Marvel Animation's X-Men '97 | Official Trailer

actinanass

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I like the fact that everyone is calling disney out on their bullshit.
I do think the xmen 97 first season would be decent/great because Disney needs eyes on the streaming service.
 

CptMARVEL

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His point was no one believed Ironman would be a success and you choose to focus on minor incorrect statement so that you could be right. You never even addressed the overall message. That's nitpicking. You continue to do the same when it's clear I'm not concerned about when Disney took over Marvel.

Doing that doesn't help your argument about Marvel or woke culture hurting entertainment. From the tone of the responses to you, people don't believe you care about the integrity of the characters as is. Assuming you are being serious, why deflect instead of focusing on the key point.
Dude.
Enjoy the series when it comes out.
I really & truly hope it's everything you want it to be.
As for me, I'm done getting my hopes up for Disney crap.
(And yet, I absolutely WILL go see Deadpool. Go figure...) ;)
 

guyver

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Dude.
Enjoy the series when it comes out.
I really & truly hope it's everything you want it to be.
As for me, I'm done getting my hopes up for Disney crap.
(And yet, I absolutely WILL go see Deadpool. Go figure...) ;)
SMH you really shouldn't make assumptions. While I don't agree with your overall stance, I don't agree with unnecessary/forced character changes either. There is nothing wrong with making Iceman gay as long as there is a good story behind it. Having him show up with his partner and saying hey I was in the closet with no signs over the years isn't good writing. To be fair, I don't know how that was handled.

I'm actually indifferent and not particularly that interested. If you were an X-Men fan, they've had a few quality series over the years. If you're going to complain, why not complain about attempting to use nostalgia from the 90s series to draw in 90s kids. This isn't exactly filling a void and what people really want is the X-men team in the MCU. I would have cared about one of the other teams getting a series or seeing something like Age of Apocalypse animated.

Meanwhile you are excited about a movie that the pervious film was underwhelming to say the least and they are pretty much repeating the samething. The exception being they are switching Cable for Wolverine and trying to connect to the one small success taken from Loki. The next one may include Spiderman. The issue isn't the woke vision. It's the writing, living off the hype and nostalgia.

End of the day, I was making an observation, giving you benefit of doubt and attempting to give unsolicited advice. Do with it what you will.
 

Big Tex

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SMH you really shouldn't make assumptions. While I don't agree with your overall stance, I don't agree with unnecessary/forced character changes either. There is nothing wrong with making Iceman gay as long as there is a good story behind it. Having him show up with his partner and saying hey I was in the closet with no signs over the years isn't good writing. To be fair, I don't know how that was handled.

I'm actually indifferent and not particularly that interested. If you were an X-Men fan, they've had a few quality series over the years. If you're going to complain, why not complain about attempting to use nostalgia from the 90s series to draw in 90s kids. This isn't exactly filling a void and what people really want is the X-men team in the MCU. I would have cared about one of the other teams getting a series or seeing something like Age of Apocalypse animated.

Meanwhile you are excited about a movie that the pervious film was underwhelming to say the least and they are pretty much repeating the samething. The exception being they are switching Cable for Wolverine and trying to connect to the one small success taken from Loki. The next one may include Spiderman. The issue isn't the woke vision. It's the writing, living off the hype and nostalgia.

End of the day, I was making an observation, giving you benefit of doubt and attempting to give unsolicited advice. Do with it what you will.

The heroes are two white men. Explains it all.
 

MistaPhantastic

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If it's just about the stories, why do you spend so much time complaining about ONLY female and non white characters?

The biggest writing fail in MCU history was making Thor Odinson a buffoon. 1000 times worse than any female character they wrote. A million times worse than the Endgame scene that is still triggering you guys today.

Yet you never point to that and say how they are forcing bad white characters on us...

The three lowest grossing movies in MCU history are the Marvels (which you guys always point out), The Incredible Hulk and Captain America the First Avenger (which you NEVER point out.) So are comic book fans telling Disney they don't want all these white men only hero movies?

I mean, insert man, make him smart or strong, He outsmarts/defeats his enemies. He wins the day. Happily ever after, blah, blah, blah. You just described basic story structure and called it feminism if the protagonist is female.

Insert Peter Parker. Make him smart AND strong. He outsmarts/defeats his enemies. He wins the day.
Insert Tony Stark. Make him smart AND strong. He outsmarts/defeats his enemies. He wins the day.
Insert Bruce Wayne. Make him smart. He outsmarts/defeats his enemies. He wins the day.
Insert Kal El. Make him strong. He outsmarts/defeats his enemies. He wins the day.
Insert Stephen Strange. Make him smart and strong. He outsmarts/defeats his enemies. He wins the day.

All these, I assume you are just fine with.

Then...

Insert Carol Danvers. Make her strong. She outsmarts/defeats her enemies. She wins the day.

Now that's the shit you don't like.

Your whole argument is flawed. Its seems that you don't know nearly as much about these characters as you profess to. Tony Stark is a selfish, alcoholic narcissist who gets in his own way and failed several times and then tried to tech his way out of it. He was an asshole to his friends and his girlfriend. He went over the edge but is always front and center in a fight, even though he is just a human with no powers and no real training. He basically redeemed himself by catching a nuke and dying in a wormhole in space.

Peter Parker's struggles have been apparent in every movie. He's broke. He's unsure of himself without the mask on. He can't seem to manage his life and until he revealed his secret identity, he had zero spidey/life balance. He was failing in his relationships and friendships and J. Jonah stayed on his ass about work. At one point, he was even slipping in school because he was Spidermanning in the evenings instead of doing his homework. Spiderman is the most relatable character in Marvel and the furthest from a Mary Sue as you can get, so you sound foolish with that example.

I'm not addressing Batman or Superman because the topic is Marvel. Stay focused.

Stephen Strange was an arrogant doctor with a god complex. Also extremely egotistic. He's had to be humbled several times in the movies. He struggled with his ego and had to learn to get over himself in order to become a better hero. He still lapses back occasionally, but you saw his progression as he had to learn to be better by controlling his powers.


Now, where is Carol Danvers's struggle? I'll wait. Nevermind. Its pretty much non-existent.
FOH with your weak ass strawman arguments. You're just mad because I don't side with the stupid feminist bullshit that Disney in a Marvel mask is pushing. You sound ridiculous bringing race into it because you can't seem to fathom that someone would value story authenticity over "representation". My point is there is already plenty of representation that the MCU doesn't cover. They are just starting to but they are doing a shit job of it.
You are defending Marvel's worst character fuck up seconded only to She-Hulk.
If you ever actually read the comics instead of arguing because my opinion is different from yours, you'd know how different Ms. Marvel in the comics is from the Captain Marvel fraud farce of a character the MCU made her. In the comics, she was actually likeable.
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BTW, I see your ass glossed over my example of Natasha Romanoff being a well done character as opposed to Captain Marvel. Scarlet Witch can fuck up damn near everybody in the MCU. You don't hear the same complaints about her as you do captain marvel.
The MCU version of Captain Marvel is a shit Mary Sue ass character that nobody likes.
 

LennyNero1972

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BGOL Investor
Well, I peeped the cartoon during my college years and really dug it, all my buddies back then were into it too. I'm kinda excited for nostalgia sake but sorta let down too because sticking to the original style allows Disney to be cheap. We'll see.
 

CptMARVEL

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BGOL Investor
SMH you really shouldn't make assumptions. While I don't agree with your overall stance, I don't agree with unnecessary/forced character changes either. There is nothing wrong with making Iceman gay as long as there is a good story behind it. Having him show up with his partner and saying hey I was in the closet with no signs over the years isn't good writing. To be fair, I don't know how that was handled.

I'm actually indifferent and not particularly that interested. If you were an X-Men fan, they've had a few quality series over the years. If you're going to complain, why not complain about attempting to use nostalgia from the 90s series to draw in 90s kids. This isn't exactly filling a void and what people really want is the X-men team in the MCU. I would have cared about one of the other teams getting a series or seeing something like Age of Apocalypse animated.

Meanwhile you are excited about a movie that the pervious film was underwhelming to say the least and they are pretty much repeating the samething. The exception being they are switching Cable for Wolverine and trying to connect to the one small success taken from Loki. The next one may include Spiderman. The issue isn't the woke vision. It's the writing, living off the hype and nostalgia.

End of the day, I was making an observation, giving you benefit of doubt and attempting to give unsolicited advice. Do with it what you will.
Uh, huh. Right.
And since you bought up Spiderman...
I'm sure you didn't "assume" this film wouldn't be a piece of shit the minute you watched the trailer.
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'Cuz I'm guessing you paid full price to see this movie in a theater and watched it with an open mind. :rolleyes:


But honestly dude, I really hope you enjoy X-Men '97. I hope it's everything you want it to be.
I just won't be joining you... :dunno:
 

ShortyCumStain

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Dudes in here going on and on about "agendas", and don't even realize that the comics ALWAYS pandered and ALWAYS had an agenda. They just pandered to white males. And the agenda was that white males would always be the most powerful. Always be the smartest. Always be the most heroic. Always save the day.

Now imagine being Black and not only pining for the days of the white only agenda but fighting to defend and keep it...

Furthermore, niggas always talm'bout agendas but when asked what those specific agendas are, it's crickets.
 

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
BGOL Investor
Wait Morph was always non binary just based on his power...

Wouldn't Mystique and most metamorphs be that? Since many are born able to change into any gender? Mystique even got a woman pregnant.

and Morph was always Logan closest friend.

So you should had an issue DECADES ago.
Excellent point. This is just a bunch of assholes making noise about nothing at all. Muthafuckas always wanna complain about some shit instead of just shutting the fuck up and enjoying the fuckin show. Social media got everyone thinking they're some kind of expert analysis when they are really just losers who can't get pussy. ANYBODY WHO'S NOT HYPED FOR DIS SHIT FUCK EM!!!!!!
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shaddyvillethug

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The MCU says that Tony Stark and Bruce Banner are the smartest men in the world.

Any comic book nerd knows Reed Richards is smarter than both of them. But none of you go on tirades about pandering and not following the source material. You just accept that the movies are different than the books and keep it moving.

But for the love of Vishnu and C'thun let them say a woman was the smartest person on Earth and there would be wailing and gnashing of teeth all over BGOL and Al Gore's interwebs for years...
Reed is not smarter than Victor Von-Doom
 

guyver

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Platinum Member
Uh, huh. Right.
And since you bought up Spiderman...
I'm sure you didn't "assume" this film wouldn't be a piece of shit the minute you watched the trailer.
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'Cuz I'm guessing you paid full price to see this movie in a theater and watched it with an open mind. :rolleyes:


But honestly dude, I really hope you enjoy X-Men '97. I hope it's everything you want it to be.
I just won't be joining you... :dunno:

Spiderman was mentioned because of his relationship with Deadpool like Cable and Wolverine. I assumed Madame Web would be bad based on Sony' desire to put out bad products like Morbius and Venom to keep the Spiderman license. I'm also not familiar with the character beyond the 90s cartoon, so I wasn't interested. However, had i heard good things like a good story or characters, I would watch it.

Unlike you, I didn't care about women being the focus of the film. It's all fiction, so women overpowering men don't hurt my ego in anyway. The films in general take place in a universe that an Alien snapped his fingers and took out half the population, yet Captain Marvel being a superpowered woman is where you draw the line.

I noticed you've moved further away from the initial point which was most people didn't see Ironman being successful and you were nitpicking the point.

I gave you advice and you've chosen to decline it. If you want to get grouped with loser white boys or trolls, that's your business.
 

shaddyvillethug

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BGOL Investor
Also, Morph is a made up character for this series

Of course it’s an agenda their and I knew he was funny style back in the early 90s

“WOLVERINE WATCH OUT !!!!!!!l”

Bitch nigga sacrificed himself for his boyfriend


And remember when he came back he morphed into Deadpool(who is a-sexual) and said some gay shit in that cave.


X-men has always been about faggitry and Niggas

Ima still watch it

Where’s my Nigga Cable and Nightcrawler
 

CptMARVEL

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BGOL Investor
Spiderman was mentioned because of his relationship with Deadpool like Cable and Wolverine. I assumed Madame Web would be bad based on Sony' desire to put out bad products like Morbius and Venom to keep the Spiderman license. I'm also not familiar with the character beyond the 90s cartoon, so I wasn't interested. However, had i heard good things like a good story or characters, I would watch it.

Unlike you, I didn't care about women being the focus of the film. It's all fiction, so women overpowering men don't hurt my ego in anyway. The films in general take place in a universe that an Alien snapped his fingers and took out half the population, yet Captain Marvel being a superpowered woman is where you draw the line.

I noticed you've moved further away from the initial point which was most people didn't see Ironman being successful and you were nitpicking the point.

I gave you advice and you've chosen to decline it. If you want to get grouped with loser white boys or trolls, that's your business.
Dude, I'm not at all concerned about being "grouped" with people I don't care about.
- They don't speak for me nor I them.

And the truth is, it's your inability to accept the opinions of people who you disagree with that enables you to group them with "white boy losers and trolls". (It actually speaks more about you and your biases than anything else).
- Never mind the fact that there are plenty of Blacks, minorities, women and gays who also dislike the current direction Disney entertainment.

But again, please enjoy the show when it premieres. I'm sure it'll be everything you want it to be. :dunno:
 

guyver

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Dude, I'm not at all concerned about being "grouped" with people I don't care about.
- They don't speak for me nor I them.

And the truth is, it's your inability to accept the opinions of people who you disagree with that enables you to group them with "white boy losers and trolls". (It actually speaks more about you and your biases than anything else).
- Never mind the fact that there are plenty of Blacks, minorities, women and gays who also dislike the current direction Disney entertainment.

But again, please enjoy the show when it premieres. I'm sure it'll be everything you want it to be. :dunno:

My initial comments to you had very little to do with your opinion on diversity with Disney/Marvel. I initially was only addressing you nitpicking the comments about Ironman. You clearly wanted to fight the good fight. I just gave you enough respect to entertain your thoughts. I even said while I wasn't as extreme as you, I don't like the pandering without a good story. I gave a clear direct response to what you thought were X-Men jabs by saying I was indifferent and stated my reason. When asked about Madame Web, i told you exactly why I wasn't interested and it wasn't related to your concerns to my knowledge. It's you that has the inability to accept what is being said to you to the point of not acknowledging it and worse misrepresenting it even after its clarified. I simply gave your behavior a classification and at the moment you are fitting right in.

Ironically, I attempted to give you advice so your thoughts would be respected and you're not mislabeled with the people you are having a discussion with. Weren't you the one giving warnings about people mistaking your opinion for being a white savior or hating women? Sounds like you are concerned about being grouped with them to me. Now you are going to the next level of playing victim, saying it's not just you and grouping yourself with other losers crying about the samething. You are speaking for them and they for you. You share the same views.

We're good. I'm sure you'll be one of the first to watch X-Men next month. Hence the reason you keep bringing it up it. That's generally how your type operates.
 

CptMARVEL

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My initial comments to you had very little to do with your opinion on diversity with Disney/Marvel. I initially was only addressing you nitpicking the comments about Ironman. You clearly wanted to fight the good fight. I just gave you enough respect to entertain your thoughts. I even said while I wasn't as extreme as you, I don't like the pandering without a good story. I gave a clear direct response to what you thought were X-Men jabs by saying I was indifferent and stated my reason. When asked about Madame Web, i told you exactly why I wasn't interested and it wasn't related to your concerns to my knowledge. It's you that has the inability to accept what is being said to you to the point of not acknowledging it and worse misrepresenting it even after its clarified. I simply gave your behavior a classification and at the moment you are fitting right in.

Ironically, I attempted to give you advice so your thoughts would be respected and you're not mislabeled with the people you are having a discussion with. Weren't you the one giving warnings about people mistaking your opinion for being a white savior or hating women? Sounds like you are concerned about being grouped with them to me. Now you are going to the next level of playing victim, saying it's not just you and grouping yourself with other losers crying about the samething. You are speaking for them and they for you. You share the same views.

We're good. I'm sure you'll be one of the first to watch X-Men next month. Hence the reason you keep bringing it up it. That's generally how your type operates.
"Loser"
"Extreme"
"White savior"
"Playing victim"
"Hating women"
:eek2:

Geez dude, all you've done is negatively label folks you disagree with.
- I didn't address you. You came at me 1st.

And no. Sadly I won't be watching the series. I discontinued my Disney+ subscription over a year ago.
But you really should watch it. I hope you enjoy it...:dunno:
 

guyver

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"Loser"
"Extreme"
"White savior"
"Playing victim"
"Hating women"

:eek2:
Geez dude, all you've done is negatively label folks you disagree with.
- I didn't address you. You came at me 1st.

And no. Sadly I won't be watching the series. I discontinued my Disney+ subscription over a year ago.
But you really should watch it. I hope you enjoy it...:dunno:
Again.
This guy gets it. :yes:

But be careful, bro.
Expressing ideals like these will earn you detractors and kool-aid drinkers who'll label you as having a "White savior" complex or hating strong women.


I'm addressing your own words.

I negatively labeled you losers because you are. You are entitled to your opinion, but people wil view you away. You know just like those who take your view point label people woke who are ok with diversity or kool-aid drinkers as you called them. You're still playing victim. You're crying about a cartoon that if I were to believe you aren't watching because you don't have easy access. You'll go to the usually spot when its available to watch.

I didn't come at you. I wasted my time trying to tell you how your deflection was hurting your opinion/stance and tried to give you benefit of doubt even with your blantly comments. You took it as an attack instead of seeing it as honest advice/feedback. You'd been better off owning up to what you seem to be.
 

blackbull1970

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7 Important X-MEN: THE ANIMATED SERIES Episodes to Watch Before X-MEN ’97

Eric Diaz
February 16, 2024


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The trailer for X-Men ’97 was brief, but it gave us a glimpse of some important plot developments. Magneto inheriting the X-Mansion? A pregnant Jean Grey? Many of these things were actually set up in the original ’90s series. Here are some episodes of the classic X-Men: The Animated Series you may want to watch again before X-Men ’97 releases in March on Disney+.

X-Men: The Animated Series Season 1, Episodes 1 & 2, “Night of the Sentinels”

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In the trailer for X-Men ’97, we see the unmistakable hand of a Sentinel robot. The giant mutant-hunting machines are the embodiment of humanity’s hatred of homo superior. In many ways, they are the X-Men’s biggest enemy. We were first introduced to these Sentinels in the two-part opening episode of X-Men: The Animated Series, “Night of the Sentinels,” way back in 1992. They are responsible for killing the shapeshifting X-Man named Morph (he gets better), who will be a key player in the new series. Besides, what’s a better place to start getting ready for X-Men ’97 than with X-Men: The Animated Series very first episodes?

X-Men: The Animated Series Season 1, Episode 3, “Enter Magneto”

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The trailer for X-Men ’97 also shows Magneto inheriting the X-Mansion, and, presumably, the fortune of Charles Xavier via his last will and testament. It shows that Charles Xavier believed in the good within his former friend turned enemy. The backstory of their complicated relationship is explored in Magneto’s first appearance in X-Men: The Animated Series, “Enter Magneto.” Given Magneto has such a big role in the new show, there’s no better time than now to go back and see how the friendship between Xavier and Magneto fractured. This X-Men: The Animated Series episode will surely come into play in X-Men ’97.

X-Men: The Animated Series Season 1, Episodes 11 & 12, “Days of Future Past”

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“Days of Future Past” is one of the most iconic X-Men stories of all time. It tells of a future where Sentinel robots have all but made the mutant race extinct. So, one of the future X-Men must go back in time to change history, preventing this apocalyptic future. The original ’80s comics had Kitty Pryde as the time-traveling X-Man, while the film adaptation used Wolverine. But in the two-part adaptation of the story for the cartoon, Lucas Bishop was the character to go back in time. Since Bishop is now a member of the “prime timeline” X-Men in X-Men ’97, the version of the story found in these episodes of The Animated Series may be one you wish to revisit.

X-Men: The Animated Series Season 4, Episode 8, “Nightcrawler”

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Although not seen in the trailer for X-Men ’97, Marvel Studios has confirmed that the teleporting mutant Nightcrawler will be a series regular. For the show, he’ll be voiced by Adrian Hough. Although a main member of the team since 1975 in the comics, X-Men: The Animated Series only used him twice. Still, the episode “Nightcrawler” was a great chapter in the series. It really summed up why the demonic-looking (yet devoutly religious) mutant is so amazing. This is one episode of X-Men: The Animated Series you might want to revisit to get to know Kurt Wagner better before his X-Men ’97 return.

X-Men: The Animated Series Season 4, Episode 18, “Beyond Good and Evil Part 1”


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Jean Grey and Scott Summers are the premiere X-Men couple. Although they attempted to get married in season two, their actual nuptials actually took place at the end of season four. Why does this matter? Because in the X-Men ’97 trailer, we see a very pregnant Jean Grey. But what if that’s not Jean, and Scott married someone else? Toy releases tied to X-Men ’97 show that Madelyne Pryor, Jean’s clone and Scott’s first wife in the comics, will play a big part in the show. These toys also show Maddy with a baby. That baby grows up to be the cyborg warrior Cable in the comics. Our theory is that they replaced the real Jean shortly before their wedding in Beyond Good and Evil. Therefore, Scott actually married her clone Maddy. Considering that, it might be a great time to revisit this famous wedding episode of X-Men: The Animated Series.

X-Men: The Animated Series Season 5, Episode 75, “Descent”

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Marvel has already confirmed that Mister Sinister will be the main villain of X-Men ’97. The white and pasty-skinned mad scientist has a fixation with mutant bloodlines, and he experiments to create even more powerful mutants. But who is he really? In the final season, the episode “Descent” tells us the origin story of Nathaniel Essex, who used his gifts to give himself powers back in Victorian England. It also ties Sinister into the real-life legend of Jack the Ripper. Given his importance to the upcoming X-Men ’97 series, this episode of X-Men: The Animated Series feels like essential viewing.

Spider-Man: The Animated Series Season 2, Episodes 17 & 18, “The Mutant Agenda” and “Mutants’ Revenge”

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You might be confused about these episodes being included, as they are part of the ‘90s Spider-Man animated series, not X-Men. But in the X-Men ’97 trailer, we see a copy of the Daily Bugle, with the headline “Is Spider-Man a Mutant?” This lets us know that Spidey is part of the X-Men: The Animated Series world. But we knew this already because the versions of the X-Men from the ‘90s cartoon appeared in a two-part episode of Spider-Man. It is possible that we might see that version of Peter Parker appear in X-Men ’97. How cool would it be to see these Marvel ‘90s icons meet once again? The ‘90s Spider-Man series is also on Disney+. So it’s worth rewatching the X-Men’s two-episode appearance, as it might actually matter to upcoming events in X-Men ’97.
 
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