That's cool. last ppv I went to was St. Valentine's Massacre back in 99. lol
THE WRESTLING THREAD: HELL HAS FROZE OVER JOHN CENA HAS GONE FULL HEEL
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That's cool. last ppv I went to was St. Valentine's Massacre back in 99. lol
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HitC can usually be counted on to produce at least one good cage match.
I'm thinking Orton vs. Sheamus but that could be where they bring back HHH against Sheamus.
If Miz had beaten Bryan, I didn't see him winning the belt but now that he's no longer US champ, it's different.
I'm going back to his not winning if he gets the US belt back. Miz will be a champion of some sort come Survivor Series.
I used to live in Memphis when it came to the Pyramid. I wanted to go so bad.
WWE would go to the pyramid and WCW would go to the mid south coliseum.
I forgot to mention when I posted about WWE not using talent correctly when they came to their company or switch shows.
My question is does anyone think Al Snow could have been a big star in WWE if they had pushed him? Al Snow probably had one if the largest following in the original ECW. Al was over big time.
My question is does anyone think Al Snow could have been a big star in WWE if they had pushed him? Al Snow probably had one if the largest following in the original ECW. Al was over big time.
so I guess Nexus comes to an end in two weeks, what a waste!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought ECW gave him a great gimmick that would have translated well in WWF. It had some run in it for a while but they left him as a tag and/or comedy guy. I never saw Snow as World champion material but he should have had at least top IC contender.
As of now, TNA should put a few of their Knockouts with him for intense training and let him produce their matches.
Or worse, we have to suffer through Cena being a "member". It'll be worse than when Rey was forced to join the LWO.
Daniel Bryan is getting over with the crowd (gotdammit give him better entrance music!!) and Orton is WAYYY over with the crowd.
That means Cena will lose.....join Nexus, and in a bizarre twist of fate a few weeks after, Nexus turns on Wade Barrett making Cena the new super heel......
..........I hope.
At the time Snow was signed to the WWF and was on loan to ECW if I remember correctly so they could have taken this gimmick and ran with it but they chose not to.The gimmick would have gotten him over for awhile. I don't know if he would have ever been a big star.
This was another instance of Heyman coming up with an interesting gimmick that utilized somebody correctly and got them over.
Thing is, that guys seem to do much better coming from Raw than they do going to Raw. Other than the Miz I can't think of too many guys who got bigger once they came to the "A show" which is why I think Michael Hayes does a much better job than the people who write for Raw.
Problem with that is that much like when Evolution turned on Orton I just don't see people caring about Barrett as a face.
He can still be a heel.........on smackdown. They really need to give him a new finisher.
I remember that. At the WCW would be in memphis every other week.
Naomi!!! Wooo!!!
In the gold pants!!! Wooo!!!
And they tight!!! Wooo!!!
With the booty pushin' heels on, nigga!!! Wooooooo-who-who Woooooo!!!
I just can't see the WWE breaking formula and not have him feud with the group that kicks him out. As a matter of fact, if wrestling has a bible that is a scripture.Thou shalt feud with group that removeth thine wrestler.
Oh yeah, AJ is cute as hell and Alicia Fox is looking sexy as fuck in her short dress.
I think we should realize by now that WWE doesn't really give a shit what's "over" or not. The most important question about Cena turning heel (not happening any time soon) is "Is there another guy selling merch like Cena?" If Orton can do that or Bryan, then a heel turn is possible. But with new t-shirts and a movie out (dvd should be out in a few weeks), he's not going anywhere.
Oh God, yeah. I thought he had the worst finisher until I saw Heath Slater's.
Yeah it is.
You could put Cena in that category. He wasn't on Smackdown for much longer after he defeated JBL for the title or did he get moved the very next night?
If Cena loses to Barrett he will just destroy the group from the inside. Kinda like how Punk caused chaos from the inside when he joined the New Breed.
Being heel doesn't automatically mean less merc sales, remember the NWO shirt that everyone had/has?
Yes but Cena's fan base consists of young children & women. I doubt kids will still be fans of Cena if he turns heel.
This Cena talk makes me think of the reaction Cena got at the ECW arena. One of the funniest moments in wrestling history.
They threw Cena hat & shirt back at him. A black guy rubbed the shirt on his crotch then threw it back.
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Cena is one of the exceptions and that was when Smackdown could still be seen as nearly on par with Raw. Now it's openly the B show but it has the most cohesive storytelling of any nationally televised wrestling show.
It doesn't but that's what usually happens. Heels don't sell merchandise on the level of babyfaces, the nWo notwithstanding.
Yep. I see and hear people try to compare a possible Cena turn to Hogan's in 96 but Hulk's turn was the perfect storm: he had been a top face for well over a decade but he was seen as an "enemy interloper" by a huge number of WCW fans. Cena gets booed because he's not interesting and a lot of fans see him as being rammed down our throats. WWE had a chance to get him over on the Rock/Austin/Hogan level but they messed it up by taking away all the "edge" the character had.
This Cena talk makes me think of the reaction Cena got at the ECW arena. One of the funniest moments in wrestling history.
They threw Cena hat & shirt back at him. A black guy rubbed the shirt on his crotch then threw it back.
Classic.
I don't like Cena but I'll give him credit for two things: he works hard in the ring and he fully understands that a lot of people don't like him and never will.
It's definitely going to be Cena
Half the people already hate him as a face, imagine the boos he'd get if nobody cheers for him, they have to give him a good storyline though.
Half the people already hate him as a face, imagine the boos he'd get if nobody cheers for him, they have to give him a good storyline though.
Two very interesting pieces of TNA Knockout news
They have a ppv scheduled exclusively for the Knockouts. It's going to be clips and not new matches. Strange for them to devote this kind of energy to the division now that's it's watered down and revolves completely around the Beautiful People.
And
They've signed Mickie James and she may debut at the live show Oct. 7 or Bound For Glory (I'd do the live show since more people will be watching but this is TNA).
Now if they go ahead and sign Katie Lea and give Daffney and Hamada more time, they could really get this ship going back into the right direction.
They have a ppv scheduled exclusively for the Knockouts. It's going to be clips and not new matches. Strange for them to devote this kind of energy to the division now that's it's watered down and revolves completely around the Beautiful People.
And
They've signed Mickie James and she may debut at the live show Oct. 7 or Bound For Glory (I'd do the live show since more people will be watching but this is TNA).
Now if they go ahead and sign Katie Lea and give Daffney and Hamada more time, they could really get this ship going back into the right direction.
God i hate kids
What's funny is cena is suppose to be the wwe pretty boy, but old ass hhh/hbk attracted the younger bustier broads while cena attracts those fat homely looking skags
at first that was really who i thought it was as the "mystery biker" before seeing it was Tara..
Ass wasn't big enough. It would have had more impact if it was. Now it's just a mess.
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He used to be Lance Hoyt in TNA. Good young big man. I thought they were going to do something with him and Curt Hawkins as a tag but they lost to the Dudebusters and Cody and McIntyre are the champs.
He can do a moonsault from the top rope. Waiting to see if he pulls that out in WWE.
yeah the Layla thing is funny, people forget SHE is the fucking women's champion, she won the title and they basically made her share the thing with Taker's ol lady
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I doubt WWE will let him use the moonsault. Vince dosen't like his big men flying.
Brock could nail the sss from the middle of the ring with perfection, but they didn't allow him to use the move.
For what ever reason Brock didn't fully rotate.
Michelle McCool is the new Shawn Michaels circa 95-98. She's singlehandedly gutted the division because whenever a Diva looks like she's going to outshine Michelle they move her or have her put Michelle over with no getback. Even when she loses, she wins. I've seen a lot of stuff in my life but I've never seen the "Freebird rule" used for a singles title.
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I doubt WWE will let him use the moonsault. Vince dosen't like his big men flying.
Brock could nail the sss from the middle of the ring with perfection, but they didn't allow him to use the move.
For what ever reason Brock didn't fully rotate.
I don't think Vince is totally wrong on that. When the big guys do it, it takes some of the "special" off when the smaller guys do it.
Kidman came out and said he was kind of pleased that Brock fucked up his attempt at Mania since the SSP was "his" move.
Kidman has been doing the move since the mid 90's and he was fucking up on the move regurlary near the end of his WWE run. That mother fucker was landing it crooked as hell. He even cuncuss Chavo with that move.
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He got real lazy with it and was the reason it was banned for a couple years. Evan Bourne does it perfectly.