Star Wars: The Mandalorian (official Series Discussion Thread) Update (Season 3 drops Feb 2023)

ThaBurgerPimp

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As mentioned there are plenty of female characters Star Wars fans love
She slowly starting to become one of them..and she might get her own Disney + show down the line

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SamSneed

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I have to admit reading this thread some of you dudes in here are weird as fuck and seriously got some issues with women.

Yall only want to see white men in the Empire and anything ele if forced diversity??

Yall really get mad at seeing women on the screen or in video games??

Yall are getting nit picky about fight scenes in a TV show while at the same time wishing that the character you're complaining about was in a live action show.....AND SHE IS.

I've heard it said how Star Wars fans are toxic as fuck and y'all are proving it to be true.

I expect this bullshit from CACs cause they're weak but damn y'all are sounding just like them.
Bro they are faggits plain and simple
 

crazycac50

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I have to admit reading this thread some of you dudes in here are weird as fuck and seriously got some issues with women.

Yall only want to see white men in the Empire and anything ele if forced diversity??

Yall really get mad at seeing women on the screen or in video games??

Yall are getting nit picky about fight scenes in a TV show while at the same time wishing that the character you're complaining about was in a live action show.....AND SHE IS.

I've heard it said how Star Wars fans are toxic as fuck and y'all are proving it to be true.

I expect this bullshit from CACs cause they're weak but damn y'all are sounding just like them.

I never thought I'd see the term "forced diversity" being used on BGOL. These dudes wanting everything to remain all white all male all the time are strange to me.
 

Darrkman

Hollis, Queens = Center of the Universe
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I never thought I'd see the term "forced diversity" being used on BGOL. These dudes wanting everything to remain all white all male all the time are strange to me.

A lot of these dudes on here busy watching all these YouTube channels that complain about women in movies and parrot all the shit they're hearing forgetting that it's a bunch of white boy incels.
 

geechiedan

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From a Star Wars historical perspective, yes. The Empire was always run by white men. Never any women and never any Aliens. Only Alien allowed in any high ranks was Thrawn.

See above. I have no problem with them including women in the Rebel Alliance, but having women and women commanders in the Empire is forced and goes against what has been established.

I'm glad Ahsoka finally made it to Live Action, I only wanted to see her fight like she did in Clone Wars because I wanted to see that style on screen.

Toxic because we criticize a franchise we love? Oh you one of them Terry Crews "Toxic Masculinity is the devil" types?
As mentioned already in this thread, the Empire was modeled after the Nazis by Lucas.

The Third Reich was full of White Dudes.

How many Nazi women commanders were there?
I think that line of thought is being myopic to the big picture about what the holy trilogy established. Yes the empire is modeled after the nazis although we see the rebels doing an actual nazi ceremony
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and these are the GOOD GUYS! :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:

but the point at that time was to distinguish between the good and bad guys... and the best model to illustrate that at that time was the nazis.

Our real life racial and ethnic dynamics shouldn't have an influence on a fictional story set in a far away galaxy and to nitpick it to that degree is kinda ridiculous and making up reasons to complain about something.

If lucas had made the OT today there would most certainly be more POC and women at any rank on both sides empire and rebels.

or are we forgetting this character from the comics in the 80s
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who was an officer and spy for the empire and a sith lord...

And I notice that NO ONE complains about white male characters who are thinly drawn or unnecessary...not as much as POC or female. There is definitely a conditioning that's at play here.
 
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EPDC

El Pirate Del Caribe
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I think that line of thought is being myopic to the big picture what the holy trilogy established. Yes the empire is modeled after the nazis although we see the rebels doing an actual nazi ceremony
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and these are the GOOD GUYS! :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:

but the point at that time was to distinguish between the good and bad guys... and the best model to illustrate that at that time was the nazis.

Our real life racial and ethnic dynamics shouldn't have an influence on a fictional story set in a far away galaxy and to nitpick it to that degree is kinda ridiculous and making up reasons to complain about something.

If lucas had made the OT today there would most certainly be more POC and women in the empire at any rank on both sides.

or are we forgetting this character from the comics in the 80s
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who was an officer and spy for the empire and a sith lord...

And I notice that NO ONE complains about white male characters who are thinly drawn or unnecessary...not as much as POC or female. There is definitely a conditioning that's at play here.
Not nitpicking. Just pointing out adjustments that, in my mind, change the Empire, entirely too much from what was established in the originals.

The Rebel Alliance was diverse. The Empire wasn't.

That's basically been at the core of the argument.

As far as the character you posted, I'm not familiar with her. Didn't read the comic books in the 80s and most of what I'm going with is Live Action films, TV series, EU novels or video games.
 

geechiedan

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Not nitpicking. Just pointing out adjustments that, in my mind, change the Empire, entirely too much from what was established in the originals.

The Rebel Alliance was diverse. The Empire wasn't.

That's basically been at the core of the argument.


As far as the character you posted, I'm not familiar with her. Didn't read the comic books in the 80s and most of what I'm going with is Live Action films, TV series, EU novels or video games.

the empire was established and organized the rebels were insurgents and ragtag the diversity your talking about in the OT is one black man and one woman. Also lucas effectively retconned that in the PT with jango fett a nonwhite person making up the clone army and moff gideon clearly a black man a part of the remnants of the empire in Mandalorian. Plus what about the big deal EVERY fan boy made about capt phasma? That went nowhere quickly didn't it? :giggle: no one had a problem a female captain of the stormtroopers at the time.

People are picking and choosing what they want to issue with then complain about it in the echo chamber called social media... it whips up into a frenzy and goes viral and the next thing you know a movie studio is making adjustments to a story to appease some nitpickers who can never be pleased. :smh::smh::smh:
 

EPDC

El Pirate Del Caribe
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the empire was established and organized the rebels were insurgents and ragtag the diversity your talking about in the OT is one black man and one woman. Also lucas effectively retconned that in the PT with jango fett a nonwhite person making up the clone army and moff gideon a part of the remnants of the empire in Mandalorian. Plus what about the big deal EVERY fan boy made about capt phasma? That went nowhere quickly didn't it? :giggle: no one had a problem a female captain of the stormtroopers at the time. People are picking and choosing what they want to issue with then complain about it in an echo chamber social media it whips up into a frenzy and goes viral and the next thing you know a movie studio is making adjustments to a story to appease some nitpickers who can never be pleased. :smh::smh::smh:
The rebel Alliance was very diverse in the original Trilogy.

Plenty of females, Black and Asian pilots of the fleet. They also had Alien fighters in their ranks.

As far as Phasma, I never cared for the character, as she was pretty shitty.

Great look but she was basically the Boba Fett of the Sequel Trilogy. Awesome looking character but did nothing and died like a chump.
 

geechiedan

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The rebel Alliance was very diverse in the original Trilogy.

Plenty of females, Black and Asian pilots of the fleet. They also had Alien fighters in their ranks.

As far as Phasma, I never cared for the character, as she was pretty shitty.

Great look but she was basically the Boba Fett of the Sequel Trilogy. Awesome looking character but did nothing and died like a chump.
The rebel Alliance was very diverse in the original Trilogy.

Plenty of females, Black and Asian pilots of the fleet. They also had Alien fighters in their ranks.

As far as Phasma, I never cared for the character, as she was pretty shitty.

Great look but she was basically the Boba Fett of the Sequel Trilogy. Awesome looking character but did nothing and died like a chump.
I discount the aliens because of course they're there..we're talking about humans. And I'll grant or concede that things started to open up A BIT on the rebel side with mon mothma in that ONE scene as the rebel leader and an asian dude getting shot down in ROTJ but it wasn't like they had big screen time and for 2/3rd of OT all we had was leia and lando as examples of diversity...it was almost like they had to slow walk it in cuz too many too soon will make fanboys heads pop off.
 

EPDC

El Pirate Del Caribe
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I discount the aliens because of course they're there..we're talking about humans. And I'll grant or concede that things started to open up A BIT on the rebel side with mon mothma in that ONE scene as the rebel leader and an asian dude getting shot down in ROTJ but it wasn't like they had big screen time and for 2/3rd of OT all we had was leia and lando as examples of diversity...it was almost like they had to slow walk it in cuz too many too soon will make fanboys heads pop off.
You can't discount the Aliens because there were no Alien Officers in the Empire where as there were Admirals on the Rebel Alliance.

Speaking of diversity, the Rebel Alliance was. The Empire wasn't.
 

ViCiouS

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I discount the aliens because of course they're there..we're talking about humans. And I'll grant or concede that things started to open up A BIT on the rebel side with mon mothma in that ONE scene as the rebel leader and an asian dude getting shot down in ROTJ but it wasn't like they had big screen time and for 2/3rd of OT all we had was leia and lando as examples of diversity...it was almost like they had to slow walk it in cuz too many too soon will make fanboys heads pop off.
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"THE MAN"

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Depending on the time period it can make sense for more women and minorities. Where they are at in Mando it's whoever is willing to fight. But still mostly humans in the Empire. Their numbers are dwindling. But at their strongest (before the events of episode 4) it would definitely be mostly white males at the top.
 

Stop these faggits!

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Clone wars was by far the best story telling of any Star Wars; one reason is because it just wasnt about Skywalkers; but the problem is the movies didnt coincide with the clone wars or rebels enough; so there were a lot of holes because of that; but clone and rebels actually showed story behind a lot of different characters; animation was ok, but the stories were superior....
The movies didnt coincide with those shows because those shows are retcons. I dislike rebels. Rebels should be been mainly about kanan not ezra. They shouldve never made ezra force sensitive. I feel like rebels doesn't belong in the star wars u diverse and that shiw wouldn't have happened if it wasnt for the Disney takeover. Stat wars resistance is an even bigger pile of garbage
 

Stop these faggits!

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I suggest you re-watch the OT
I couple of black extras in cloud city on landos security detail. One barely visible black e tra in mos Disney. Only one black pilot during the battle of the second death star and he was the first onscreen death in that battle.
 

Day_Carver

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The movies didnt coincide with those shows because those shows are retcons. I dislike rebels. Rebels should be been mainly about kanan not ezra. They shouldve never made ezra force sensitive. I feel like rebels doesn't belong in the star wars u diverse and that shiw wouldn't have happened if it wasnt for the Disney takeover. Stat wars resistance is an even bigger pile of garbage
Why shouldn't Ezra been made force sensitive? Rebels was partially about them hunting down Jedis, young and old. So why shouldn't it be in the star wars universe? That doesn't make any sense to me...
 
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geechiedan

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You can't discount the Aliens because there were no Alien Officers in the Empire where as there were Admirals on the Rebel Alliance.

Speaking of diversity, the Rebel Alliance was. The Empire wasn't.
but you're argument effectively puts you in the same camp with all those cacs that was like EWWW A BLACK STORMTROOPER! Stormtroopers aren't BLAAACK! ARRRGH ARRRGH ARRRGH GODDAMN DIVERSITY!!!:pain::pain::pain::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Are you saying just SEEING Finn and a seeing a woman in a empire officer uniform really disturbed your movie experience that much???
 

EPDC

El Pirate Del Caribe
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but you're argument effectively puts you in the same camp with all those cacs that was like EWWW A BLACK STORMTROOPER! Stormtroopers aren't BLAAACK! ARRRGH ARRRGH ARRRGH GODDAMN DIVERSITY!!!:pain::pain::pain::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Are you saying just SEEING Finn and a seeing a woman in a empire officer uniform really disturbed your movie experience that much???
No.

I have no problem seeing diversity onscreen so long as it made sense in the world already established.

I'll buy into the First Order being diverse over them retconning the Empire being deverse.

Didn't have issues with Finn, Phasma or others in the sequels. It took place well after the Empire fell.

I did have issues with them cramming women in roles they weren't shown in during the original Trilogy in video games set during the OT or in films/TV shows that take place around the OT.
 

geechiedan

Rising Star
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No.

I have no problem seeing diversity onscreen so long as it made sense in the world already established.

I'll buy into the First Order being diverse over them retconning the Empire being deverse.

Didn't have issues with Finn, Phasma or others in the sequels. It took place well after the Empire fell.

I did have issues with them cramming women in roles they weren't shown in during the original Trilogy in video games set during the OT or in films/TV shows that take place around the OT.
Mandalorian is set only a few years after the OT...the empire characters in the last episode alone...that female empire officer in that old town..in order for her to have that position means she was a ranking officer at the time luke leia and han were running and gunning... your saying she's an issue? She brings down the authenticity of what the empire is about?

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I'll help you accept when they retcon stuff like that...its a big galaxy!

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The idea that only old white males would be in control of such a vast region is just not likely again in a fictional story where lucas just wanted to distinguish between the bad guys and good guys and used the nazis as a model not literal. Why that played out like that in casting in the 70s has more to do with how Hollywood and society functions in real life, infecting fiction, than anything else. As I said if lucas had done the OT TODAY you would most assuredly be seeing women and POC in this scene..

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and you would think nothing of it. Them retconning empire personnel with women in extended universe stories before or during the OT doesn't and shouldn't disturb what the OT established in terms of the dynamic between who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. If anything it fills out the galaxy.

And that brings us back to the "make it different but make it the same!" demand fanboys keep talking about.
 

EPDC

El Pirate Del Caribe
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Dope episode this week. Though it was a short episode it got straight to the point.

Feel bad Mando loses his ship, hopefully he gets another of the same model.

Liked seeing the Dark Troopers come to life onscreen.

Something about seeing Slave 1 flying through the air makes me smile. Love that ship.
 

EPDC

El Pirate Del Caribe
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Favreau and Filoni seem to be listening to the fans (Rosario as Ahsoka). I can definitely see Sebastian Stan quietly being pulled in to play Luke. In fact, I can see him showing up at seasons end answering Grogu's call from today's episode. Basically an end scene to close out the season.

Just depends on if there are any scheduling conflicts with Falcon and Winter Soldier, but with Stan already in the Disney family, and fans calling for, it only makes sense for Disney to pull the trigger.

I want an Ahsoka series but will settle for an Ahsoka and Luke series as they search the galaxy for force sensitive youth to rebuild the order....
 
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