Hollywood News: WGA Battle - The Hollywood Fight That’s Tearing Apart Writers & Agents UPDATE: 2023 Strike OVER but SAG still at it!

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A huge fucking problem. :lol:
It's really fucked up. Because YouTube shows still entertaining as fuck and the cold truth is that these writers are over fucking rated. So I understand other people have to get paid and Maher wants to continue, but at the same time folks coming back will show writers are really a dime a dozen and gatekeepers got them feeling themselves. As if any fucking exec who sees the success of indie content needs to find that out.

And those of us who consume entertainment like zoomers do already know the deal. Of course, we are ignored similar to how us cord cutters were ignored 10-13 years ago. A lot of people just can't understand shifts from old models.
 

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A huge fucking problem. :lol:

It's really fucked up. Because YouTube shows still entertaining as fuck and the cold truth is that these writers are over fucking rated. So I understand other people have to get paid and Maher wants to continue, but at the same time folks coming back will show writers are really a dime a dozen and gatekeepers got them feeling themselves. As if any fucking exec who sees the success of indie content needs to find that out.

And those of us who consume entertainment like zoomers do already know the deal. Of course, we are ignored similar to how us cord cutters were ignored 10-13 years ago. A lot of people just can't understand shifts from old models.

Yeah Imma have to put you on suspension till November homie.

the shots at the rat aint nothing but you going at my people them now.
 

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A huge fucking problem. :lol:

It's really fucked up. Because YouTube shows still entertaining as fuck and the cold truth is that these writers are over fucking rated. So I understand other people have to get paid and Maher wants to continue, but at the same time folks coming back will show writers are really a dime a dozen and gatekeepers got them feeling themselves. As if any fucking exec who sees the success of indie content needs to find that out.

And those of us who consume entertainment like zoomers do already know the deal. Of course, we are ignored similar to how us cord cutters were ignored 10-13 years ago. A lot of people just can't understand shifts from old models.

He is only doing the panel, nothing written:

"I will honor the spirit of the strike by not doing a monologue, desk piece, New Rules or editorial, the written pieces that I am so proud of on Real Time. And I’ll say it upfront to the audience: the show I will be doing without my writers will not be as good as our normal show, full stop. But the heart of the show is an off-the-cuff panel discussion that aims to cut through the bullshit and predictable partisanship, and that will continue. The show will not disappoint."

 

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Yeah Imma have to put you on suspension till November homie.

the shots at the rat aint nothing but you going at my people them now.
:lol: Tell your people to step their game up. All us 'toxic' fans been talking about these shit writers and product for years now. And they been taking about us and telling us to kick rocks and we have.The math supports us 'toxic' fans, not the writers(or the studios who keep letting them tank their products).

I've never belonged to one, but I am aware unions serve multiple purposes. With certain professions, it is to protect workers who are easily replaced. Cold reality is these writers ain't who they think they are. Deep down, studios know this -- or at least they should by now.
 

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:lol: Tell your people to step their game up. All us 'toxic' fans been talking about these shit writers and product for years now. And they been taking about us and telling us to kick rocks and we have.The math supports us 'toxic' fans, not the writers(or the studios who keep letting them tank their products).

I've never belonged to one, but I am aware unions serve multiple purposes. With certain professions, it is to protect workers who are easily replaced. Cold reality is these writers ain't who they think they are. Deep down, studios know this -- or at least they should by now.

Bro you too good to keep including yourself with these toxic fools.

Trust me it ain't a myth it ain't exaggerated

Most of these so called fans are suckers and bullies talking loud saying nothing

I grew up with they pops and grandparents they were borderline suckers then too.

They?

Aint YOU.

don't associate with them on any level.

And trust the creatives I run with?

Aint no run of the mill.

Hell one of my friends just gotta another novel deal talented as f*ck. It's just IMPOSSIBLE to get thru the door.

and I shouldn't drop this on here imma pm you later but even my kids getting writing offers let me leave it there.

Don't let these lame no talent hacks sully the whole industry

Cause we could do that with everyone and everything.

But all that being said toxic fans are also being used as a cop out and excuse for lazy writing.
 

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Bro you too good to keep including yourself with these toxic fools.

Trust me it ain't a myth it ain't exaggerated

Most of these so called fans are suckers and bullies talking loud saying nothing

I grew up with they pops and grandparents they were borderline suckers then too.

They?

Aint YOU.

don't associate with them on any level.

And trust the creatives I run with?

Aint no run of the mill.

Hell one of my friends just gotta another novel deal talented as f*ck. It's just IMPOSSIBLE to get thru the door.

and I shouldn't drop this on here imma pm you later but even my kids getting writing offers let me leave it there.

Don't let these lame no talent hacks sully the whole industry

Cause we could do that with everyone and everything.

But all that being said toxic fans are also being used as a cop out and excuse for lazy writing.
I'm just as 'toxic' as them though. I say the same exact shit about sticking to source material, no blatant messaging(don't you miss the old days when messages were in but we had to catch them), etc. My larger point is when I make points you get a glimpse into what SOME of us who have taken our money away from this our really thinking instead of the labels put on us.

As you seen with me, most of us are eager to support shit or give credit where it is due. The narrative that we just hate just isn't true. It's created by those pumping out this bullshit. Yeah, there are some straight haters out there, but it's been proven time and time again that the 'toxic' fans will spend money on what we feel are worthy products. We the ones help build this shit for DECADES. We haven't changed, the product has. To the point of this thread, THE WRITING has.

And don't take me saying 'writers are a dime a dozen' as saying there isn't talent out there. My point is that talent is way more abundant than people have been trained to believe. Gatekeepers just made it harder for people to 'get on'. AI about to even the playing field for both studios and indies. WAG caught in the crossfire. They are falling victim to what other industries have before them: Technology.

Congrats on your kids man. Wish them success.
 

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In a new statement to EW, a CBS spokesperson wrote: "As The Drew Barrymore Show returns with original episodes on Monday we are very mindful and sensitive to the complex circumstances surrounding the show's return and we will be in full compliance with all our labor agreements and any strike rules. Our host works under a separate agreement with SAG-AFTRA ("The Network Code") that allows Drew and other daytime hosts to continue hosting the show. While our show has been largely an unscripted talk show from the beginning, the new shows we are producing this season will be completely unscripted until the strike ends. No one on our staff will fill a writing position. If you watch the show, it is obvious that Drew has always brought raw, unfiltered, spontaneous, open and honest conversations to her viewers and that will continue. The show also moves forward with important consideration to our staff and crew comprised of over 150 people, as well as our loyal viewers. We fully support Drew and her entire team 100%."
 

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Drew Barrymore announces her talk show will not return until writers' strike ends after backlash​


"I have listened to everyone, and I am making the decision to pause the show's premiere until the strike is over."
By Shania RussellSeptember 17, 2023 at 11:16 AM EDT




Drew Barrymore is officially hitting "pause" on production of her daytime talk show.
After days of enduring backlash surrounding her decision to resume The Drew Barrymore Show amid the writers' and actors' strikes, the host announced that she will no longer move forward with new episodes until the strikes end.
"I have listened to everyone, and I am making the decision to pause the show's premiere until the strike is over," Barrymore wrote on social media Sunday. "I have no words to express my deepest apologies to anyone I have hurt and, of course, to our incredible team who works on the show and has made it what it is today."

She added, "We really tried to find our way forward. And I truly hope for a resolution for the entire industry very soon."

Barrymore announced plans last week for her Daytime Emmy–winning show to resume production without its three Writers Guild of America writers who, along with the rest of their union, have been on strike since May, demanding higher wages, clearer contract provisions, and more.
The star quickly became the center of controversy, earning criticism from striking members of the WGA and the Screen Actors Guild – American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA), in addition to others of the industry. Following her decision, the National Book Foundation also rescinded its invitation for Barrymore to host its annual awards event.
Her show resumed filming last week as picketers protested the choice outside the CBS Broadcast Center in New York. Some audience members said they were escorted out of tapings for wearing WGA-branded pins. A spokesperson for the show told EW in a statement that Barrymore was "completely unaware of the incident" and that their team is "in the process of reaching out to the affected audience members to offer them new tickets."

WASHINGTON, DC - MARCH 19: Drew Barrymore attends the 2023 Mark Twain Prize for American Humor presentation at The Kennedy Center on March 19, 2023 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Taylor Hill/WireImage)

Drew Barrymore

| CREDIT: TAYLOR HILL/WIREIMAGE
Barrymore initially defended her decision in a now-removed video she posted on Friday, explaining, "This is bigger than me and there other peoples' jobs on the line."
She continued, "I weighed the scales and I thought if we could go on during a global pandemic and everything that the world experienced through 2020, why would this sideline us? I just wanted to just put one foot in front of the other and make a show that's there for people regardless of anything else that's happening in the world."
Barrymore, a member of SAG-AFTRA, insisted that the show's return was "in compliance with not discussing or promoting film and television that is struck of any kind," according to strike rules. When season 4 was first announced, a CBS spokesperson confirmed to EW that the series would "not be performing any writing work covered by the WGA strike."
While Barrymore herself was not in violation as the series' host — daytime talk shows fall under a separate contract, the Network Television Code contract — resuming production meant that it left its writers behind. As the WGA-East announced on social media, "The [Drew Barrymore Show] is a WGA-covered, struck show that is planning to return without its writers… Any writing on The Drew Barrymore Show is in violation of WGA strike rules."
Cristina Kinon, a writer for the show, told The Daily Beast that she was disappointed to see Barrymore resume production on the series without its writing team. "It is frustrating," she said, "because it will prolong the strike, and we just want it to end."
When news broke that the series was coming back for a fourth season, CBS issued a statement to EW. "While our show has been largely an unscripted talk show from the beginning, the new shows we are producing this season will be completely unscripted until the strike ends," it read in part. "No one on our staff will fill a writing position. If you watch the show, it is obvious that Drew has always brought raw, unfiltered, spontaneous, open, and honest conversations to her viewers, and that will continue. The show also moves forward with important consideration to our staff and crew comprised of over 150 people, as well as our loyal viewers. We fully support Drew and her entire team 100 percent."
The show was set to return with new episodes on Monday, Sept. 18.
 

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Did launching during the strikes have an impact on promoting season two? Obviously HBO has the ability to spend more for marketing, and the Max app can lead audience to the show, but not having the cast out there to promote the episodes each week probably made a difference.
One hundred percent. We were able to do our junket right before the strike, but we have a big ensemble cast — the Oscar-winning movie stars and new actors — that are all exciting to talk to when you promote a show like ours. It’s not centered on one person. We have a lot of assets to help promote the show and we weren’t able to employ any of them. Yeah, that was definitely a frustration for us.

 

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Drew Barrymore announces her talk show will not return until writers' strike ends after backlash​


"I have listened to everyone, and I am making the decision to pause the show's premiere until the strike is over."
By Shania RussellSeptember 17, 2023 at 11:16 AM EDT




Drew Barrymore is officially hitting "pause" on production of her daytime talk show.
After days of enduring backlash surrounding her decision to resume The Drew Barrymore Show amid the writers' and actors' strikes, the host announced that she will no longer move forward with new episodes until the strikes end.
"I have listened to everyone, and I am making the decision to pause the show's premiere until the strike is over," Barrymore wrote on social media Sunday. "I have no words to express my deepest apologies to anyone I have hurt and, of course, to our incredible team who works on the show and has made it what it is today."

She added, "We really tried to find our way forward. And I truly hope for a resolution for the entire industry very soon."

Barrymore announced plans last week for her Daytime Emmy–winning show to resume production without its three Writers Guild of America writers who, along with the rest of their union, have been on strike since May, demanding higher wages, clearer contract provisions, and more.
The star quickly became the center of controversy, earning criticism from striking members of the WGA and the Screen Actors Guild – American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA), in addition to others of the industry. Following her decision, the National Book Foundation also rescinded its invitation for Barrymore to host its annual awards event.
Her show resumed filming last week as picketers protested the choice outside the CBS Broadcast Center in New York. Some audience members said they were escorted out of tapings for wearing WGA-branded pins. A spokesperson for the show told EW in a statement that Barrymore was "completely unaware of the incident" and that their team is "in the process of reaching out to the affected audience members to offer them new tickets."

WASHINGTON, DC - MARCH 19: Drew Barrymore attends the 2023 Mark Twain Prize for American Humor presentation at The Kennedy Center on March 19, 2023 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Taylor Hill/WireImage)

Drew Barrymore

| CREDIT: TAYLOR HILL/WIREIMAGE
Barrymore initially defended her decision in a now-removed video she posted on Friday, explaining, "This is bigger than me and there other peoples' jobs on the line."
She continued, "I weighed the scales and I thought if we could go on during a global pandemic and everything that the world experienced through 2020, why would this sideline us? I just wanted to just put one foot in front of the other and make a show that's there for people regardless of anything else that's happening in the world."
Barrymore, a member of SAG-AFTRA, insisted that the show's return was "in compliance with not discussing or promoting film and television that is struck of any kind," according to strike rules. When season 4 was first announced, a CBS spokesperson confirmed to EW that the series would "not be performing any writing work covered by the WGA strike."
While Barrymore herself was not in violation as the series' host — daytime talk shows fall under a separate contract, the Network Television Code contract — resuming production meant that it left its writers behind. As the WGA-East announced on social media, "The [Drew Barrymore Show] is a WGA-covered, struck show that is planning to return without its writers… Any writing on The Drew Barrymore Show is in violation of WGA strike rules."
Cristina Kinon, a writer for the show, told The Daily Beast that she was disappointed to see Barrymore resume production on the series without its writing team. "It is frustrating," she said, "because it will prolong the strike, and we just want it to end."
When news broke that the series was coming back for a fourth season, CBS issued a statement to EW. "While our show has been largely an unscripted talk show from the beginning, the new shows we are producing this season will be completely unscripted until the strike ends," it read in part. "No one on our staff will fill a writing position. If you watch the show, it is obvious that Drew has always brought raw, unfiltered, spontaneous, open, and honest conversations to her viewers, and that will continue. The show also moves forward with important consideration to our staff and crew comprised of over 150 people, as well as our loyal viewers. We fully support Drew and her entire team 100 percent."
The show was set to return with new episodes on Monday, Sept. 18.
Bill Maher better start rethinking his decision..same with Sherri Shepherd :lol:
 
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