Grown Talk: Should Black Men show each other more respect/brotherhood?

[playahaitian]

I'm cool with some black men, but up North there are too many bitch ass ..........

i understand but the thing is we will be cordial and polite to a WHITE bitch ass...

so what is that saying.

I aint saying we have to hug, take selfies and exchange phone numbers...

but he POWER of just being brotherly without knowing ANYTHING except they look like you I think is important.

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

Question should be...should the Black Men who go for the bs and respect everyone else BESIDES their fellow Brothas show each other more love.

I have great relationships with plenty of my Brothas.
Dont involve me in yall "nigga" bs.
....lol

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

My question is.......

Why does it matter you give each other head nods if you're not actually working towards something together?

 

[playahaitian]

Question should be...should the Black Men who go for the bs and respect everyone else BESIDES their fellow Brothas show each other more love.

I have great relationships with plenty of my Brothas.
Dont involve me in yall "nigga" bs.
....lol

^^^^

this is the MOST frustrating thing especially in corporate settings.

I think its all combined though...

you wanna be anti social jerk fine but don't be tap dancing for the white guy and then ice grilling me...

like he your savior and has your best interests at heart and every Black man is your enemy.

 

[playahaitian]

My question is.......

Why does it matter you give each other head nods if you're not actually working towards something together?

I'm a little surprised that would be your response?

Can it hurt?

it may seem like a small thing but it is actually a big part of seeking ANY type of commonality and unity.

If we can't even be minimally civil with each other how can begin to build anything?

And I have SEEN the difference. (I've posted a few earlier)

We take for granted how these basic components create a foundation for us to build on.

And not only for OWN self esteem but I have seen white people's reaction to it...they don't like it. They find it disconcerting and intimidating and they want to be included BADLY.

this is just a very small first step.

If we keep wanting to run and jump while still sitting on the couch...

we will NEVER get anything done.

 

[black again]

I thought this myth was debunked LONG ago.

And I think this conservationism has held us back in many ways and really created a division between Blacks across the board.

totally agree!

It's funny now, though. Conservatism and liberalism have almost been defined by racial lines, with whites using liberal as a dirty word, as if you're in ANY way liberal, you're anti-American.

Chris Rock made a good point in one of his routines, years ago. Nobody can be conservative or liberal ALL THE TIME! On some social issues, I'm liberal. On some economic and defense issues, I'm conservative.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I'm a little surprised that would be your response?

Can it hurt?

it may seem like a small thing but it is actually a big part of seeking ANY type of commonality and unity.

If we can't even be minimally civil with each other how can begin to build anything?

And I have SEEN the difference. (I've posted a few earlier)

We take for granted how these basic components create a foundation for us to build on.

And not only for OWN self esteem but I have seen white people's reaction to it...they don't like it. They find it disconcerting and intimidating and they want to be included BADLY.

this is just a very small first step.

If we keep wanting to run and jump while still sitting on the couch...

we will NEVER get anything done.

I hear you.

I just think action needs to be emphasized over smiling at 1 another.

 

[playahaitian]

I hear you.

I just think action needs to be emphasized over smiling at 1 another.

Your 100% right...

but this create a very small crack in the armor an entry point and I have been able to build on it...

I actually got a small group of parents to get together and share info and address issues as a group concerning G&T program in NY...

initially we wouldn't even LOOK in each other directions at meetings and such, but they were quick to buddy up to the white parents they assumed knew more and had an in to the schools.

But when I kept addressing them saying hi and good morning they finally came over and when I dropped the REAL information on them they realized I knew MORE and that they also had been given FALSE info.

So it does work, not all the time and it is small, but its something.

 

[black again]

I hear you.

I just think action needs to be emphasized over smiling at 1 another.

Taking a second to smile, acknowledge, or speak IS action! It's just the first step.

A thousand mile journey begins with a single step.

 

[playahaitian]

Recently I had to go to a private school presentation for my youngest and it was predominantly filled with white professionals. I was one of 4 Black men TOTAL in a group of about 30-40 parents.

I saw a Black father and I thought he looked familiar so I guess I may have looked in his direction for more then a few seconds...He happened to look over at me and I gave him a nod and he responded with a mean ice grill...so I was a little taken aback...and responded in kind. Leaving the auditorium being separated into tour groups were were put together and he kinda bumped pass me...so I made sure to tense up my shoulder...

At this point it was a little obvious to others in the group...we were about to scrap for nothing more then a look in front of all these white people and wives and children and teachers and principal and reps from the DOE...so I looked at him about to ask what his problem was and when we looked in each others eyes there was a moment of recognition and I said...

Lincoln Logs?
(we would build these massive constructs with a Lincoln Log Lego playdoh combo!)

Playa?

We hugged an laughed for almost 10-15 seconds near tears...

He was one of my very FIRST friends from Kindergarten, we were the only Black kids in the class also being Haitian..we got teased and everything, but we supported each other, he moved a few years later, we lost contact so we hadn't seen each other in over 35 years ago.

We starting speaking in Creole laughing and realize we are STILL in between all these white people.

We exchange info looking at pictures of out kids and essentially are asked to leave because we are being so disruptive.

(Its OK we went back apologized and explained and actually seemed to touch the staff with our story )

The point is we have been so programmed to hate each other by default...hell we tend the hate the ones that look MOST like us too.

So I have seriously made this my mission and have continued to be positive and it isn't easy but we gotta keep trying...

 

[Mr.Chuckles]

If i come across any brother/sister in need i try my best to help i see so many blacks not helping each other because of this and that, all the while white folks could hate each other but would rather help they own before my black ass!

Now there are some bitch ass black (which ever the wind blows) type fuckers out there but i just help them at a distance if i can.

 

[playahaitian]

If i come across any brother/sister in need i try my best to help i see so many blacks not helping each other because of this and that, all the while white folks could hate each other but would rather help they own before my black ass!

Now there are some bitch ass black (which ever the wind blows) type fuckers out there but i just help them at a distance if i can.

^^^
this is what I'm saying...

 

[playahaitian]

father's day weekend bump

 

[kefta]

Its all a product of the context of racism/white supremacy! Black people are not to blame.

 

[house101]

I'm cool with some black men, but up North there are too many bitch ass ..........

This.... Black men are cool if you are a loser, but if you show potential, have money, have good looks, etc, black men act worse than any bitch on the planet... Just look at bgol... Niggas here stalk niggas... Mcguyver, samsneed, darrkman, amajorfucup, etc... Niggas who don't have shit will stalk niggas who live the life they wish they were living ... On the job they will try to fuck your shit up...

 

[footluva]

I notice that brothers really ain't cool with each other.

Thinking this is really hurting us...and they using this division more and more.

And I ain't even talking about street level stuff either.

Corporate level and just regular business environment.

Just walking down the street giving a head nod.

Dudes in the same neighborhood same buildings, etc. don't even acknowledge each other.

But will mean mug.

But the other don't do that.

Am I tripping?

I'm just saying imagine if Black men especially in light of recent events started acknowledging each other...

it seems unlike MANY other groups we can NEVER find some type of consensus to truly unite on and we can never vote together.

So maybe if we started building at just that simple basic level t would make a difference?

On a corporate level or any level a man is not going to acknowledge a man he doesn't know. When you start at a job one of the cool dudes will give you the lay of the land and from there y'all find out that y'all have similar interest(video games, food, women, etc) and y'all become cool and might hangout a bit.


I'm from Baltimore and grew up in the city but now I'm 38 and I've been out in the county(not that the county is any better) since I was 18 and I just assume that most of y'all are from inner cities as well and probably live in a suburb because none of us want to stay in those areas if we don't have too. I drive thru to to see my city but then go home to my family and chill. But anyways, we are from cities and we've seen how some niggas get fucked on some "hey shorty you know what time it is" or just unassuming shit like that. So we aren't just going to be on the street trying to speak to every brother or strike up a convo with every brother on the street. And men(Hetero men) are about the opposite sex, so what the fuck do I care about what another man does. "WHAT YOU EAT DONT MAKE ME SHIT".


Now I don't think that just because you look or dress a certain way that you are a "nigga" because that's racial profiling from a black man and that's not cool.


But you have to be smart when you're not in the house and your job everyday is to get home so that those that love you can still love you...and not mourn you.


When I'm out "there" I mind my business and take care of what I have to take care of. I go to the hood because the hood got that good Chinese food lmao, everybody knows that lol. But if you mind your business, those that are out there doing them will mind there's. And if they're hustling and they ask you do you want whatever, unless you do say no and go on about your business.

 

[playahaitian]

This.... Black men are cool if you are a loser, but if you show potential, have money, have good looks, etc, black men act worse than any bitch on the planet... Just look at bgol... Niggas here stalk niggas... Mcguyver, samsneed, darrkman, amajorfucup, etc... Niggas who don't have shit will stalk niggas who live the life they wish they were living ... On the job they will try to fuck your shit up...

damn I actually just had this experience unfortunately...

there has to be more to this for so many Black men to mention it.

 

[playahaitian]

On a corporate level or any level a man is not going to acknowledge a man he doesn't know. When you start at a job one of the cool dudes will give you the lay of the land and from there y'all find out that y'all have similar interest(video games, food, women, etc) and y'all become cool and might hangout a bit.


I'm from Baltimore and grew up in the city but now I'm 38 and I've been out in the county(not that the county is any better) since I was 18 and I just assume that most of y'all are from inner cities as well and probably live in a suburb because none of us want to stay in those areas if we don't have too. I drive thru to to see my city but then go home to my family and chill. But anyways, we are from cities and we've seen how some niggas get fucked on some "hey shorty you know what time it is" or just unassuming shit like that. So we aren't just going to be on the street trying to speak to every brother or strike up a convo with every brother on the street. And men(Hetero men) are about the opposite sex, so what the fuck do I care about what another man does. "WHAT YOU EAT DONT MAKE ME SHIT".


Now I don't think that just because you look or dress a certain way that you are a "nigga" because that's racial profiling from a black man and that's not cool.

But you have to be smart when you're not in the house and your job everyday is to get home so that those that love you can still love you...and not mourn you. ​

When I'm out "there" I mind my business and take care of what I have to take care of. I go to the hood because the hood got that good Chinese food lmao, everybody knows that lol. But if you mind your business, those that are out there doing them will mind there's. And if they're hustling and they ask you do you want whatever, unless you do say no and go on about your business.

I have had a few brothers say this SAME exact thing to me as soon as I became a father...

 

[footluva]

I have had a few brothers say this SAME exact thing to me as soon as I became a father...

And that real shit especially since you're a father. But even if you aren't, your job is too get home. Go take care of your business and mind your business and the rest will fall in place. We are LIONS not lambs

WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE from Watch the Throne tells it.

 

[playahaitian]

And that real shit especially since you're a father. But even if you aren't, your job is too get home. Go take care of your business and mind your business and the rest will fall in place. We are LIONS not lambs

WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE from Watch the Throne tells it.

So these dudes are saying the n-word in front of my baby girl...

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=662182&highlight=n-word

 

[Les W]

Yes.

/thread

this

 

[footluva]

So these dudes are saying the n-word in front of my baby girl...

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=662182&highlight=n-word

You can't control what others that aren't in your circle say. And we were once young on the back of the bus cussing our asses off. Not that it was right but we did it. I hear these little girls and boys(I said girls first because they go H.A.M. more than the boys lol) cussing and I just laugh and hope that they are getting the right teachings in the house and from family.


I remember I picked my daughter up from middle school one day and I didn't but I told her I heard you cussing. And I rode that all the way up until she turned 19 and I told her I never heard her. But I know how kids are because I did it. Of course she denied it but I said it to her not in a fussing manner

But if a situation is too much, I just remove myself from that situation. That's what I can control.


The kid that told them to chill has some sense.


You saying something might have helped one of them...depending on how you said it lol

 

[playahaitian]

You can't control what others that aren't in your circle say. And we were once young on the back of the bus cussing our asses off. Not that it was right but we did it. I hear these little girls and boys(I said girls first because they go H.A.M. more than the boys lol) cussing and I just laugh and hope that they are getting the right teachings in the house and from family.


I remember I picked my daughter up from middle school one day and I didn't but I told her I heard you cussing. And I rode that all the way up until she turned 19 and I told her I never heard her. But I know how kids are because I did it. Of course she denied it but I said it to her not in a fussing manner

But if a situation is too much, I just remove myself from that situation. That's what I can control.


The kid that told them to chill has some sense.


You saying something might have helped one of them...depending on how you said it lol

 

[max-dawg]

y'all must live up north.. black men still speak around here.

if it's only a head nod...


it's not like it used to be but 85 percent of the time you at least get that.

this. down south, outside of the drug turf battle, brothers speak, acknowledge, & show basic respect to each other.

when I lived in Jersey & spoke, made eye contact, etc, brothers either gave me the poker face, slight head nod, or didn't acknowledge me at all.



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[Osca Lee]

Anytime im out and about I always speak or dap up the fellas... older cats we do firm handshakes and talk about the food spots they are leaving.

As a kid growing up I remember hearing my dad and uncles would call other dudes brothaman when they would see them and give each other some skin

 

[spider705]

Anytime im out and about I always speak or dap up the fellas... older cats we do firm handshakes and talk about the food spots they are leaving.

As a kid growing up I remember hearing my dad and uncles would call other dudes brothaman when they would see them and give each other some skin

I think that's just a south/southern thing though..... Like if u out n about and (not that you trying to do this so FUCK Y'ALL IN ADVANCE and NO HOMO) you happen to make eye contact with someone you'll give them a head nod, a "sup?" or "iiiigggghht" or something like that.

Shit like that might start a fight in other parts of the country.

I got a homie from the Bronx and he told me when he first got here that shit took some getting used to. He was like "man back home we do some shit like that n n*ggas would step to you and tell you to meet them under the platforms to box...."

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[playahaitian]

this. down south, outside of the drug turf battle, brothers speak, acknowledge, & show basic respect to each other.

when I lived in Jersey & spoke, made eye contact, etc, brothers either gave me the poker face, slight head nod, or didn't acknowledge me at all.



Max's Samsung OG-Note 1

Anytime im out and about I always speak or dap up the fellas... older cats we do firm handshakes and talk about the food spots they are leaving.

As a kid growing up I remember hearing my dad and uncles would call other dudes brothaman when they would see them and give each other some skin

I think that's just a south/southern thing though..... Like if u out n about and (not that you trying to do this so FUCK Y'ALL IN ADVANCE and NO HOMO) you happen to make eye contact with someone you'll give them a head nod, a "sup?" or "iiiigggghht" or something like that.

Shit like that might start a fight in other parts of the country.

I got a homie from the Bronx and he told me when he first got here that shit took some getting used to. He was like "man back home we do some shit like that n n*ggas would step to you and tell you to meet them under the platforms to box...."

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We need to bring some of that southern hospitality up north for real.

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

It pretty much depends on where you come from. But being the bastard children of an entire country can give anyone a bit of a harder edge. We are the unwanted children of a nation. But that's an obstacle we have to get over. Bastard children either learn to use that unwantedness to push them to become something great or they let it eat at them and become more bitter and full of hate. We need to make sure we are transforming that negative energy this nation has given us into something positive instead of recycling that negative energy, especially among ourselves.​

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

We need to bring some of that southern hospitality up north for real.

depends what part of the north,because like I said..I always say whats up to someone,after they say hi to me..Its usually a guy around my age or older and a woman older than me,who does it.Hell,sometimes I may start a conversation to see how the person is doing and they do the same thing to me...

Its usually the women around my age and younger,who be on that bullshit....

 

[Onetyme]

I show respect and get respect... However I'd like to see more of it in general.

This^^^^^

 

[playahaitian]

It pretty much depends on where you come from. But being the bastard children of an entire country can give anyone a bit of a harder edge. We are the unwanted children of a nation. But that's an obstacle we have to get over. Bastard children either learn to use that unwantedness to push them to become something great or they let it eat at them and become more bitter and full of hate. We need to make sure we are transforming that negative energy this nation has given us into something positive instead of recycling that negative energy, especially among ourselves.​

^^^^

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Taking a second to smile, acknowledge, or speak IS action! It's just the first step.

A thousand mile journey begins with a single step.

I disagree. And i have proof. I've seen a man who started in his community getting people to do things and he didn't nod at people. He often had a scowl on his face because he was a thinker. But people got together with him because they saw him IN action. They saw him buy machinery to dig up roots. They saw him working. And then when he went door to door to ask for help. To ask people to keep a look out at least. The sight of a black man doing things gets other people moving.

If i come across any brother/sister in need i try my best to help i see so many blacks not helping each other because of this and that, all the while white folks could hate each other but would rather help they own before my black ass!

Now there are some bitch ass black (which ever the wind blows) type fuckers out there but i just help them at a distance if i can.

Exactly. Black people would rather live with whites. Shop with whites. Give their money to whites. Everything else with whites except help each other. I believe it's because we've become inherently selfish as a people.

We need to bring some of that southern hospitality up north for real.

You need to bring some self awareness and self determination. head nodding and all the rest? You guys are missing the mark. The thing up there in Missouri. THAT was a proper step. When black men stopped violence among their own. When they stopped people from breaking into stuff.

THAT was action. That was hospitality. You guys need to patrol your own. Self governance. Women see men doing it and women as they have since fucking "Lucy" will FOLLOW.

 

[playahaitian]

You need to bring some self awareness and self determination. head nodding and all the rest? You guys are missing the mark. The thing up there in Missouri. THAT was a proper step. When black men stopped violence among their own. When they stopped people from breaking into stuff.

THAT was action. That was hospitality. You guys need to patrol your own. Self governance. Women see men doing it and women as they have since fucking "Lucy" will FOLLOW.

I understand what you saying.

but using MO as a talking point

rioting and destroying our OWN property is NOT the answer.

And these cacs got TANKS.

I am no loner a proponent of peaceful resistance either.

But the fact that they ARE uniting is a good sign.

andI also understand that if they HAD NOT rioted they wouldnt have received ANY of the media attention they have gotten since...

But look just on bgol what happened when those photos from inside the store were released...

BLACK people immediately went left and started blaming the VICTIM like he deserved it...like as Black men we need to be careful of every step cause if we get out of line the MAN will check us and we DESERVE it.

But a WHITE criminal...

he all right, he gets the cuffs miranda and a nice cool beverage

Of course we ALL want instant sweeping change but you yourself KNOW that aint gonna happen and you have given evidence to support that.

I even had a thread about how we can't even stand in line for he bus in certain areas!

All I am saying is if we can't even do something SIMPLE and BASIC as ACKNOWLEDGE each other civilly how in the hell are we supposed to unite to do ANYTHING?

 

[Mello Mello]

#BlackMenGreetings

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

I've been looking for this thread