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I just watched Coco last week...that's a good ass movie. I did have some deep conversations about Moonlight, but then again, it was a black director and black cast and it got a lot of attention. I'm curious though...and not in an argumentative way, but how do you see this movie having an affect on people's lives and world?
This whole thread on Twitter is LEGENDARY.
I thought it was just this post with Stringer & Wallace.
But they got everyone from The Wire.
c'mon fam we talking and building!
What I mean is, as evidenced in this thread?
Killmonger TOUCHED a nerve
and has MANY Black people asking questions of THEMSELVES and others they haven't really asked before
or felt comfortable disucussing
talk and debate and conversation like that?
has REAL WORLD ramifications.
I had a very REAL conversation about the Middle Passage with my little girl on the train home
that is the 2nd time this month.
She wants to UNDERSTAND all the science talk Shuri spoke
Black women CHEERED on OTHER BLACK WOMAN not only on screen? But throughout the theatre
I saw BEAUTIFUL Black people dressed in PRIDE standing in line with NO ISSUES but love and respect
(ok real talk this fine supa thick Jackie Brown looking sister all dressed in Black with an Afro and SKIN TIGHT turtle neck and jeans got her behind touched by some f*ckboy, her boyfriend? didn't do nothing. I asked her if everything was OK and spoke to the manager for her. the hug that followed and giving me her contact info was merely for networking reasons I assure YOU and more importantly my daughter and nothing to concern her mother with)
there was a 3rd..the white lady in the museum in Killmonger's first scene.
ok...I feel you on the conversations sparked having ramifications. Just wanted to make sure I got where you were coming from.
of course it did motherfucker.
why you aint stop him from killing himself like you stopped Zemo?
ok...I feel you on the conversations sparked having ramifications. Just wanted to make sure I got where you were coming from.
fam I speak like that ON PURPOSE
so I can see where the spys coons and trolls at!
Cause you KNOW they gonna be REAL QUICK to come out on some its just a movie
why ya'll so happy and hyped blah blah
so I gotta hit with the quick one two.
and shut em down.
Ain't nobody read the debate in this thread and think we on some dumb sh*t.
real sh*t going on in here.
TANGIBLE stuff too.
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cuz he was like fuck yo plans, Zemo. He actually respected Killmonger's choice though.
the tangible part is what I was asking to confirm. some cats I've talked to was a little too pie in the sky with their assessment of this film's impact. but real convo and sharing ideas is tangible and can have a real effect. thanks for clarifying.fam I speak like that ON PURPOSE
so I can see where the spys coons and trolls at!
Cause you KNOW they gonna be REAL QUICK to come out on some its just a movie why ya'll so happy and hyped blah blah
so I gotta hit with the quick one two.
and shut em down.
Ain't nobody can read the debate in this thread and think we on some dumb sh*t.
real sh*t going on in here.
TANGIBLE stuff too.
Amazing how pivotal that scene was, never would have thought that based on the trailer.
Yeah I completely undrerstand
the brother Bomani raised this point
and I was disappointed
because if some white boys said the same we wouldn't be so damn literal and dismissive
why can we NOT have a serious conversation about the building our own Wakanda?
It is an IDEA
EVERYTHING starts with a spark.
Haiti revolution wouldn't have happen if they listened to all the reasons they COULD NOT SUCCEED.
It is a GOOD conversation to have
about personal responsibility recesses investment education black dollar banking being INSULAR respecting ALL of our Blackness etc etc...
What pisses me off about that bullsh*t talking point about there is no such thing about Wakands
Yeah WE KNOW.
Its about the IDEA and this backlash is AWFULLY familiar to the hate on Jay Z 4:44
notice a trend here?
Black folks drug dealing shooting killing f*cking drinking money phones?
Fine
Self empowerment?
STUPID
Makes you think.
oh for sure...anything we do that's uplifting and forward thinking has to be nitpicked apart, but the foolishness gets front and center airplay with no questions, then they turn around and throw that same shit back in our face as evidence that we aint shit. its a dirty game, no doubt.
i LOVE this ish. thanks.
Ya'll caught the TRUMP diss in the FIRST after credits scene right?
"Wakanda will no longer watch from the shadows. We cannot. We must not. We will work to be an example of how we as brothers and sisters on this Earth should treat each other. Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe."
I'll quote Michael B Jordan
"Adversary doesn't always equal villain..."
the best stories are about competing agendas
* mic drop
Understand that the Cac's are responsible for all of this. To my African brothers they taught us to hate you and therefore ourselves.
When I first started going to work in Africa the brothers asked me why don't American blacks like them? I told them that the colonizers told us the same shit. I encourage all of us to reach out to each other and place the blame for the division on the cac's. Use this to grow closer.
I'm going to reach out to my co workers in Angola, Ghana and Senegal. Then have some discussions cause this movie puts everything in perspective.
When I first started going to work in Africa the brothers asked me why don't American blacks like them? I told them that the colonizers told us the same shit. I encourage all of us to reach out to each other and place the blame for the division on the cac's. Use this to grow closer.
I'm going to reach out to my co workers in Angola, Ghana and Senegal. Then have some discussions cause this movie puts everything in perspective.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/movies/black-panther-spoilers.html
Did You Watch ‘Black Panther’ This Weekend? Let’s Talk Spoilers
By REGGIE UGWUFEB. 18, 2018
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Now that the director Ryan Coogler and the production designer Hannah Beachler have put an afrofuturist paradise on Marvel’s chessboard, the question is what will the company do with it? Will it become, as some on social media have suggested, the black Star Wars, with spinoff movies and TV shows that further explore the movie’s mythology and cast of characters?
The #BlackExcellence of it all
Photo
Nakia (Lupita Nyong’o) and T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman) go undercover in Busan, South Korea in “Black Panther.” CreditMatt Kennedy/Marvel and Disney
Let’s state the obvious: this movie is very black, possessing a broad-spectrum, Pan-African blackness. There are many small moments that spoke directly to the African-American audience (did your theater erupt when Shuri re-enacted the “What are those?!” meme? Or when she and T’Challa shared that secret handshake?) and still others, like T’Challa’s sandals and the dancing at Warrior Falls, that felt recognizably African. But perhaps the bigger achievement of the movie is just how natural this all felt. It’s an argument for the difference a black director and crew can make on a blockbuster. What small moments or cultural references stood out to you?
Everybody loves Shuri
Photo
Letitia Wright as T’Challa’s tech-obsessed sister Shuri in “Black Panther.” CreditMatt Kennedy/Marvel and Disney
T’Challa’s little sister Shuri — an irreverent tech prodigy who’s part Q from the James Bond movies and part Penny from “Inspector Gadget” — arguably steals the movie. It should be a star-making performance for Letitia Wright (she previously appeared in the most recent season of “Black Mirror” in the episode “Black Museum”). In the comics, Shuri eventually succeeds T’Challa as Black Panther. Might she get her own spinoff movie? Or a teen-oriented cartoon show? At the very least, expect her to play a prominent role in the inevitable sequel.
The Dora Milaje and Wakanda’s women
Photo
Danai Gurira as General Okoye, the leader of the Dora Milaje, in “Black Panther.”CreditMarvel Studios/Disney, via Associated Press
It’s not just the portrayal of the African diaspora in “Black Panther” that pushes boundaries, it’s that of the women. This is the rare superhero movie that doesn’t treat the female characters like ornaments or seasoning and even passes the Bechdel test.
What did you make of Okoye (Danai Gurira of “The Walking Dead”) and her all-female fighting squad? Okoye’s wig-throwing and car-surfing-in-a-red-dress scenes in South Korea were among the film’s most indelible. But was her romance with W’Kabi (Daniel Kaluuya) believable? Was it necessary?
Hello Winston Duke!
Photo
Winston Duke as M’Baku, the leader of the mountain-dwelling Jabari tribe, in “Black Panther.” CreditMarvel/Disney
M’Baku, the chief of the renegade mountain tribe, starts out as a third-tier villain in the movie but ends up being unexpectedly heroic and pivotal to the plot. If not for him, T’Challa would have been belly up in a river somewhere while Killmonger waged World War III from the Wakandan throne.
The 31-year-old actor who plays M’Baku, the Tobagonian-born, American-raised Winston Duke, is a relative unknown (he’s had supporting roles on the TV shows “Person of Interest” and “Modern Family”) but infuses the role with gravitas, wry charm and incendiary wit. If there’s any justice in the world, he’ll be starring in a romcom next year.
Killmonger’s motivation
Photo
Michael B. Jordan and Chadwick Boseman in “Black Panther.” CreditMatt Kennedy/Marvel and Disney
A character that several critics have called the most compelling Marvel villain to date, Erik Killmonger is a unique and thoroughly American revolutionary. His bloodthirsty vision (of sweet revenge for centuries of oppression visited upon African-descended peoples around the world) is provocative because, viewed from the right angle, it offers a convincing approximation of justice.
Was his primary critique of Wakanda — that it has selfishly shirked its responsibilities to other African nations and the diaspora — ultimately correct? Or was T’Challa right that isolation to the point of invisibility was the only way to ensure that Wakanda never met the fate of its subjugated sister nations? Killmonger’s final line: “Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from ships, because they knew death was better than bondage” is among the film’s most trenchant, and one of the hardest to believe actually exists in a Marvel movie.
The white characters
Photo
Martin Freeman plays a sidekick who is the butt of many jokes in “Black Panther.” CreditMarvel/Disney
In a film almost entirely populated by black faces, the two main white characters — one a marauding thief (Andy Serkis as Ulysses Klaue), the other an intermittently useful ally (Martin Freeman as CIA agent Everett Ross) — are a study in contrasts. Ross, the butt of several jokes in the movie (Shuri taunts him as a “colonizer”), exists as a kind of corrective to the “white savior” characters that are standard in earlier Western films about Africans. What did you think of the character and how did your theater react to the jokes at his expense?
Post-credit politics
Photo
Chadwick Boseman as T’Challa, the king of Wakanda, in “Black Panther.” CreditMarvel/Disney
To the politically minded, the Wakanda of “Black Panther” offers an almost too perfect rebuttal to President Trump’s comments in January in which he referred to African nations with a disparaging expletive. (Of course, the film was completed well before those comments were made.)
In the first of two post-credit sequences, T’Challa addresses the United Nations with a speech that includes this line: “The wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers.” Is that a pointed reference to the proposed border wall? Or just an apropos aphorism for Wakanda’s climactic embrace of internationalist foreign policy?
Let us hear your Wakandan war cries about all the things we called out above (and anything we did not) in the comments section.
Did You Watch ‘Black Panther’ This Weekend? Let’s Talk Spoilers
By REGGIE UGWUFEB. 18, 2018
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- Black Panther” like so many vibranium-plated super rhinos.
Here is your official spoiler alert. (I repeat: spoiler alert.) We will be discussing the ins and outs of Marvel Studios’ zeitgeist swallowing, record smashing new stand-alone epic in detail below. If you don’t have a Wakandan stamp in your passport, please wait on the other side of the nylon barrier.
For those of you war dogs who’ve mastered your Warrior Falls dance, let’s talk about the movie’s most memorable moments and burning questions. Have thoughts? Share them in the comments section.
The world of Wakanda
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The film’s first peek at the super-advanced nation of Wakanda. CreditMarvel/Disney
“Black Panther” just feels different than the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies we’ve come to know, and a large part of that is due to its setting. Wakanda is a gleaming metropolis where ancient aesthetics, stunning natural resources and the most advanced technology on earth weave together as part of a rich and distinct tapestry.
The world building starts at the very beginning — with that dazzling animated sequence that illustrates the history of Wakanda and its five tribes — and continues through visually arresting set pieces like the ones at Warrior Falls and the ancestral plane. The New York of the Avengers movies is about as exciting as a strip mall by comparison.
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Continue reading the main story
Now that the director Ryan Coogler and the production designer Hannah Beachler have put an afrofuturist paradise on Marvel’s chessboard, the question is what will the company do with it? Will it become, as some on social media have suggested, the black Star Wars, with spinoff movies and TV shows that further explore the movie’s mythology and cast of characters?
The #BlackExcellence of it all
Photo
Nakia (Lupita Nyong’o) and T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman) go undercover in Busan, South Korea in “Black Panther.” CreditMatt Kennedy/Marvel and Disney
Let’s state the obvious: this movie is very black, possessing a broad-spectrum, Pan-African blackness. There are many small moments that spoke directly to the African-American audience (did your theater erupt when Shuri re-enacted the “What are those?!” meme? Or when she and T’Challa shared that secret handshake?) and still others, like T’Challa’s sandals and the dancing at Warrior Falls, that felt recognizably African. But perhaps the bigger achievement of the movie is just how natural this all felt. It’s an argument for the difference a black director and crew can make on a blockbuster. What small moments or cultural references stood out to you?
Everybody loves Shuri
Photo
Letitia Wright as T’Challa’s tech-obsessed sister Shuri in “Black Panther.” CreditMatt Kennedy/Marvel and Disney
T’Challa’s little sister Shuri — an irreverent tech prodigy who’s part Q from the James Bond movies and part Penny from “Inspector Gadget” — arguably steals the movie. It should be a star-making performance for Letitia Wright (she previously appeared in the most recent season of “Black Mirror” in the episode “Black Museum”). In the comics, Shuri eventually succeeds T’Challa as Black Panther. Might she get her own spinoff movie? Or a teen-oriented cartoon show? At the very least, expect her to play a prominent role in the inevitable sequel.
The Dora Milaje and Wakanda’s women
Photo
Danai Gurira as General Okoye, the leader of the Dora Milaje, in “Black Panther.”CreditMarvel Studios/Disney, via Associated Press
It’s not just the portrayal of the African diaspora in “Black Panther” that pushes boundaries, it’s that of the women. This is the rare superhero movie that doesn’t treat the female characters like ornaments or seasoning and even passes the Bechdel test.
What did you make of Okoye (Danai Gurira of “The Walking Dead”) and her all-female fighting squad? Okoye’s wig-throwing and car-surfing-in-a-red-dress scenes in South Korea were among the film’s most indelible. But was her romance with W’Kabi (Daniel Kaluuya) believable? Was it necessary?
Hello Winston Duke!
Photo
Winston Duke as M’Baku, the leader of the mountain-dwelling Jabari tribe, in “Black Panther.” CreditMarvel/Disney
M’Baku, the chief of the renegade mountain tribe, starts out as a third-tier villain in the movie but ends up being unexpectedly heroic and pivotal to the plot. If not for him, T’Challa would have been belly up in a river somewhere while Killmonger waged World War III from the Wakandan throne.
The 31-year-old actor who plays M’Baku, the Tobagonian-born, American-raised Winston Duke, is a relative unknown (he’s had supporting roles on the TV shows “Person of Interest” and “Modern Family”) but infuses the role with gravitas, wry charm and incendiary wit. If there’s any justice in the world, he’ll be starring in a romcom next year.
Killmonger’s motivation
Photo
Michael B. Jordan and Chadwick Boseman in “Black Panther.” CreditMatt Kennedy/Marvel and Disney
A character that several critics have called the most compelling Marvel villain to date, Erik Killmonger is a unique and thoroughly American revolutionary. His bloodthirsty vision (of sweet revenge for centuries of oppression visited upon African-descended peoples around the world) is provocative because, viewed from the right angle, it offers a convincing approximation of justice.
Was his primary critique of Wakanda — that it has selfishly shirked its responsibilities to other African nations and the diaspora — ultimately correct? Or was T’Challa right that isolation to the point of invisibility was the only way to ensure that Wakanda never met the fate of its subjugated sister nations? Killmonger’s final line: “Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from ships, because they knew death was better than bondage” is among the film’s most trenchant, and one of the hardest to believe actually exists in a Marvel movie.
The white characters
Photo
Martin Freeman plays a sidekick who is the butt of many jokes in “Black Panther.” CreditMarvel/Disney
In a film almost entirely populated by black faces, the two main white characters — one a marauding thief (Andy Serkis as Ulysses Klaue), the other an intermittently useful ally (Martin Freeman as CIA agent Everett Ross) — are a study in contrasts. Ross, the butt of several jokes in the movie (Shuri taunts him as a “colonizer”), exists as a kind of corrective to the “white savior” characters that are standard in earlier Western films about Africans. What did you think of the character and how did your theater react to the jokes at his expense?
Post-credit politics
Photo
Chadwick Boseman as T’Challa, the king of Wakanda, in “Black Panther.” CreditMarvel/Disney
To the politically minded, the Wakanda of “Black Panther” offers an almost too perfect rebuttal to President Trump’s comments in January in which he referred to African nations with a disparaging expletive. (Of course, the film was completed well before those comments were made.)
In the first of two post-credit sequences, T’Challa addresses the United Nations with a speech that includes this line: “The wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers.” Is that a pointed reference to the proposed border wall? Or just an apropos aphorism for Wakanda’s climactic embrace of internationalist foreign policy?
Let us hear your Wakandan war cries about all the things we called out above (and anything we did not) in the comments section.
The theater was NOT clean
manager apologized and explained...
they do NOT have time or man power to clean it FAST enough!
And people staying WELL AFTER the final credits!
manager apologized and explained...
they do NOT have time or man power to clean it FAST enough!
And people staying WELL AFTER the final credits!
‘Black Panther’ Smashes Records With $218 Million at Holiday Weekend Box Office
Disney-Marvel’s “Black Panther” is heading for a super-heroic $218 million debut over the four-day President’s Day weekend at 4,020 North American locations, estimates showed Sunday.
That number means that “Black Panther,” starring Chadwick Boseman and directed by Ryan Coogler, has doubled its original tracking in less than a month. The film, which carries an estimated $200 million production cost, had been tracking to bring in between an impressive $100 and $120 million when first estimates emerged on Jan. 25. Since then, “Black Panther” has become a must-see movie for many moviegoers, underlined when Thursday previews brought in $25.2 million, the largest Thursday night preview gross for a February opener and the second-largest preview gross for a Marvel film.
The film’s estimated three-day gross of $192 million is the highest debut ever for a February film and the fifth highest of all time. Combined with an estimated international debut of $169 million from 69% of the international market, the estimated global debut stands at $361 million through Sunday.
“Black Panther” has demolished the record for the largest Presidents Day weekend, blowing past “Deadpool’s” 2016 mark of $152 million. Overall North American moviegoing for the four-day period should hit $300 million — far above the $278 million mark in 2016, according to comScore.
http://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/black-panther-record-opening-box-office-1202703676/
Disney-Marvel’s “Black Panther” is heading for a super-heroic $218 million debut over the four-day President’s Day weekend at 4,020 North American locations, estimates showed Sunday.
That number means that “Black Panther,” starring Chadwick Boseman and directed by Ryan Coogler, has doubled its original tracking in less than a month. The film, which carries an estimated $200 million production cost, had been tracking to bring in between an impressive $100 and $120 million when first estimates emerged on Jan. 25. Since then, “Black Panther” has become a must-see movie for many moviegoers, underlined when Thursday previews brought in $25.2 million, the largest Thursday night preview gross for a February opener and the second-largest preview gross for a Marvel film.
The film’s estimated three-day gross of $192 million is the highest debut ever for a February film and the fifth highest of all time. Combined with an estimated international debut of $169 million from 69% of the international market, the estimated global debut stands at $361 million through Sunday.
“Black Panther” has demolished the record for the largest Presidents Day weekend, blowing past “Deadpool’s” 2016 mark of $152 million. Overall North American moviegoing for the four-day period should hit $300 million — far above the $278 million mark in 2016, according to comScore.
http://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/black-panther-record-opening-box-office-1202703676/
Is this the thread to talk about the movie? Is the “move, or be moved” woman assigned to the kids? Do they keep a bottle of panther juice like the president and the suitcase?
I think its important for people
particularly OUR people
to be chill on something
JUST because someone
DID NOT THINK this movie was the GREATEST OF ALL TIMES?
doesn't make them suspect
Its art its subjective
AND
just because they aint raving about it
doesn't mean they hating.
Now that being said?
any haters will be sent to the mountains and face M'Baku's wrath
All praise Bast
particularly OUR people
to be chill on something
JUST because someone
DID NOT THINK this movie was the GREATEST OF ALL TIMES?
doesn't make them suspect
Its art its subjective
AND
just because they aint raving about it
doesn't mean they hating.
Now that being said?
any haters will be sent to the mountains and face M'Baku's wrath
All praise Bast
brother Bomani...
I got mad love for you
but you do NOT want to to f*ck around with the panther
that clever smart shit aint gonna play well right now.
listen to me now believe me later on
I got mad love for you
but you do NOT want to to f*ck around with the panther
that clever smart shit aint gonna play well right now.
listen to me now believe me later on
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Look at M'Baku on the left of this shot ready to go to war, I became a fan of this brother after this film.
I been appreciating his characters since he was on "Person of Interest". He was a hood criminal genius. Taking down the mob and any other criminal faction in the city. He was making moves on their and his character pulled it off....
You’re watching me, and you’re not watching what you put in your body.