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cli-terminator

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They don't mention how this is going to be proven. At least not that I could locate. In typical Government fashion there is no rhyme or reason. Several statements that contradict the statement before. Several sentences that leave much to interpretation. My plan is to hold for a few days until the dust settles... I'm somewhat certain that there will be an injunction, reigning in the mass hysteria and kneejerk reactions... Hopefully.

Have you taken a look at the amnesty e-file page?
Yeah I took a look. That's where I saw that the pic of said firearm is a required field. I'm probably gonna wait it out just like how a lot of ppl did for bump stocks. I already know there will be lawsuits filed against this ruling.
 

Stix-N-Stonz

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They don't mention how this is going to be proven. At least not that I could locate. In typical Government fashion there is no rhyme or reason. Several statements that contradict the statement before. Several sentences that leave much to interpretation. My plan is to hold for a few days until the dust settles... I'm somewhat certain that there will be an injunction, reigning in the mass hysteria and kneejerk reactions... Hopefully.

Have you taken a look at the amnesty e-file page?
Seriously I read it last night, and it just goes in circles.
 

cli-terminator

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Went with a Diamondback 4-12x40 scope. I'll be shooting suppressed subs so it's unlikely i'll be going beyond 150yds. No need to invest in a higher end scope to get the job done

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cli-terminator

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Thanks, that's what I thought.

I'd like to try a .300 BLK pistol. Not sure what length, maybe 9" or 7".
I'd like to keep total barrel + suppressor length around 10.5"-14"
My barrel length is 10" and with my Omega 300 is around the length of a regular AR. I didn't wanna go shorter cuz I wanted to be at the optimal barrel length to get 100% powder burn and not end up with a flame thrower
 

PsiBorg

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Thanks, that's what I thought.

I'd like to try a .300 BLK pistol. Not sure what length, maybe 9" or 7".
I'd like to keep total barrel + suppressor length around 10.5"-14"
If you go with a 7" barrel, you may have to adjust your buffer spring. You want to make sure that the weapon can cycle properly.

I have a 10" barrel, and it's perfect for me. I'm in California, so we can't have suppressors... that really sucks. :smh:

I'd love to run my shit suppressed.
 

dHustla

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General consensus is 9" for supers and subs. some folks say 10" I went with 9". I run it suppressed and get very little fireballing
Cool. What's your total length with barrel & suppressor?
Typically, 8-10". I decided to run 8" on my most recent build. But I have a 5.5" Maxim Defense PDX.
Cool, so 9" is good. Your 8" still run good? Fireball? Total barrel & suppressor length?
5.5"?! What's the plan for it? Suppressed?

10" for full powder burn. Shorter the barrel the more unburned powder you have left over resulting in the burst out the barrel like a loud flamethrower. Any more than 10" and you get a lil extra speed but not much more. 300Blk is designed to be shot from short barrels.
Cool. I'd like to keep it very similar to an 11.5" pistol.

Is it worth it to run subs in a non-suppressed 9" .300BLK?
 

dHustla

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If you go with a 7" barrel, you may have to adjust your buffer spring. You want to make sure that the weapon can cycle properly.

I have a 10" barrel, and it's perfect for me. I'm in California, so we can't have suppressors... that really sucks. :smh:

I'd love to run my shit suppressed.
Thanks y'all for the feedback. I'll probably go with 9" then maybe a short can. I want the pistol to be short, around 11-14" total barrel + can.
Maybe I'm dreaming :dunno:
 

cli-terminator

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Cool. What's your total length with barrel & suppressor?

Cool, so 9" is good. Your 8" still run good? Fireball? Total barrel & suppressor length?
5.5"?! What's the plan for it? Suppressed?


Cool. I'd like to keep it very similar to an 11.5" pistol.

Is it worth it to run subs in a non-suppressed 9" .300BLK?
No. You'd just be wasting ammo. You won't really get to enjoy the benefits the suppressor gives from shooting subsonic ammo and you lose range cuz the subs won't travel as far
 

Stix-N-Stonz

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Cool. What's your total length with barrel & suppressor?

Cool, so 9" is good. Your 8" still run good? Fireball? Total barrel & suppressor length?
5.5"?! What's the plan for it? Suppressed?


Cool. I'd like to keep it very similar to an 11.5" pistol.

Is it worth it to run subs in a non-suppressed 9" .300BLK?

My total length currently with the Rex Silentium MG7 is 9"(barrel)+
5.6"(can)=14.6"

With the Sandman K its 9"+5.4"=14.4"

With the Omega 9K its 9"+4.7"=13.7"

With the AAC 762 SDN-6 its 9"+7.6"=16.6"

I honestly think a 10" barrel is the sweet spot for powder burn with 300blk, but it also depends on the can. My Sandman-K is not designed for quiet, its made for fighting, so its the loudest and has the biggest flame. But they make a flash hider endcap for it that only adds like 2mm of length, but tames that fireball tremendously. My MG7 and Omega 9K do much better jobs because of their extra volume (think diameter) and baffles. And they also don't have swappable endcaps. The AAC tones that shit waaay down but its heavy and long, its old tech really.

300blk really shines using subs/suppressed out of an sbr, its pretty much what it was made for. It is not worth it to run it unsurpressed, but you may consider QD mounts (think muzzle brakes/flash hiders/hybrid comps) in case you get a baffle strike or something and have to send it in for repairs, so you can still use your weapon. I use muzzle brakes on all my cans except the Surefire RC2 which uses a flash hider. On the RC2, it gets a better gas seal with Surefires flash hider versus their Warcomps and brakes, but that is an exception to the rule. I use brakes because the brake baffles act as sacrificial baffles to prolong the life of the can.

If I had to do it all over again though I'd just get a SIG MCX, but I still love my little 300 its my favorite.
 
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dHustla

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I use muzzle brakes on all my cans except the Surefire RC2 which uses a flash hider. On the RC2, it gets a better gas seal with Surefires flash hider versus their Warcomps and brakes, but that is an exception to the rule. I use brakes because the brake baffles act as sacrificial baffles to prolong the life of the can.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. You use muzzle brakes on the ends of the cans? Or the cans attach to the muzzle brakes on barrel?
If I had to do it all over again though I'd just get a SIG MCX, but I still love my little 300 its my favorite.
Thanks for this, thats another option I'm considering. I know Sig costs more than I can build one and I don't get that experience, but I do get the benefit of expert R&D as well as assembly.
 

cli-terminator

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I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. You use muzzle brakes on the ends of the cans? Or the cans attach to the muzzle brakes on barrel?

Thanks for this, thats another option I'm considering. I know Sig costs more than I can build one and I don't get that experience, but I do get the benefit of expert R&D as well as assembly.
I can't speak for other cans but my Omega 300 attaches to both my 300Blk AR & 300Blk bolt-action via muzzle brake that's designed to use the same mounting system. This way it locks into place. I have a flash hider on my 5.56 that has the same mounting system so I can mount my can on it too
 

Stix-N-Stonz

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I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. You use muzzle brakes on the ends of the cans? Or the cans attach to the muzzle brakes on barrel?

Yup, the muzzle device (brake, flash hider) attaches to the end of the barrel. Then you attach the can to the muzzle device. And like @cli-terminator says above, its nice to have the same mounting system on multiple weapons, so you can use the can on multiple weapons.
 

dHustla

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Still holding in hopes of an injunction. But...I have complied all of the necessary info, incase this shit goes tits up. I have several class III items, so the prospect of "free" stamps does have me intrigued. However, as we all know full well. Nothing is really "free".
:confused:
I'm not familiar with class III or how it relates to this new ruling
 

Stix-N-Stonz

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:confused:
I'm not familiar with class III or how it relates to this new ruling
Class 3 items are another name for NFA (National Firearms Act) items, like short barreled rifles/shotguns, machine guns, silencers, Any Other Weapons, destructive devices like grenades and rockets. How it relates to this ruling affects weapons that are currently classified as pistols (like Dracos, or rifle caliber pistols) that the ATF had previously told us we could put a brace on and it will still be a pistol. The new ruling is them changing their mind about the braces, and saying the brace makes that pistol an SBR (short barrel rifle) now. Having an unregistered SBR is a felony and is punishable by up to $10k or 10 years in prison.
The ATF is offering pistol brace users 120 days of anmesty to register their weapons and not have to pay the $200 tax normally imposed to have a class 3 item.
 
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Mrboogieallnight

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Class 3 items are another name for NFA (National Firearms Act) items, like short barreled rifles/shotguns, machine guns, silencers, Any Other Weapons, destructive devices like grenades and rockets. How it relates to this ruling affects weapons that are currently classified as pistols (like Dracos, or rifle caliber pistols) that the ATF had previously told us we could put a brace on and it will still be a pistol. The new ruling is them changing their mind about the braces, and saying the brace makes that pistol an SBR (short barrel rifle) now. Having an unregistered SBR is a felony and is punishable by up to $10k or 10 years in prison.
The ATF is offering pistol brace users 120 days of anmesty to register their weapons and not have to pay the $200 tax normally imposed to have a class 3 item. People like myself who have paid thousands in $200 tax stamps alone, are intrigued by the idea of getting more tax stamps without paying $200 each time.
So does this only apply to only rifles that are pistols? What about PCC with braces? Are they exempt?
 
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