Just watched BLACK PANTHER and.......

[geechiedan]

Medicinal snow? bro you got me dying laughing over here

Medicinal snow. Cold actually retards the dying process. Ric Flair's life was just saved from a medically-induced coma. It works the same way, just naturally.

Think of it as semi-cryofreeze. You take the molecules and you slow them down to the point where they're barely moving

Medicinal snow you on the internet for the night bro. You on the motherfuking internet I'm still laughing my ass off

especially if he's running a high fever

 

[geechiedan]

I was thinking the exact same thing watching it earlier today. They redefined purple drank for the culture.

 

[BGLR1212000]

Nah it's up there

Up there with what? I've seen it twice at the theater. Black Panther is good in its own right.

 

[godofwine]

Whoever said this was the best superhero movie ever was reaching.

I don't know if I would say the best because there's a lot of superhero movies, too many to digest at this particular juncture. I have to say this has the most plausible storylines in recent history.

When Angela Bassett said my son was murdered, M'Baku said, 'was it fair?' and when she said yes he responded with, "So it was less of a murder and more of a defeat."

Basically, Get that bullshit out of here

Erik killmonger's motivation for wanting wakanda to be involved with helping black people around the globe was completely understandable, however his plan was poorly implemented. Giving super powerful guns to black folks all over the world would do more harm than good without training, discipline and guidance. I have no idea of the qualifications of the war dogs, but it didn't seem like much more than FBI dropping crack and guns into the hood... But potentially worse

Again, great idea, poor implementation.

He had the full support of the Dora milaje and that would have continued had he not shown how crazy he was.

 

[Philli]

But they might bring him back, its a good chance.
This explanation would fit with the comic books story of Killmonger coming back after death.

Marvel needs the Killmonger character and with Hollywoods reputation of resurrecting old shit lol Im betting on a comeback.

Not saying it couldn't happen... but the MCU doesn't seem to bring dead villains back to life. The issue with bringing comic stories to the big screen is the issue of what to do with a defeated villain. In the comic book and cartoons, nothing really happens to a defeated villain. They are free to keep coming back over and over again. Adapting these stories to mirror the real world, villains can't just keep escaping after an epic battle, not when you have governmental agency's and nations involved.

The Killmonger story line is done and it would look forced to have him resurrected for a sequel. At this point Marvel will want to introduce new villains and different story lines that will set it apart from the first film.

 

[LSN]

Not saying it couldn't happen... but the MCU doesn't seem to bring dead villains back to life. The issue with bringing comic stories to the big screen is the issue of what to do with a defeated villain. In the comic book and cartoons, nothing really happens to a defeated villain. They are free to keep coming back over and over again. Adapting these stories to mirror the real world, villains can't just keep escaping after an epic battle, not when you have governmental agency's and nations involved.

The Killmonger story line is done and it would look forced to have him resurrected for a sequel. At this point Marvel will want to introduce new villains and different story lines that will set it apart from the first film.

good fucking point

 

[therealjondoe]

Up there with what? I've seen it twice at the theater. Black Panther is good in its own right.

I've seen twice at the theater too.
What super hero movie is better?

 

[BGLR1212000]

I'm not in the mood to do rankings per se, but Captain America Winter Soldier, Batman 89', TDK, Iron Man 1 and 2 are ahead of Black Panther, without really sitting down to think about it.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I'm not in the mood to do rankings per se, but Captain America Winter Soldier, Batman 89', TDK, Iron Man 1 and 2 are ahead of Black Panther, without really sitting down to think about it.

i respect your opinion and strongly disagree.

 

[D'Evils]

Ok. Gotcha.

FWIW, I did not make this list. I simply copy/pasted it from the article.
Looks like the Author probably abandoned the 'strict chronology' after Phase 2... and Phase 3 is just listed in order, by release date.

Btw, not sure if you read the article, from the link... but the Author says at the beginning:

"For newcomers to superhero movies — perhaps those who have become absorbed in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) following Black Panther — the amount of watching material can be overwhelming. But for those wanting to persevere, there are TWO watching orders.

(1) Really, you should probably watch these movies in release order, starting the journey starting with Iron Man — one of the best MCU instalments to date — moving onto The Incredible Hulk, then Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America: The First Avenger,finishing Phase One with Avengers. This order works well with post-credit scenes all setting up the next movie and has the intended rhythm formed by producer Kevin Feige.

(2) However, many fans have taken to watching the series in chronological order.

(the article continues...)

Phase Three marks some of the best MCU movies so far, but also some timeline bending difficulties. For instance, Doctor Strange begins before Civil War, but finishes after Civil War.... Also, Black Panther and Spider-Man both take place directly after Civil War, while Ragnarok and Panther directly lead up the upcoming Avengers: Infinity War.

Below’s just a guide for a manageable way of watching based mainly on release order.

(Then the Phase 3 movies are listed after the sentence above)

ok... I love how marvel sets their films up like your reading the comics...

There is the Chronological view then the comic reader viewing...

Civil War

Black Panther
Spider Man​

(watched together feels like a comic crossover with 2 comic tie-ins to explain the origins of the 2 new players...)

Prelude to Infinity War

Dr. Strange
Ragnarok/Planet Hulk​

Infinity War

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Honestly if you want to catch up to the movies. You don't have to watch all of them.

Phase 1 just watch
Iron Man 1,2
Captain America and The Avengers

Phase 2 just watch
Thor
Cap
Guardians
Avengers

Phase 3 just watch
Doctor Strange 1st.
Then watch
Civil War
Then Watch Spiderman and Black Panther
Then Watch Guardians and finally Thor.

You've got the full story.

 

[therealjondoe]

I'm not in the mood to do rankings per se, but Captain America Winter Soldier, Batman 89', TDK, Iron Man 1 and 2 are ahead of Black Panther, without really sitting down to think about it.

You're tripping
Winter Soldier and Tdk are up there but lack the heart and emotion of BP.
Iron man was good.
Iron man 2 was good but not as good as one.
When's the last time you saw 89 batman? it doesn't hold up that well.

I put guardians,Tdk,and winter soldier right under BP. All great movies but I didn't "feel" them like i felt BP. Not saying BP was perfect because there's somethings those movies did better. Like Guardians had better CG imo and winter soldier had better fight scenes. But the story and feeling holds more weight imo when critiquing a movie than the CG and fights that's why I go with BP.

 

[Philli]

good fucking point

Basically the villains have to be put in some type of maximum security government facility never to be seen again or killed off. How corny would these movies look if villains like Klaue either kept escaping after being defeated or he continually breaks out of the government facility that we saw under in the ocean in Civil War. He was killed because the character had his run in 2 movies but is no longer needed in the MCU to advance the Black Panther character story. The MCU does not want to create hard to believe ongoing nemesis battles.

That's what makes the DC universe silly, Lex Luthor just breaks out of prison to set up more movie story lines.

 

[exiledking]

I don't know if I would say the best because there's a lot of superhero movies, too many to digest at this particular juncture. I have to say this has the most plausible storylines in recent history.

When Angela Bassett said my son was murdered, M'Baku said, 'was it fair?' and when she said yes he responded with, "So it was less of a murder and more of a defeat."

Basically, Get that bullshit out of here

Erik killmonger's motivation for wanting wakanda to be involved with helping black people around the globe was completely understandable, however his plan was poorly implemented. Giving super powerful guns to black folks all over the world would do more harm than good without training, discipline and guidance. I have no idea of the qualifications of the war dogs, but it didn't seem like much more than FBI dropping crack and guns into the hood... But potentially worse

Again, great idea, poor implementation.

He had the full support of the Dora milaje and that would have continued had he not shown how crazy he was.

Well my friend. It's a MOVIE. Let's say the shops did get out of the Wakandan airspace

...
It could've easily been the case that those weapons were going to a force that he already had set up. I mean, certainly there is no known "central location" to just drop off weapons to Black people who aren't even really on some war anyway. So the assumption would have to be that those weapons would go to someone someplace that DID feel the war and knew what to do with it. I'm sure Killmonger would be said to have a global panafrican militia set up. See? Just write it in. It's a movie.

 

[therealjondoe]

Where's all the women that were raving about wonder woman and how it represented for the ladies. Because BP did what WW did and then some but I'm not hearing the same sentiments...

 

[exiledking]

W'Kabu dialed up the Rhino's
T'Challa saw him get the horn out and was like NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Them Rhinos were kinda lame. Another one of them devices I hate about superhero movies. Especially when eventually the "leader" one was just gonna end up liking the person on the opposite side anyway.

 

[exiledking]

Where's all the women that were raving about wonder woman and how it represented for the ladies. Because BP did what WW did and then some but I'm not hearing the same sentiments...

You do realize you're on a prediminately male board right? Go outside. They're out there.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Them Rhinos were kinda lame. Another one of them devices I hate about superhero movies. Especially when eventually the "leader" one was just gonna end up liking the person on the opposite side anyway.

I liked it. Showed they were still in tune with the animals to have them on lock like that and ready for war. They're presumably used for invaders, it's probably the 1st time they've ever actually been in a real battle and not some simulation.

 

[geechiedan]

Not saying it couldn't happen... but the MCU doesn't seem to bring dead villains back to life. The issue with bringing comic stories to the big screen is the issue of what to do with a defeated villain. In the comic book and cartoons, nothing really happens to a defeated villain. They are free to keep coming back over and over again. Adapting these stories to mirror the real world, villains can't just keep escaping after an epic battle, not when you have governmental agency's and nations involved.

The Killmonger story line is done and it would look forced to have him resurrected for a sequel. At this point Marvel will want to introduce new villains and different story lines that will set it apart from the first film.

Its not that hard because its a comic book story...people are expecting the villains (especially if its the hero's greatest villain/nemesis) to show up again.. The joker is batmans greatest most well known villain..why kill him off in the first movie or period? What ends up happening is when they want to do the joker again they have to REBOOT the damn whole franchise...which is what we keep seeing. Tim Burtons batmans kills off the joker...you don't see that bad guy again until chris nolans batman...and he dies there...the next time you see that villain again is SOME OTHER directors batmans in his rebooted trilogy/franchise...

Truth to tell many of these heros have one or two really good villains and then its gets really lame after that..

Like I said before Killmonger was a great allegory for the black american compared to West/central africans that could have used as a symbol for finding a way to bridge the gap between us. Killing him off means there is no way for black americans and africans to ever unite/reunite. It kinda goes into what I was saying in another thread about how Africans aren't black as black and white are western european concepts that don't apply to africans in the way it applies to the american descendants of the african slaves. Because most of us don't know the particulars of our african heritage beyond the most general knowledge of you came from this continent (hence the generalized term AFRICAN-american rather than say Nigerian-american or Ghanian-american and you can break it down even further from there) therefore we're stuck with a skin color designation of black..and we've been building a culture and heritage from that.

T'challa isn't black...he's wakandan and actually erik isn't black either as he knows where he comes from and what his heritage was but he rejected it because they rejected him and therefore he becomes "black" by default. Hes a cipher for black americans. I would have liked to have seen the guy show up in later movies start some shit or take a pot shot and then have that big show down where in the end he and t'challa find a way to reunite and that symbolically shows us that MAYBE the black americans and west africans can find a way to come together.

Killing him off kills all of that potential.

 

[CurtDawg]

Assist.

This is the 'chronological list', if you want to watch all the Marvel movies in the order they are meant be viewed to maintain 'continuity'...

Phase One
Captain America 1: The First Avenger
Iron Man 1
Iron Man 2
The Incredible Hulk
Thor 1
Avengers 1

Phase Two
Iron Man 3
Thor 2: The Dark World
Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy 1
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Avengers 2: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man

Phase Three
Captain America 3: Civil War
Doctor Strange
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Thor 3: Ragnarok
Black Panther

This is just the list of movies.

The link below also includes all the Marvel TV Shows on Netflix & Network TV:

Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline: How to watch every MCU film and TV show in chronological order
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-netflix-avengers-black-panther-a8210821.html

B00kmarked

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Hail Killmonger

 

[therealjondoe]

You do realize you're on a prediminately male board right? Go outside. They're out there.

c'mon man I don't mean on here.
I don't see it like I did with ww

 

[TimRock]

I'm not in the mood to do rankings per se, but Captain America Winter Soldier, Batman 89', TDK, Iron Man 1 and 2 are ahead of Black Panther, without really sitting down to think about it.

Iron Man 2.....wow.

I'm probably the only person that thinks TDK is overrated.

 

[LSN]

I'm probably the only person that thinks TDK is overrated.

na I do too...great performance from ledger...average film tho

 

[BGLR1212000]

i respect your opinion and strongly disagree.

Yall liked Wonder Woman and I didnt. And stand by what I said. I pretty much always disagree with BGOL movie rankings.

 

[Mo-Better]

Basically the villains have to be put in some type of maximum security government facility never to be seen again or killed off. How corny would these movies look if villains like Klaue either kept escaping after being defeated or he continually breaks out of the government facility that we saw under in the ocean in Civil War. He was killed because the character had his run in 2 movies but is no longer needed in the MCU to advance the Black Panther character story. The MCU does not want to create hard to believe ongoing nemesis battles.

That's what makes the DC universe silly, Lex Luthor just breaks out of prison to set up more movie story lines.

This is my biggest problem with DC. They've done 6 Superman movies and 6 times they've stuck us with Lex Luther as the villain. Why is it DC Animation seems to get it right but their motion pictures fail every time. Lazy uninspired writing and writers.

As for repeatedly killing off Superman, is that an indication they've run out of ideas? This franchise was created in the 1930s and Superman has to be more worthwhile opponents than just Lex Luther.

But Marvel isn't perfect. There's no excuse how they've failed with the Fantastic 4 franchise.

 

[2Klub]

We all talking about how we would feel if Killmonger returns. I TRUST Koogler (sp) and Micheal B. Jordan would do that plot justice to make sense for all of us.

Just a thought...Killmonger raised and fell for his purpose only this time, his purpose died at the setting Wakandan sun with T’Chala to symbolize that Wakanda was both beautiful but the old ways were coming to an end and a new Wakanda was about to Dawn. Both characters experienced a moment of change before/during that fight. He spends time in the ancestral plain with his father, they heal and reconnect with their ancestors. N’Jadaka comes back (having dropped the Killmonger name) and his father becomes an ancestral advisor to T’Challa (which links back to one of the comic book storylines...T’Challa’s Uncle was ruler and Panther until T’Challa became ready and was a trusted advisor to him). We see N’Jadaka and Bukky (a new white tiger https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Tiger_(comics) ) kicking ass as part of Marvel’s street level teams through the Luke Cage series (which VERY much fits).

For all the symbology brothers...speak on the meanings of being raised with help vs. on your own? The usage of acacia trees.

 

[spider705]

 

[Mo-Better]

Basically the villains have to be put in some type of maximum security government facility never to be seen again or killed off. How corny would these movies look if villains like Klaue either kept escaping after being defeated or he continually breaks out of the government facility that we saw under in the ocean in Civil War. He was killed because the character had his run in 2 movies but is no longer needed in the MCU to advance the Black Panther character story. The MCU does not want to create hard to believe ongoing nemesis battles.

That's what makes the DC universe silly, Lex Luthor just breaks out of prison to set up more movie story lines.

This is my biggest problem with DC. They've done 6 Superman movies and 6 times they've stuck us with Lex Luther as the villain. Why is it DC Animation seems to get it right but their motion pictures fail every time. Lazy uninspired writing and writers.

As for repeatedly killing off Superman, is that an indication they've run out of ideas? This franchise was created in the 1930s and Superman there has to be more worthwhile opponents than just Lex Luther.

But Marvel isn't perfect. There's no excuse how they've failed with the Fantastic 4 franchise.

 

[LSN]

she was about to unleash @ 0:52

 

[spider705]

she was about to go in @ 0:52

Yeah she caught herself and cleaned that up nicely...

 

[Mo-Better]

Taking place right after the events of Captain America: Civil War T'Challa / Black Panther
takes the throne as king of Wakanda,but being king comes with a set of challenges and unforseen circumstances.

Director/writer Ryan Coogler and writer Joe Robert Cole have crafted a compelling story coupled with a super hero movie.
A story that includes betrayal,loyalty,familial and tribal turmoil,and secrets that can alter a family and kingdom.
While not being preachy the film gets it's points across about racism,but it's also a celebration of black culture.
The cast : Chadwick Boseman,Michael B. Jordan,Lupita Nyong'O,Danai Gurira,Daniel Kaluuya,
Letitia Wright,Winston Duke,Angela Bassett,Andy Serkis, Forest Whitaker and Martin Freeman
all bring something to the table.There is a joy and intensity to their performances that drew me to each of them.It made me invest in them.
We are presented with a villain Michael B. Jordan as N'Jadaka / Erik "Killmonger" Stevens in which when you look at the foundation of the character you understand his motivations,but disagree with the path he takes.
I loved how the film displayed the strength of love for country and family.
The action sequences were stunning,the tribal challenges were intense and drove me to the edge of my seat.
There are great points about personal responsibility.How much can you give to the world and still be true to yourself and your countrymen? Should i remain isolated or help my fellow man?
The film is visually stunning great costume design from Ruth Carter.Along with good touches of humor and words and moments that definitely struck a few emotional chords.

My only problems with the film the CGI was off in a few sequences and there were a few predictable moments.

The film breezes by i definitely didnt feel the films 2 hour and 20 minute running time.

In the end i felt i got a sleek and involving super hero film,but also a message about sincerity and genuinely wanting to unite people.It's the kind of positivity we all desperately need right now.

So rejoice and enjoy Black Panther because this type of film making we dont see often.

Scale of 1-10 a 9

Marvel has created something I'm sure is a new level of quality. That said fans are going to expect the same level of quality in the future.

 

[playahaitian]

Iron Man 2.....wow.

I'm probably the only person that thinks TDK is overrated.

no you are not, fam

 

[playahaitian]

interesting black panther review on Golic & Wingo on ESPN radio right now

the replacement guy and Mike Golicwere giving their reviews...

it was the most uncomfortable exchange of the new regime

they were tap dancing like muthafukas...then getting DEFENSIVE

finally giving the movie 3 out 5 "doughnuts"

and felt compelled to talk with the ONLY Black staff member (on some black friend sh*t)

who promptly called them haters.

And of course, black twitter assembled to drag them.

Honestly I really don't like this idea that EVERYONE HAS TO LIKE Black Panther

We really need to let go of that, cause much of that movie WAS NOT for THEM anyway.

(and it was NOT perfect)

I think white folk getting in trouble (and even some Black folk)

when they try to do some type of community college film school analysis to somehow JUSTIFY their opinion.

Just say I liked or I didn't like it

when they start to try to get all deep...then they get in a whole mess of trouble.

Cause yo expose either your ignorance or biases that have NOTHING to do with the actual movie.

 

[ViCiouS]

I'm not in the mood to do rankings per se, but Captain America Winter Soldier, Batman 89', TDK, Iron Man 1 and 2 are ahead of Black Panther, without really sitting down to think about it.

don't bother to sit and think about it...

Batman 89?
Iron Man 2?