can.
This puts ALL of us in danger.
We need air traffic controllers to make sure more planes don't crash and we need nuclear security staff to look after our nuclear stockpile.
Last time I checked black folks fly on planes and live on planet earth.
You were riding with the trolls. How's your Medicare and medicaid?
There are literally millions of people who are employed by the US government.
Do people really think Musk and his DOGE flunkies are requiring they send emails to justify their jobs to evaluate them?
Even if they wanted to how the hell would they organize and read that many replies.
This is simply a show of power and intimidation by Musk with the blessing of Trump.
It's some sick shit, like watching an animal play with it's prey before it kills them.
Do people really think Musk and his DOGE flunkies are requiring they send emails to justify their jobs to evaluate them?
Even if they wanted to how the hell would they organize and read that many replies.
This is simply a show of power and intimidation by Musk with the blessing of Trump.
It's some sick shit, like watching an animal play with it's prey before it kills them.
That shit is crazy. What if you're on vacation?
They're even doing it with people with security clearances and the CIA and FBI
Taking orders from a South African, "saving money" but the defense department can bail out his ugly ass lunch boxes that aren't selling.
They're even doing it with people with security clearances and the CIA and FBI
Taking orders from a South African, "saving money" but the defense department can bail out his ugly ass lunch boxes that aren't selling.
I wonder if in the e-mails some people are going to say,they voted for Trump
Why do yall engage with it, stop feeding it
People in the private sector have to do this when an auditor and private equity comes in. Hell, at my tech company we've had to do it after reorgs.
Why is it beneath government workers? The same people who never showed even a fraction of outrage, or mobilization, when it happened to the rest of us despite them being in safe jobs for decades?
Why is it beneath government workers? The same people who never showed even a fraction of outrage, or mobilization, when it happened to the rest of us despite them being in safe jobs for decades?
No one is reading or sending those out. It's AI generated, and responding gets you put on a list to be let go. Two people got put on the list, because while they were out, their email sent an "Out of office" reply, and that counted as a response.
Were told don't respond until further guidance from OPM
Like I said, they are using AI.
Elon Musk isn't reading shit!!
He doesn't care if he is wrong.
He is just going to fire them.
AI will then tell them what the duties are and they will try to automate those duties.
Ive never heard of him, and seeing his posts on this thread make me think he is some fat weird nigga porn addict with no line up. Im blocking him too.
Thanks
You chose to work in the private sector. You chose to be abused.People in the private sector have to do this when an auditor and private equity comes in. Hell, at my tech company we've had to do it after reorgs.
Why is it beneath government workers? The same people who never showed even a fraction of outrage, or mobilization, when it happened to the rest of us despite them being in safe jobs for decades?
The government workers chose to work for the beast.
They chose to serve whatever clown we elect.
also lets not act like its a choice. The government would move so slow with hiring I was still getting rejections for internships I applied for during Obama's first term during Trump's first term. Shit's been sweet for feds a LONG time, and during this time not a fuck was given to the rest of us by them. The fact that somebody asking what you do is so traumatizing to some is just proof the different reality we live in. An educated, stable, and safe class could have been on the main street fighting to give all of us the rights they enjoyed, but they sat quiet and didnt give a fuck. Every weekend in DC was just Brunch time and paper bag tests...screw it.
Time to justify your work to the boer. Have our state pry into you the way you helped them pry into folks all across this world.
United States Merit Systems Protection Board - Wikipedia
Anytime you see probationary or other nonsense, it is a workaround, the labor agreement, and Merit Protection Service Board. I posted a termination letter blaming performance. Let's say a black employee applies for a job with impeccable credentials, they can use this probationary. period to get rid of you and manufacture performance issues that will be well documented. Even though they spent eight months vetting you in their interview process.
Your only recourse is the civil rights commission that each agency has. That is sad that each agency has a Civil Rights Commission. An career employee can file a grievance under their labor agreement and go through the merit protection service board.
This nonsense, of course was started by a Democrat. You should have full protections on day one, not one year or two years from now.
I might start my own thread about this since many of you work in federal government and could use the mentorship that I can provide. @Dr. Truth is not a big fan of my work.
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This is all part of the tactics to make Fed employees as uncomfortable and frustrated as possible to get mass quitting since they can’t do the amount of mass firings they want at the moment.
Imagine getting some bullshit “what do you do” questions not from your direct management chain but from people not even in your department/company.
Imagine getting some bullshit “what do you do” questions not from your direct management chain but from people not even in your department/company.
United States Merit Systems Protection Board - Wikipedia
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Anytime you see probationary or other nonsense, it is a workaround, the labor agreement, and Merit Protection Service Board. I posted a termination letter blaming performance. Let's say a black employee applies for a job with impeccable credentials, they can use this probationary. period to get rid of you and manufacture performance issues that will be well documented. Even though they spent eight months vetting you in their interview process.
Your only recourse is the civil rights commission that each agency has. That is sad that each agency has a Civil Rights Commission. An employee can file a grievance under their labor agreement and go through the merit protection service board.
This nonsense, of course was started by a Democrat. You should have full protections on day one, not one year or two years from now.
I might start my own thread about this since many of you work in federal government and could use the mentorship that I can provide. @Dr. Truth is not a big fan of my work.
I'll be like George Zimmerman on that ICE hotline when I see black faced, non-FBA piece of filth like @mcguyver, @Fuckallyall, @RoomService, trying to claim our culture for his own. If my daughter brought a non-FBA, black faced clown home I would immediately disown her, remove her from her inheritance and no longer pay for any college.
I'm thinking about doing a movie myself to set the record straight on what I have been doing behind the scenes. No tell him what they might try to claim as their own.
Happens all the time in the private sector. Have you ever been through a private equity take over or merger?
Dog, the minute they passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, White folks decided it wasn’t worth it before the ink was dry.
I understand this country hasn’t been great to you, but this approach isn’t the right path.
That weirdo randomly turned this way he wasn’t like this before . He must be broke or something . He’s turned into a moronic coon.
He’s the nigga that said he never washes his ass
Much of the Black middle class was built by federal jobs. That may change.
Summary
For the last several decades, federal jobs helped Black workers find stable work with guardrails to prevent bias, but mass cuts are threatening decades of upward mobility.
Feb. 22, 2025, 9:00 AM EST
When Francine Verdine took a job as a clerk at the Internal Revenue Service in Houston in 1983, it was supposed to be a stopgap until something better came along. She didn’t expect that 42 years later, she would look back on it as the start of a rewarding career that provided growth in various management positions, upward mobility and the opportunity to build a comfortable life for her family.
“I enjoyed my career,” said Verdine, who retired in 2019. “I had no idea when I started that I could make the money I did by the time I left. It’s sad that many others’ opportunity to have a similar career could be over.”
For decades, the federal government provided both reliable jobs and guardrails to offset systemic racial bias in hiring and promotions, offering an alternative for Black workers who might be overlooked or ignored in the private sector. They played a crucial role in helping Black workers like Verdine join the middle class and thrive. But vast cuts by the Trump administration, led by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, are threatening to close down that once-dependable path to financial stability.
The government, which has about 3 million employees, is the largest employer in the country. At least 75,000 of them accepted buyout offers and thousands were fired in the last several weeks. Many of the workers fired were either newer hires or told they were let go for subpar performance.
“The federal workforce was a means to help build Black middle class. It hired Black Americans at a higher rate than private employers,” said Sheria Smith, president of the American Federation of Government Employees Local 252, which represents the Education Department employees.
As a part of his efforts, President Trump is angling to shut down the Department of Education, a move that will have dramatic repercussions around the country. Nearly 30% of Education employees are Black according to a 2024 report by the department.
Smith said 74 workers at the department had been let go so far, 60 of whom are Black.
At the Department of Health and Human Services, where more than 1,300 new hires were reportedly laid off, 20% of the staff was Black. And at the Department of Veterans Affairs, which recently lost 1,000 employees, 24% are Black.
These numbers illustrate how important government jobs have been and are for Black people, said Marcus Casey, a fellow in the Economic Studies program at the Brookings Institution. He said the administration’s efforts are trying to undermine the gains of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which banned discrimination on the basis of race and other characteristics, and of affirmative action, which began in the federal government to make the hiring and promoting process more inclusive.
“Whether it was from the post office, through direct growth of federal agencies, through the military — the government fought against the headwinds associated with the private sector,” said Casey, an affiliated scholar with Brookings’ Future of Middle Class Initiative.
Many Black people could build careers through the federal government typically because the private sector overlooked them, regardless of their qualifications, he said. “And so, the federal government has been essential to the building of the Black middle class.”
A worker at the Department of Transportation in Washington, D.C, who requested anonymity for fear of being fired, said several workers in his office have been fired for “poor performance.”
“Morale is so low,” he said. “People who should be there are gone. Everyone is nervous about the next shoe dropping.”
He said he has 16 years on the job and was planning to retire in four. “I wanted to do an even 20, maybe even 25. But I have to be honest with myself now: I don’t think I’m going to make it. Every indicator is that my head will be chopped off sooner or later. How can anyone be productive with that hanging over you?”
Undoing DEI to cut the federal workforce
The president’s sweeping changes began with ending DEI throughout the government,weaponizing it as a “destructive ideology” along the way. Countless jobs have been lost in an area that was created to develop fair hiring opportunities.
“A lot of Black people not only benefited from what they call DEI now, but the original affirmative action programs, and the veteran preferences,” Casey said. “That combination helped a lot of people get a foothold in the civil service.” These efforts, he said, “helped people get middle-class salaries and build middle-class lives with an ecosystem of race-specific businesses around Black communities.”
Verdine said it’s no secret that the government could be streamlined, but added that the way the administration is going about it is “disheartening.”
“There’s no humanity in what’s happening right now,” she said. “No organization. It’s just chaos and people being hurt.”
Among those facing the chaos are Verdine’s daughter and daughter-in-law, who have disabilities, and are federal workers at the Food and Drug Administration. Under Schedule A, workers with disabilities are allowed a faster hiring process, but their probationary periods are longer than a standard federal employee.
Her family members were reluctant to speak with NBC News about their worries for the future for fear of reprisal. Verdine said they are rightfully fearful, as disabilities are a part of diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility programs that Trump barred two days after being sworn in.
“You cannot tell where this will go,” she said. “My daughter and daughter-in-law live in uncertainty. At any time, based on how this has been going, they can get the call that their job is no more.”
The Trump administration did not respond to requests for comment.
Verdine stressed that she had to be qualified for the jobs and promotions she obtained, and in some cases, she felt as though she had to be “overly qualified” for positions that she had seen white people, men and women, get with less education, less experience than she had. “As a matter of fact, I had to train some of those same people. So, the idea that DEI was some pathway to giving Black people jobs, that just wasn’t true,” she said.
Smith, from Local 252, said that although the federal jobs cuts are not labeled as DEI casualties, the pattern is curious.
“We are concerned as a union that the vagueness of a lot of these executive orders and their implementation are actually a means or pretext to get rid of Black, brown, female members of this workforce for reasons that may not be complying with the law,” Smith said. She added that the majority of people who’ve been forced out by this administration ostensibly based on DEI do not work in DEI, but “they happen to be Black.”
In addition to regulating America’s schools, the Department of Education enforces Title VI “to make sure that Black and brown students across this country are getting equitable access to education,” Smith said. “That work has been stopped. … We’ve been told to stop working for the American people.”
Forced into early retirement
Ros Patterson, a 62-year-old benefits department worker at the Veterans Administration in Cole Valley, Illinois, received a phone call on Jan. 28 telling her she had been let go after nearly a year. She said she was told she had 90 minutes to turn in her company laptop.
Flustered and confused, because she was not given a reason for her firing at the time, Patterson drove to Iowa City, Iowa, her closest federal office, and learned that no one there was aware that she was to drop off her laptop — or had papers for her to sign confirming her termination.
Eventually, someone helped her. About 30 minutes later she learned from now-former colleagues that all VA workers had been offered a buyout that included eight months pay as part of a severance package.
As a probationary employee, she said she was not eligible for it. “I could have used that paycheck as I looked for another job,” Patterson said.
She had not planned to retire, but losing her job forced her to, she said, so she could maintain a semblance of her old life. “I wasn’t left any choice,” said Patterson, who now receives food stamps, is on Medicaid and was approved for Section 8 senior housing. “I understand probationary employees are quick and easy to fire. But it was done in such a duplicitous manner.”
She said she voted for Trump, the orchestrator of the chaos in her life, but is “not bitter. It is what it is. I’m not blaming Trump. My thing is how it happened. I had no time to process anything or get myself together. It’s cold the way it was done,” she said. “You’d expect the government to do better.”
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Biden was corrupt as fuck with his foreign deals, any person he hired, could be a plant. They are going to get rid of all these new hires and any career employees that will be forced out with bad performance reviews that will take time to manufacture.
The corruption that is rampant in the United States, I am glad I'm not going to be dealing with that at all soon. You guys are rotten to the core.
You see forests…..I see valuable lumber and potential space for condominiums.
I give no fuqs…..this dude said in 2015 as soon as his audit is over…..
Remember the tan suit….if you like your doctor you can keep them….
I’ll go live in a cardboard box under a bridge….im here for it allllllll……
Carry on…….
And yet the people in the stable middle class jobs werent out there in front fighting for others. It was all about what frat you were in. What sorority. Who could pass the paper bag test at the fancy schools, brunch, and pensions.