{~}Official 2023/2024 NBA Thread - 2024 Summer League, USA Hoops

Final winner


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KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
He's definitely the most Overrated "Superstar" ever. He's a cool player. But you the fam and I know we can have debates not based on emotions. So I know you'll tell me. What did Wade ever do without Shaq or Bron on his team?

Ask them to tell you Chris Bosh's biggest playoff moment without LeBron? Also ask them would he be in the Hall Of Fame if he never played with LeBron? He was all NBA 2nd team ONCE (2007) in 13 seasons. That's it!!!
 

jawnswoop

It's A Philly Thing
BGOL Investor
Where's the lie, he played for Cleveland to get that ring after leaving them for the heat and then went to the lakers to get another ring.

If it wasn't for that big 3 in miami then lebron wouldn't had won no ring being ringless.

That's why he needed a superteam to win those rings.
 

REDLINE

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
You weren't kidding when you said you have these cats on ignore lmao.

Yeah man, unfortunately they usually fall into two categories.

Trolls, or people who get sensitive\moist when confronted on some bullshit that they said.

So that I don't make the mistake of replying to the moist, it's best to just put'em on ignore so I don't have to read bullshit.

And trolls...

Well you know :lol:
 

KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
Where's the lie, he played for Cleveland to get that ring after leaving them for the heat and then went to the lakers to get another ring.

If it wasn't for that big 3 in miami then lebron wouldn't had won no ring being ringless.

That's why he needed a superteam to win those rings.

So going to Cleveland is a guaranteed chip now? :lol: Guess Donovan Mitchell bout to win his first ring. Even if LeBron had 0 rings we'd still be posting bout him over all the other NBA players in the league cuz he's the GOAT and games biggest draw. Most important NBA player of all time. :dunno:
 

jawnswoop

It's A Philly Thing
BGOL Investor
So going to Cleveland is a guaranteed chip now? :lol: Guess Donovan Mitchell bout to win his first ring. Even if LeBron had 0 rings we'd still be posting bout him over all the other NBA players in the league cuz he's the GOAT and games biggest draw. Most important NBA player of all time. :dunno:
I meant to say he went back to Cleveland joining kevin love and kyrie irving to win that ring which at the time was a big 3. Same with when he joined miami with bosh and wade which was another big 3 team and then finally the lakers with rondo and davis being another big 3.

So, explain to me when did lebron win a ring in Cleveland before joining a big 3, well you can't because he never won a ring until he formed a big 3!

lebron always felt he needed ring to cement his legacy or be in the GOAT discussions which is why he was getting on these super teams.
 

therealjondoe

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Couldn't make the playoffs though? Not win It all, not make a long run, couldn't make it at all? With the 2nd best shooting guard ever let folks try to tell it? In the weak east as they use to call it?
Bosh missed half the year and Wade missed 20 games
 

D'Evils

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Bosh played the entire 2015 season when they missed the playoffs. If the team was old and decrepit and only functioned well when healthy, not really a "super team" ehh?

The reality is that Wade and Bosh underperformed as Heatles but were never going to take the scrutiny for it because fans, yourself included, were and are more invested in diminishing LeBron than actually holding all 3 accountable for their play as "superstars". Nobody cares about Wade or Bosh's legacies and both players were overrated to make it seem like LeBron had an unfair advantage and "too much help" than Michael Jordan had. Once Bron realized that he left. The fact they missed the playoffs the year after with 2 all stars and he went to the Finals on a new team says a lot. The fact they haven't won anything as a franchise in the 10 years since he left and lost to LeBron in 2020 says even more.

Heat's season turns upside down following Chris Bosh's diagnosis​

Just days after Chris Bosh participated in All-Star Weekend in New York City, the Heat announced their All-Star forward would miss the rest of the season due to blood clots on his lung.
Just days after Chris Bosh participated in All-Star Weekend in New York City, the Heat announced their All-Star forward would miss the rest of the season due to blood clots on his lung. In an official statement released on Saturday, the Heat said Bosh was "resting comfortably" at a hospital, that he is "OK" and that his "prognosis is good."
 

KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
I meant to say he went back to Cleveland joining kevin love and kyrie irving to win that ring which at the time was a big 3. Same with when he joined miami with bosh and wade which was another big 3 team and then finally the lakers with rondo and davis being another big 3.

So, explain to me when did lebron when a ring in Cleveland before joining a big 3, well you can't because he never won a ring until he formed a big 3!

lebron always felt he needed ring to cement his legacy or be in the GOAT discussions which is why he was getting on these super teams.

Kevin Love and Kyrie had never played in playoff games before. Some "Big 3". Love played in this last Finals off the Heat bench. Out of all of LeBron's teammates in 21 seasons him and Wade the only 2 to appear in a Finals without him. Both did it once. :giggle:
 

jawnswoop

It's A Philly Thing
BGOL Investor
This is why I hate these super teams, it never works out well and only a few team have had success with it.

The nets super team failed.

The suns super team is gonna fail

Clippers super team have failed.
 

KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
That's still 62 games fam. In the weak east.

Chris Bosh simply had to become a teammate of LeBron's and look at all the excuses he gets. If roles were reversed, Heat win 2 chips with one over a LeBron team the last 10 years, and he misses the playoffs the year after he leaves MIA and goes 0-2 in the Finals, what would BGOL be saying?

Pat Riley's white mediocrity >>> LeBron's Black American excellence
 

largebillsonlyplease

Large
BGOL Legend
Couldn't make the playoffs though? Not win It all, not make a long run, couldn't make it at all? With the 2nd best shooting guard ever let folks try to tell it? In the weak east as they use to call it?

It was easy to see they were all broken down after that run
They were broken down in the finals that had a lot to do with his Exodus from them as well

They're not off the hook it's unacceptable


However to say heat culture is nothing without bron is not ok
He built the culture yes

They been to the playoffs and been in the finals twice including this past season

Like let's be honest about All of it

He built the culture yes

The culture still exists in some measure and has nothing to do with pat
But everything to do with coach spo and his all time ability to cultivate talent taking the scraps pat barely gets and turns them into gems
 

therealjondoe

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
That's still 62 games fam. In the weak east.

With what players?
Chris AndersenC6-10245July 7, 1978us12Blinn College
30Michael BeasleyPF6-9235January 9, 1989us6Kansas State
1Chris BoshC6-11235March 24, 1984us11Georgia Tech
26Shannon BrownSG6-4205November 29, 1985us8Michigan State
15Mario ChalmersPG6-2190May 19, 1986us6Kansas
30Norris ColePG6-2175October 13, 1988us3Cleveland State University
24Andre DawkinsSG6-5215September 19, 1991usRDuke
9Luol DengSF6-9237April 16, 1985ss10Duke
7Goran DragićPG6-3190May 6, 1986si6
12Zoran DragićSG6-5200June 22, 1989siR
32James Ennis IIISF6-6215July 1, 1990usRCal State Long Beach
22Danny GrangerSF6-9222April 20, 1983us9Bradley, New Mexico
7Justin HamiltonC7-0260April 1, 1990us1Iowa State, LSU
40Udonis HaslemPF6-8235June 9, 1980us11Florida
8Tyler JohnsonSG6-3186May 7, 1992usRFresno State
4Josh McRobertsPF6-10240February 28, 1987us7Duke
13Shabazz NapierPG6-0175July 14, 1991usRUConn
3Dwyane WadeSG6-4220January 17, 1982us11Marquette
5Henry WalkerSF6-6220October 9, 1987us4Kansas State
21Hassan WhitesideC7-0265June 13, 1989us2Marshall
43Shawne Williams
 

jawnswoop

It's A Philly Thing
BGOL Investor
Kevin Love and Kyrie had never played in playoff games before. Some "Big 3". Love played in this last Finals off the Heat bench. Out of all of LeBron's teammates in 21 seasons him and Wade the only 2 to appear in a Finals without him. Both did it once. :giggle:
Well you forgot to mentioned wade was able to win a championship without lebron something you can't say the same for lebron because he needed wade at the time.
 

largebillsonlyplease

Large
BGOL Legend
Bosh played the entire 2015 season when they missed the playoffs. If the team was old and decrepit and only functioned well when healthy, not really a "super team" ehh?

The reality is that Wade and Bosh underperformed as Heatles but were never going to take the scrutiny for it because fans, yourself included, were and are more invested in diminishing LeBron than actually holding all 3 accountable for their play as "superstars". Nobody cares about Wade or Bosh's legacies and both players were overrated to make it seem like LeBron had an unfair advantage and "too much help" than Michael Jordan had. Once Bron realized that he left. The fact they missed the playoffs the year after with 2 all stars and he went to the Finals on a new team says a lot. The fact they haven't won anything as a franchise in the 10 years since he left and lost to LeBron in 2020 says even more.
Wade and bosh definitely underperformed
 

therealjondoe

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
It was easy to see they were all broken down after that run
They were broken down in the finals that had a lot to do with his Exodus from them as well

They're not off the hook it's unacceptable


However to say heat culture is nothing without bron is not ok
He built the culture yes

They been to the playoffs and been in the finals twice including this past season

Like let's be honest about All of it

He built the culture yes

The culture still exists in some measure and has nothing to do with pat
But everything to do with coach spo and his all time ability to cultivate talent taking the scraps pat barely gets and turns them into gems
Remember the Heat were a trash expansion team pre Riley.
He's the one that built the franchise as it exists today.
 

Complex

Internet Superstar
BGOL Investor
Sucks there's not games tonight


I understand presidential elections, local? And don't most of them have to do absentee anyway?
 

jawnswoop

It's A Philly Thing
BGOL Investor
Sucks there's not games tonight


I understand presidential elections, local? And don't most of them have to do absentee anyway?
Don't nobody give a fuck about the election, adam silver did this dumb shit not having games because of the election, sometimes I be thinking why the fuck is he a commissioner.

Basketball games always used to be on during the election.
 

Complex

Internet Superstar
BGOL Investor
College should have made today the first day of the season, instead of last night

and made it an event
 

KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
Remember the Heat were a trash expansion team pre Riley.
He's the one that built the franchise as it exists today.

They have the same amount of chips as Cleveland without the LeBron years. As it exists today is an expansion that pretends it's been more successful than it has been.

Because our leading scorer and our best defender were both hurt

No you lost because you had no answer for LeBron and couldn't stop his passing attack. He led the league in assists that entire season and was far and away the best playmaker in the league at age 35.

 

jawnswoop

It's A Philly Thing
BGOL Investor
Damn shame hardly nobody was at that game when angel reeese LSU team played and they got their ass whoop in the season opener.
 

therealjondoe

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
They have the same amount of chips as Cleveland without the LeBron years. As it exists today is an expansion that pretends it's been more successful than it has been.



No you lost because you had no answer for LeBron and couldn't stop his passing attack. He led the league in assists that entire season and was far and away the best playmaker in the league at age 35.


So our leading scorer played?
Bam wasn't hurt also?
 

HotNixon36

Rising Star
BGOL Investor




Everybody knows Lebronda and Lebronsexuals are all cap...

Lebron last League MVP and 1st Team All Defensive Team was 2013 in Miami.

Since then, the only awards accolades he has won is 1 assist title, 1 Finals MVP, and one Mickey Mouse, bubble wrapped Finals MVP.

Miami seasons are the only reason he is in the GOAT conversation, those years amplified his career while playing with a Super Team.
 
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