Yep. Martin S does the same thing.
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Yep. Martin S does the same thing.
Yeah I get what your saying and I heard about that too...
Apparently the feud between the two Hollywood A-listers began around 1995, when Washington worked on the film “Crimson Tide.” Allegedly, Tarantino, who visited the set of the film, had done an uncredited rewrite of the movie script by adding pop-culture, reference-ladened dialogue that Washington deemed racist. Reportedly, after reviewing the rewrite, Washington did not take too kindly to Tarantino’s presence. The award-winning actor confronted Tarantino and read him the riot act about his constant use of racial slurs in the film.
Tarantino supposedly did not want the heated discussion he was having with Washington to become a public spectacle and urged him to take their talk to a more private setting.
Washington refused to move from the public spot, where they had been arguing, and allegedly told the director in no uncertain terms, “No, if we’re going to discuss it, let’s discuss it now.”
Now Washington is trying to put the reignited scuttlebutt about his disagreement with Tarantino behind him. He told GQ, “Isn’t that interesting how life goes? But I buried that hatchet. I sought him out 10 years ago. I told him, Look, I apologize. You’ve just gotta let that go. You gonna walk around with that the rest of your life? Washington seemed relieved.
Since Washington’s daughter Katia worked with Tarantino, she reportedly did not want her father to discuss the beef, “She doesn’t like me talking about it. And then here we are 10 years later, and my daughter’s working with him. Life is something.”
In the case of Django specifically tho...the time period and characters involved it would have been literally weird to NOT hear the word nigga frequently. It makes MORE sense to hear the word nigga said frequently then than it does TODAY in black pop culture.
I mean if you REEALLY wanna play devils advocate.... when QT uses the n-word in his contemporary flicks like pulp fiction thats how cacs talk when they're alone or around blacks who allow that shit....in Jackie brown thats how black people talk to each other.
again theres much you can get into in criticizing QT but that one point is the weakest issue IMO.
Yeah I get what your saying and I heard about that too...
Apparently the feud between the two Hollywood A-listers began around 1995, when Washington worked on the film “Crimson Tide.” Allegedly, Tarantino, who visited the set of the film, had done an uncredited rewrite of the movie script by adding pop-culture, reference-ladened dialogue that Washington deemed racist. Reportedly, after reviewing the rewrite, Washington did not take too kindly to Tarantino’s presence. The award-winning actor confronted Tarantino and read him the riot act about his constant use of racial slurs in the film.
Tarantino supposedly did not want the heated discussion he was having with Washington to become a public spectacle and urged him to take their talk to a more private setting.
Washington refused to move from the public spot, where they had been arguing, and allegedly told the director in no uncertain terms, “No, if we’re going to discuss it, let’s discuss it now.”
Now Washington is trying to put the reignited scuttlebutt about his disagreement with Tarantino behind him. He told GQ, “Isn’t that interesting how life goes? But I buried that hatchet. I sought him out 10 years ago. I told him, Look, I apologize. You’ve just gotta let that go. You gonna walk around with that the rest of your life? Washington seemed relieved.
Since Washington’s daughter Katia worked with Tarantino, she reportedly did not want her father to discuss the beef, “She doesn’t like me talking about it. And then here we are 10 years later, and my daughter’s working with him. Life is something.”
In the case of Django specifically tho...the time period and characters involved it would have been literally weird to NOT hear the word nigga frequently. It makes MORE sense to hear the word nigga said frequently then than it does TODAY in black pop culture.
I mean if you REEALLY wanna play devils advocate.... when QT uses the n-word in his contemporary flicks like pulp fiction thats how cacs talk when they're alone or around blacks who allow that shit....in Jackie brown thats how black people talk to each other.
again theres much you can get into in criticizing QT but that one point is the weakest issue IMO.
Nah. You're making an excuse about a, white boy that adds ****** to his movies just because. Adding it doesn't do anything to the characters. It doesn't round them out in any way. He just likes having characters.....and let's be clear WHITE CHARACTERS...say it in his movies cause he thinks it's cool.
Y'all gotta stop giving problematic white boys a pass.
I meant gay dudes. But you right.
Yeap... Most people missed it.
It sounds like it hit home.
I thought, why did he shoot the boy's mother? It was unnecessary, but he wanted to hurt his father as deeply as he could without killing the boy.
He could have tortured the fuck out of him, which I probably would have done.
Like you said, you had it in you to be good but you chose to take your shit out on us. It hit home for me as well. Every time I wash my father interact with my neighbor who he treated more like a son than he treated me, I would feel that way
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You are right here. That part seemed odd and spoke to the pacing problem I felt on the first go around.
I get why they did it. They need a reason for Nat to town and for Rufus to have leverage over him. Feels like they could have done something different.
Still liked the movie nevertheless
I was boredI guess I'm the only one here who
didn't give it a 9 or 10. It wasn't a
terrible movie, it just wasn't what
I expected i guess.
I expected more.
Wiley Esco dropped dime on Buck and got him locked up. Also he was in their pocket and he sold out the city in favor of settlement.
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That made him a snitch and a traitor, not a coon.
now mofos are action choreography experts...We set the bar so low for others while having a ridiculously high standard for ourselves.
Aye if selling a whole town of your people out to white settlement for soley your own financial gain doesn't make him a coon.....
I must've slept on that detail.
I'm not giving anyone a pass...youre acting like white people don't say nigga behind closed doors and thats not supposed to be reflected in their movies depicting how people talk in real life... come on dude.
Tarantino said his mother dated black men and they would usually take him to the movies on the black side of town when he was a kid...this would explain him being enamored with Blaxploitation and all things afro. Is that an excuse? no but it explains where it comes from. You don't like it and that fine...all I'm saying is IMO its a minor issue at best compared to other things in that dude's career.
Tarantino is CLEVER at BEST in his style and film aesthetic. He doesn't make movies about subjects he makes movies about MOVIES.
He has no voice. Nothing in his films is from him. There are websites dedicated to dissecting his films and showing what scenes and lines came from what other film and there are number of lines from his films that are lifted directly from other films. For this reason I call tarantino a clever hack.
In an interview he even says that Django Unchained isn't HIS vision its Reggie Hudlin's. Yet Hudlin didn't write it or direct it. On top of that its a direct rift off 70s Fred Williamson cowboy films. And every actor thats worked with him says the same thing about his directing style. something like: "This scene is like that tracking shot in the Maltese Falcon and this scene is that scene from The Wild Bunch where they shot up the saloon and this scene is that slowmotion scene from A Clockwork Orange were Alex cuts his friend's hand.." Everything from someone else's vision or statement so whats from him?
He's clever in the way Dr Dre is clever...taking whole chunks of other peoples finished works and putting your own slight spin on it. This is the main issue for people who don't like rap music to gripe about. Its like giving credit to Dre for the "beat" on Nuthin But A G Thang... All he did was use the intro to Leon Haywards I Wanta Do Something Freaky To You..looped it added some accents to it and the most original thing was the actual lyrics over it.
The difference between genius and clever is if Dre had created that bass groove and music originally himself he'd be a genius but his using it in the manner he did makes him very clever. Tarantino's the same way. In fact he's called his film style a "hip-hop aesthetic".
Of course his films are cool and popular you can't go too wrong using the coolest and best scenes, shots and lines of other movies people already like.
I'm STILL trying to figure out how this nigga keeps winning best ORIGINAL screenplay oscars when he rips whole dialog from other films and sources...
Tarantino ripped off the observation of Clark Kent/Superman form Jules Feiffer published in 1965, the first serious examination of superhero comic books:
Previous heroes-- the Shadow, the Green Hornet, the Lone Ranger-- were not only more vulnerable; they were fakes. I don't mean to criticize; it's just a statement of fact. The Shadow had to cloud men's minds to be in business. The Green Hornet had to go through the fetishist fol-de-rol of donning costume, floppy hat, black mask, gas gun, menacing automobile, and insect sound effects before he was even ready to go out in the street. The Lone Ranger needed an accoutremental white horse, an Indian, and an establishing cry of Hi-Yo Silver to separate him from all those other masked men running around the West in days of yesteryear.
But Superman had only to wake up in the morning to be Superman. In his case, Clark Kent was the put-on. The fellow with the eyeglasses and the acne and the walk girls laughed at wasn't real, didn't exist, was a sacrificial disguise, an act of discreet martyrdom. Had they but known!...
... Kent existed not for the purpose of the story but for the reader. He is Superman's opinion of the rest of us, a pointed caricature of what we, the noncriminal element, were really like. His fake identity was our real one. That's why we loved him so. For if that wasn't really, us, if there were no Clark Kents, only lots of glasses and cheap suits which, when removed, revealed all of us in our true identities-- what a hell of an improved world it would have been!
Tarantino's version in Kill Bill:
Now, a staple of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When that character wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic Superman stands alone. Superman didn't become Superman. Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears - the glasses, the business suit - that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent. He's weak... he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race.
The bible verse quote in Pulp Fiction was ripped from another MOVIE not the bible...Sonny Chiba - The Bodygaurd:
The path of the righteous man and defender is beset on all sides by the iniquity of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper, and the father of lost children. And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious anger, who poison and destroy my brothers; and they shall know that I am Chiba the Bodyguard when I shall lay my vengeance upon them!
— Ezekiel 25:17
An altered version of the same passage (mainly substituting "I am Chiba the Bodyguard" with "my name is the Lord"), complete with erroneous attribution to Ezekiel by the character of Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) appears in Quentin Tarantino's 1994 film Pulp Fiction.
“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.”
Whats funny is there are HUNDREDS of web sites that dedicate pages to dissecting and interpreting that line and what tarantino must have meant when he used various verses from the bible and how the character is shaped by his spiritual beliefs and blah blah....QT wasn't flipping thru books of the old testament piecing together verses for some deep layered structure of his character HE JUST TOOK THE LINE FROM ANOTHER MOVIE
The dude isn't as deep as people have been making him out to be for the last 30 years and he's been getting awarded and praised for that shit... oh yeah and he likes to say the word nigga alot too....
Oh damn Ima have to see that again
What you have to ask, actually you don't because since Quentin Tarantino is white you knowI'm not giving anyone a pass...youre acting like white people don't say nigga behind closed doors and thats not supposed to be reflected in their movies depicting how people talk in real life... come on dude.
Tarantino said his mother dated black men and they would usually take him to the movies on the black side of town when he was a kid...this would explain him being enamored with Blaxploitation and all things afro. Is that an excuse? no but it explains where it comes from. You don't like it and that fine...all I'm saying is IMO its a minor issue at best compared to other things in that dude's career.
Tarantino is CLEVER at BEST in his style and film aesthetic. He doesn't make movies about subjects he makes movies about MOVIES.
He has no voice. Nothing in his films is from him. There are websites dedicated to dissecting his films and showing what scenes and lines came from what other film and there are number of lines from his films that are lifted directly from other films. For this reason I call tarantino a clever hack.
In an interview he even says that Django Unchained isn't HIS vision its Reggie Hudlin's. Yet Hudlin didn't write it or direct it. On top of that its a direct rift off 70s Fred Williamson cowboy films. And every actor thats worked with him says the same thing about his directing style. something like: "This scene is like that tracking shot in the Maltese Falcon and this scene is that scene from The Wild Bunch where they shot up the saloon and this scene is that slowmotion scene from A Clockwork Orange were Alex cuts his friend's hand.." Everything from someone else's vision or statement so whats from him?
He's clever in the way Dr Dre is clever...taking whole chunks of other peoples finished works and putting your own slight spin on it. This is the main issue for people who don't like rap music to gripe about. Its like giving credit to Dre for the "beat" on Nuthin But A G Thang... All he did was use the intro to Leon Haywards I Wanta Do Something Freaky To You..looped it added some accents to it and the most original thing was the actual lyrics over it.
The difference between genius and clever is if Dre had created that bass groove and music originally himself he'd be a genius but his using it in the manner he did makes him very clever. Tarantino's the same way. In fact he's called his film style a "hip-hop aesthetic".
Of course his films are cool and popular you can't go too wrong using the coolest and best scenes, shots and lines of other movies people already like.
I'm STILL trying to figure out how this nigga keeps winning best ORIGINAL screenplay oscars when he rips whole dialog from other films and sources...
Tarantino ripped off the observation of Clark Kent/Superman form Jules Feiffer published in 1965, the first serious examination of superhero comic books:
Previous heroes-- the Shadow, the Green Hornet, the Lone Ranger-- were not only more vulnerable; they were fakes. I don't mean to criticize; it's just a statement of fact. The Shadow had to cloud men's minds to be in business. The Green Hornet had to go through the fetishist fol-de-rol of donning costume, floppy hat, black mask, gas gun, menacing automobile, and insect sound effects before he was even ready to go out in the street. The Lone Ranger needed an accoutremental white horse, an Indian, and an establishing cry of Hi-Yo Silver to separate him from all those other masked men running around the West in days of yesteryear.
But Superman had only to wake up in the morning to be Superman. In his case, Clark Kent was the put-on. The fellow with the eyeglasses and the acne and the walk girls laughed at wasn't real, didn't exist, was a sacrificial disguise, an act of discreet martyrdom. Had they but known!...
... Kent existed not for the purpose of the story but for the reader. He is Superman's opinion of the rest of us, a pointed caricature of what we, the noncriminal element, were really like. His fake identity was our real one. That's why we loved him so. For if that wasn't really, us, if there were no Clark Kents, only lots of glasses and cheap suits which, when removed, revealed all of us in our true identities-- what a hell of an improved world it would have been!
Tarantino's version in Kill Bill:
Now, a staple of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When that character wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic Superman stands alone. Superman didn't become Superman. Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears - the glasses, the business suit - that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent. He's weak... he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race.
The bible verse quote in Pulp Fiction was ripped from another MOVIE not the bible...Sonny Chiba - The Bodygaurd:
The path of the righteous man and defender is beset on all sides by the iniquity of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper, and the father of lost children. And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious anger, who poison and destroy my brothers; and they shall know that I am Chiba the Bodyguard when I shall lay my vengeance upon them!
— Ezekiel 25:17
An altered version of the same passage (mainly substituting "I am Chiba the Bodyguard" with "my name is the Lord"), complete with erroneous attribution to Ezekiel by the character of Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) appears in Quentin Tarantino's 1994 film Pulp Fiction.
“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.”
Whats funny is there are HUNDREDS of web sites that dedicate pages to dissecting and interpreting that line and what tarantino must have meant when he used various verses from the bible and how the character is shaped by his spiritual beliefs and blah blah....QT wasn't flipping thru books of the old testament piecing together verses for some deep layered structure of his character HE JUST TOOK THE LINE FROM ANOTHER MOVIE
The dude isn't as deep as people have been making him out to be for the last 30 years and he's been getting awarded and praised for that shit... oh yeah and he likes to say the word nigga alot too....
But for the sake of arguing you have to ask whether Quentin Tarantino intentionally ripped off or paid homage to those movies
Quentin Tarantino is white, and white people very rarely have an original idea in their whole fucking heads.
White people rip off so much shit that they call original after its repackaged under there more popular name that the world would be astounded by how many inventions and content were partially or completely stolen from Black or some other peoples.
The Chiba Bodyguard thing...fucking wow. Didn't know that, but that just makes my point
I don't know the person he stole it from but I do know Quentin Tarantino and now Tarantino is famous and the person he stole it from is not
Then there is the unintentional
As many of you know, I am an author or rather aspiring author. I honed my craft on you guys writing stories, entering short story contests on this board or coming up with some story to regale you all.
One of the early stories I wrote I posted here first. This is a similar example of Quentin Tarantino. My story is a slight rip off from something I heard years ago when I was a young child, probably 8-10 ish.
I recalled the story and many of the details and creatively I was able to fill in the rest.
I've got absolutely no idea how or where I can find the actual true story, but I used what my ten-year-old mind could recall and built a story from that. The real story would never get the credit if I publish this story, but by that time people will know me as an author
Unlike Tarantino who very clearly intentionally ripped off Chiba, I don't know the origin of The Grizzly but the vast majority of the details are my own. Only the bear, and some details about the maulings aren't mine (see below)
Four Men Attacked By Grizzly, 3 Killed
This is a story of a grizzly bear attack at Yellowstone National Park on four Wisconsin men. Four guys spotted a grizzly, decided to follow it and got more than they bargained for... The Grizzly - By Gordon Oscar Whitten Jason Manning, Dean Winstead, Jared Greene, and Daniel Harding had...
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Another story that I wrote in 2014 in another contest here on BGOL, End of a Nightmare, I wrote about some badass female serial killer and when I posted it someone said, "She sounds like a female Dexter"
At this time I didn't know who the fuck Dexter was. And ironically, I discovered later the drug I used to incapacitate one of the victims in my story was used in season 2 of Dexter.
That's the difference of someone intentionally ripping something off and creating something only to discover that there is something else similar out there
I enjoy the storytelling aspect. Putting a hook in someone and then Reeling them into my sick twisted creative mind. Having them twist and splash about the side of the boat hooked on my story is a pleasure of mine.
The Grizzly is paying homage, my other piece End of a Nightmare, was unintentional.
Quentin Tarantino as you stated is a clever hack who just happens to be more popular then the people whose work he is stealing. He is more knowledgeable of film history than the people who are watching his work who don't realize that it is all stolen from here or there or somewhere from yesteryear
@geechiedan I don't know who the hell you are, but you sir are that dude. Very profound post
I must've slept on that detail.
When Buck comes to talk to him.
Carson, Wiley's own Deputy pulls a gun on him saying Buck wants to talk and "its not a request."
Buck says "you wanna sell this town while I'm gone?"
WE:...."At least I know enough to get mine and get out."
........
Buck: "You know, a man like you would have us all subservient to the end of our days. As long as you can buy a house, a badge and those goddamn gold teeth." (As he takes his gun belt off)
But then Buck embarrassed him, beat his ass and took some of his gold teeth out.....
His joining Nat Love was less about "redemption" but mostly about revenge and ego.......
What disturbs me more about QT is if Spike and Samuel L are no longer cool.because of him.
In that clip with Spike he said Sam ran to QT's defense after Spike publicity criticized him......
If true, that is some sad ass shit
^^^^^^^^now mofos are action choreography experts...We set the bar so low for others while having a ridiculously high standard for ourselves.
I really enjoy the movie. Didn't like the twist but overall I enjoy it alot... This is coming from a person,who hates western movies.
I do find it hilarious that people have an issue with horses being killed though. You mean to tell me that a horse would have survived a bunch of bullets going by them or a cowboy wouldn't shoot a horse in the head to get cover...
I do find it hilarious that people have an issue with horses being killed though. You mean to tell me that a horse would have survived a bunch of bullets going by them or a cowboy wouldn't shoot a horse in the head to get cover...
I was able to appreciate the movie for what it was.
For Mary to think that she could walk up in the spot ignoring that everyone knew that she used to run with old boy and that would be ignored was ignorant or arrogant or a combination of both
Either way it was a bad plan
But the reason behind it was to give a piece of the backstory to treacherous Trudy and how is she became who she was
Now, she could have gone off on her own to think that she could sneak in and sneak out and got caught. That would have been the better visual rather than thinking that she could 10 that she had no Allegiance with the people she used to run with
Again, I was able to appreciate the movie for what it was with all of its strengths and weaknesses, including one of the greatest running backs of all time and Fred Taylor as Stagecoach Mary (Whilst the rest of the cast showed their ASSES, the weakest link by default was Zazie Beatz
She wasn't bad. Actually her battle with Trudy was pretty good, but as I said earlier, if we're talking about the greatest running backs ever (Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith) and someone brings up Fred Taylor, Taylor was good, but only good when compared to the greats
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Zazie is a recognizable face on a budget....
And given Jonathan Majors age they needed a Mary in that range......who else could Jeymes have gotten?
Tessa Thompson?....a little "too" famous (read $$$$)
Alisha Wainwright?....that chick ruined her career to be Justin Timberlakes side piece while filming a movie....so throwing her into an all black cast........
That chick from that one show........(too many to fucking name, but none as recognizable for the cheap like Zazie)
I wish Mary would have been more Brown Skin
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Mary was TDS!!
Damn they lightened Mary with Ms Badu
Damn....so that narrows the field...maybe have DeWanda as Mary instead of a brief cameo as the murdered wife......or Yaya Decosta.....?
And given Jonathan Majors age they needed a Mary in that range......who else could Jeymes have gotten?
Tessa Thompson?....a little "too" famous (read $$$$)
Alisha Wainwright?....that chick ruined her career to be Justin Timberlakes side piece while filming a movie....so throwing her into an all black cast........
That chick from that one show........(too many to fucking name, but none as recognizable for the cheap like Zazie)
I wish Mary would have been more Brown Skin
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Mary was TDS!!
Damn they lightened Mary with Ms Badu
Damn....so that narrows the field...maybe have DeWanda as Mary instead of a brief cameo as the murdered wife......or Yaya Decosta.....?
You can say the same about Townsend and the Wayans……what did Posses do that we hadn’t seen before in westerns?I think thats a might harsh homie considering you don't get THTF without the contributions of the Van Peeples to black cinema.
really?? you overlook Cuffee
Zazie is a recognizable face on a budget....
And given Jonathan Majors age they needed a Mary in that range......who else could Jeymes have gotten?
Tessa Thompson?....a little "too" famous (read $$$$)
Alisha Wainwright?....that chick ruined her career to be Justin Timberlakes side piece while filming a movie....so throwing her into an all black cast........
That chick from that one show........(too many to fucking name, but none as recognizable for the cheap like Zazie)
I wish Mary would have been more Brown Skin
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Mary was TDS!!
Damn they lightened Mary with Ms Badu
Damn....so that narrows the field...maybe have DeWanda as Mary instead of a brief cameo as the murdered wife......or Yaya Decosta.....?
Regina Hall... Not for the age (well, black don't crack), but for my own satisfaction of watching Regina King & Regina Hall rub titties while fighting one another in the battle to determine the best Regina, lol.
I hate when bullets are flying but not hit the horses who is a bigger target than the one who rides him. Cac shit f them hozez
A hip hop feel and style for one....something that THTF definitely adopted.
I thoroughly enjoyed it. Some of the characters really jumped off the screen. Oddly enough Idris character was the one I didn't believe or care for. His accent threw me off most of time and although near the end he claimed he doesn't hide but he stayed in the house while EVERYONE else was outside shooting.
But all in all I was entertained.
But all in all I was entertained.
Tariq didn't make it up, terms been around since slavery. Also...so black women or black people don't sleep with their captives to advance? WAKE UP BOI