Jeeeezus!
That shit was cold blooded
I mean Stringer had his faults but Prez nigga?
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That shit was cold blooded
I mean Stringer had his faults but Prez nigga?
lol this anti stringer thing is becoming a bgol trend like sheabutter.
Intresting...
Nah D said he was gonna eat the time iirc ...
Bodie a snitchlol i give up.
I know we are beating this show/thread into the ground but here's something i dont think anybody weighed in on... what do you cats think about carcetti?
he was a good cat as far as politicians go but i see him turning from idealistic whiteboy to your avg run of the mill career politician over the course of a few terms. he played the game pretty well.
carcetti has no soul
Yeah all the business moves were string ... true he made some fatal mistakes (plus he snitched on Avon) ... but for the most part String took them from a street gang to potentially a major syndicate ... he even thought up the Co-Op which was good until Marlo showed up
Don't get me wrong string is no role model but he is a damn good #2 ... just got a little too greedy towards the end that's all
That was all on the school board. They hid that from Royce. The only reason it came out was because a) they couldn't roll it over anymore, b) they got new school board officials and c) it was a White mayor.
All Royce wanted was to be Mayor. He wanted to be he man "in the streets". Carcetti had designs on being "the Greek".
Carcetti screwed over his boy Tony Gray (who really wanted to be mayor and help) just so he could not even serve a full-term and become governor. Royce would've walked his ass up to Annapolis and kissed the Republican governor's ass, got that money, saved the schools which would then allow for money in the police budget which takes care of Marlo.
Bodie a snitch
Refresh my memory haven't seen the show in a minute...how was Bodie a snitch? I remember cats thought he was snitching...but McNulty bailed him out and was just hollering @ him for a few before they parted ways
Yeah but Monk saw Bodie getting in the car with McNulty and assumed the worst.
And Bodie was gonna give up Marlo...
"I do what I gotta, just don't ask me to live on my knees"
Don't sound lie a "snitch" to me. McNulty got Bodie killed, but Bodie didn't snitch on Marlo cause he didn't KNOW shit about Marlo. He ain't even really know what happened to Lil Kevin. McNulty got him killed just like McNulty got Wallace killed and indirectly even got D'Angelo killed...Hell, he damn near got Kima killed
I'm convinced the smartest cat on that street was Poot
"do the chair understand we gonna look like some punk ass bitches?"
Don't sound lie a "snitch" to me. McNulty got Bodie killed, but Bodie didn't snitch on Marlo cause he didn't KNOW shit about Marlo. He ain't even really know what happened to Lil Kevin. McNulty got him killed just like McNulty got Wallace killed and indirectly even got D'Angelo killed...Hell, he damn near got Kima killed
I'm convinced the smartest cat on that street was Poot
"do the chair understand we gonna look like some punk ass bitches?"
Bodie didnt snitch. He got too close with Mcnulty. That lil piece always seemed a little unrealistic to me. Aint know way a cat with a corner on lock is accepting rides or sitting down for lunch with a detective. Shit doesnt even look right. I could see Poot of Deangelo going w/ that bullshit but not Bodie. i fucked with him but he deserved what he got tho.
Yea this was a running theme... cats that thought they could change the game... "they wanted it to be one way".
I would throw Carcetti in that box too even thought I know you probably wouldnt.
Yea this was a running theme... cats that thought they could change the game... "they wanted it to be one way".
I would throw Carcetti in that box too even thought I know you probably wouldnt.
I mean Stringer had his faults but Prez nigga?
after a couple days to think on it, i think stringer bell was more like herc than prez. a perpetual fuck-up whose grand designs were always miserable failures (fuzzy dunlop - wireless mic on loan in a tennis ball, the camera that marlo's people stole - checked out with no authorization from his lieutenant, dropping the ball on handing randy wagstaff to bunk, not keeping his word to protect bubbles)
wasn't it revealed at the round table that the mayor's office did know about it? and allowed it to snowball?
explain?
Rightfully so...Bodie was another strong character who had potential to rise through the ranks if he would have lived.But what got Bodie was the ruthlessness reckless dictatorship that was being dished down from Marlo.I think if Avon could have gotten to Bodie and he surrounded himself with the right type of people he could have stood his ground with Marlo alot better but since he didn't,it was two choices:Give in or death.
Poot didn't have no business out on those corners to begin with and after the death of Bodie,I think it sinked in that he didn't belong out there.He wasn't like those heartless cold motherfuckers,he just wanted to make money and thats just one part of the game.He was smart,smart enough to know when to cut his loses and move on.
Nah, you can't put none of them bodies on McNulty. Maybe Bodie. Definitely not Wallace. The streets didn't know Wallace was actually snitching, String was just cleaning shit up. McNulty ain't do shit. Same with D'Angelo.
Bodie was willing to give up Marlo on the strength of him being bad "for the game". Lil' Kevin's death made him realize that Marlo was a whole different kind of cat, much different than what the game used to be. He "had to fall".
The parallels between Bodie and Frank Sobotka are there. Both men were pretty much "selfless", Bodie was a team player to the fullest even when he didn't want to be and Frank was all about the union. Both men wanted to cooperate with authorities but didn't and wouldn't hurt their own men, just the bad elements in the game. Both men were killed because of snitching.
Man what show y'all watch? Bodie was clearly snitching. He said "I ain't no snitch...but kats like Marlo got to go." That scene in the garden wasn't unrealistic at all. Bodie and McNulty have known each other for years. Hell they had a friendly relationship. McNulty respected Bodie for surviving so long in a game that gets you killed or arrested. While everyone went down for Amsterdam, Bodie found another way AGAIN to be a "smart ass pawn" and survive. Why do you think McNulty was so pissed when Bodie died? Not because a source of information was lost, but because his "friend" Bodie was dead.
Bodie caught a ride with the same detectives that beat his ass in Season 1. Remember when he punched that old cop and Herc and Carver and Kima beat his ass? They gave him a ride home to his granny house like 2 weeks later when the charges were dropped. Herc sat down and had a convo with his granny. Not all cop/criminal relationships are hostile. It's a ride home from jail. I mean in the Avon days, Avon would probably ask you some questions or some shit, but he wouldn't kill you on GP for riding home with a cop.
Bodie ain't have the muscle to go at Marlo or even stand up to him. He couldn't even reach out to Prop Joe cause Joe was on that peace shit. Avon didn't even really have the muscle to go at Marlo and win. Bodie never had the right "bloodline" to be a kingpin, if you know what I mean. He was destined to be (at highest) a soldier. Most kingpins have family ties or grew up with niggas that had family ties. Bodie's relationship with D'Angelo was contentious at best.
Poot saw it a while ago. Catch how he checked Bodie on how they killed Wallace when String thought he was snitching (with no proof, even though he was) and how that was similar to Lil Kevin snitching (with no proof, even though he wasn't). When the boss think you're a snitch, you're a snitch. Avon, more likely Stringer, would've made the same call. Honestly though, now that I think about it, Stringer was always the nigga wanting someone to get killed. The only nigga Avon wanted dusted was Omar or one of his bitches.
Don't forget Poot's better quote "The world going one way, people another" talking about global warming and yet people are getting more and more sinister. To me, Poot was just a nigga who grew up with Bodie and them and just played gangster to get pussy. After jail and watching his friends die, he was like "fuck it".
Bodie was not clearly snitchin you on some A to Z shit w/ this 1...you are taking that line and running w/ it...maybe you can make the inference that if McNulty kept working him he mighta flipped but that nigga won't snitchin...that line you quote is just what it is...he wanted Marlo to go but he wasn't willing to snitch to do it...get outta here w/ that 1 man
exactly.
You'd have to be an idiot to think that Bodie wasn't going help them with Marlo after that. The same way Wallace did. Man don't you see the parallels? Wallace's death cause D to start snitching and Lil Kevin's did (or was) to Bodie. Both deaths opened each other's eyes to how ruthless the organization was. D basically gave the same speech about not having each others' back when they asked him to take the 20 years.
C'mon son. And even then, Bodie snitching wasn't wrong IMO. Marlo and those niggas had stepped outside the bounds of the game.
That plus let us not forget that Bodie was the only cat that was ready to step to Marlo, Snoop and Chris. He just ain't have any muscle. So when he says something like "they got to go" he could mean he's ready to settle shit on the street. The thing about that scene is that Bodie was talking plain truth. He was not even trying to hide or obscure the fact that he sold mass amounts of drugs in a conversation with a detective
C'mon son. I took the time to transcribe the damn scene above. Read it. He is clearly snitching.
Why would he say "I'm not snitching on none of my boys" if he wasn't gonna snitch? Watch the scene and watch his face and the pauses and listen to his words. He knew he couldn't go at Marlo (look at how many had tried and failed). Once they killed Kevin, he realized that the game had changed up. C'mon y'all.
bodie didn't snitch on anyone.
but i agree that bodie was telling mcnulty that he would (future tense) roll over on marlo.
and i disagree that it was the same way wallace rolled over.
wallace was troubled by the level of violence executed on brandon.
bodie was disturbed by what he felt was a wanton disregard for human life. after all, bodie was a murderer himself, so he had no problem with a person getting got for the "right" reason(s).
BTW, you could've also included mcnulty's conversation with beadie. he told her he was getting ready to turn bodie, wrap [bodie] up and hand him over to lester freamon as a gift.
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Bodie was already heated Marlo was impeding on Avon's turf and the nigga got fed up because String was being a pussy talking about some Marlo a small time nigga don't worry about him while Marlo was blatently talking their shit. Avon wanted to get it in with Marlo in the worse way so yes Bodie would have gladly helped Avon go to work.
Yeah, future tense, not past tense. I thought I was making that obvious.
It's the same was Wallace, just that Wallace was more bitch than Bodie. Bodie had a higher level of tolerance. It took some big shit for Bodie to say "fuck it". Look at Kima. She saw a lot of shit. It just took some big shit for her to snitch on her own people. Unlike Carver who was snitching from day one.
To go back to Stringer, it's not that he's just some colossal fuckup, it's that he just bit off more than he could chew. He thought because he was a boss in one game, he'd be able to instantly be a boss in the next. He tried to do too much too soon. He wasn't an idiot, just simply blinded by his ambition. That's in regards to his business dealings.
i disagree. based on his actions, stringer proved incompetent in both arenas, and thus never a boss in either.
the only difference being that stringer didn't have avon to back his play and cover any of his mistakes in the construction/development endeavors.
He did prove to be incompetent, but he was still a boss. An incompetent boss, but one nonetheless.
He was a boss is business too. He just owned some properies that didn't get the grants. He was incompetant there to. Stringer, when he was following orders, was great. He needed to never be TOP DOG. By the time Season 3 starts, under Prop Joe's guidance, Stringer has isolated himself so much from the game that he can't be touched. Major Crimes is about to give up on this nigga, he's in the free. But NOOOOO, he had to try and convince Marlo himself to take the Barksdale package. He went to gangsta nigga like Marlo with that better business bureau shit. If String had just fallen back, he gets out the game (for the most part). Stringer sucked at reading people. Hell, I think Shamrock was carrying the organization in Avon's absnce.
And you have to be an idiot not to know what 'inference' mean...like I said you can easily make that inference but you didn't say that you said he was "clearly snitchin"...Bodie was not a snitch
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People forget that in season 3 Slim Charles and them had the drop on Marlo....just waiting on the go ahead from Avon.
nah i mentioned that earlier. if the boss woulda been playing his part marlo woulda been a dead man. slim wasnt no typa joke at all.
