What unpopular opinions do you have? Hip-Hop/Rap edition

Soul On Ice

Black 1st
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Reasonable Doubt was not even a top 5 Album in 1996

Atliens
The Score
All Eyez on Me
It Was Written
Hell on Earth

Throw in , Illadelphia Halflife and Muddy Waters.

Saying it is a top 5 or 10 album all time is blasphemy, and an attempt to change the narrative by the gatekeepers.


Makaveli was the GOAT album of 1996/all time,
But I'm gon let you cook

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Simply Sickenin'

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6 of the ten are strippers or come off like strippers...take away the pussy raps and who are they??

Cardi B Says It's 'So Annoying' to Record Clean Versions of Her Songs: 'Sounds Like Kidz Bop'
"I was so over it," said the rapper of making a swear-free version of recent Megan Thee Stallion collaboration "Bongos"

By Jack Irvin Published on September 28, 2023 02:40PM EDT

Word to the wise — don't censor Cardi B.

In a new appearance on the YouTube series Hot Ones, the Grammy-winning rapper got real about how "annoying" it can be to record clean versions of her songs that are appropriate to be played on pop radio.

"So annoying," said Cardi, 30, before recalling the recording process for the clean version of her recent single "Bongos" with Megan Thee Stallion. "I just did it practically two weeks ago, and I was so over it because it’s like — you know, my new song, I be like, ’N---- eat this ass like a plum’.”

Of course, those lyrics were not deemed acceptable. "I’m doing the clean version, and it’s like, ‘Baby, eat it up like a plum,’ and it’s like, ‘No, you still can’t play that for pop radio’ or whatever," she continued.

Eventually, Cardi figured out how to make the lyrics more suitable for all ages — but she wasn't happy about it. "I’m like, ‘Baby, eat these peaches and plums,’ and I was so over it," she said.

"That sounds so corny, like that sounds like Kidz Bop," added the "Bodak Yellow" performer, "but I have no choice, so, 'Baby, eat these peaches and plums.'"

Cardi doesn't seem to hold any shame over her often-vulger lyrics. Upon the release of her and Megan's first collaboration, 2020's "WAP," she spoke to Australian radio show The Kyle and Jackie O Show about claims the song was overly explicit within the context of the hip-hop and rap genre.

"The people that the song bothers are usually conservatives or really religious people, but my thing is I grew up listening to this type of music," explained Cardi at the time. "Other people might think it's strange and vulgar, but to me it's almost like really normal, you know what I'm saying?"

Cardi, who shares 5-year-old daughter Kulture Kiari with her rapper husband Offset, said she wouldn't let her then-toddler jam out to "WAP," but added that that should go without saying since her music is for grownups.

"No, of course I don't want my child to listen to this song and everything — but it's for adults," she said.

Given the way "WAP" shot to the top of the charts, enjoying the No. 1 spot upon its debut, Cardi thinks the subject matter is of interest.

"You wanna know something? It's what people wanna hear. If people didn't wanna hear it, if they were so afraid to hear it, it wouldn't be doing as good," said Cardi, who joked that it was "really hard" to rework the single into a radio-approved clean version.
I'd really love to hear some parents perspective of the following opinion....

Cleaned up versions of explicit songs, especially in hip-hop was an industry idea to sell sex to kids.

They'll all claim that radio friendly version is to boost the sales and marketability of the song/artist, but that a half lie. And all good lies have a nugget of truth buried inside.

I'm in NO WAY blaming Cardi B for the shit, cause the industry has been finding ways to sell sex to kids since at least the 50s. However, hearing little girls singing Wet & Gushy makes my skin crawl.
 

playahaitian

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I'd really love to hear some parents perspective of the following opinion....

Cleaned up versions of explicit songs, especially in hip-hop was an industry idea to sell sex to kids.

They'll all claim that radio friendly version is to boost the sales and marketability of the song/artist, but that a half lie. And all good lies have a nugget of truth buried inside.

I'm in NO WAY blaming Cardi B for the shit, cause the industry has been finding ways to sell sex to kids since at least the 50s. However, hearing little girls singing Wet & Gushy makes my skin crawl.

I NEVER thought of that way fam...

I'm gonna need a minute

But you make some very very interesting points.
 

geechiedan

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I'd really love to hear some parents perspective of the following opinion....

Cleaned up versions of explicit songs, especially in hip-hop was an industry idea to sell sex to kids.

They'll all claim that radio friendly version is to boost the sales and marketability of the song/artist, but that a half lie. And all good lies have a nugget of truth buried inside.

I'm in NO WAY blaming Cardi B for the shit, cause the industry has been finding ways to sell sex to kids since at least the 50s. However, hearing little girls singing Wet & Gushy makes my skin crawl.
Devil's advocate to a degree....

You don't think kids listen to r&b songs?? As kids we listened to all those songs in the 70s and 80s before they got really explicit trying to keep up with rappers.

How many songs talking about making love all night long to the break of dawn did you hear at 10 years old?

Cardis brand is raw explicit sex....it's what she leans into....the problem is a song called WET ASS PUSSY was number one on the mainstream chart... that's across the board. Kids arr exposed to it simple because it's dominating airplay on radio, streams and social media.

What can we do to safeguard kids childhood outside of making some watered down version that plays on metaphors rather than the straight raw lyric
 

playahaitian

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Why I even watch that?

okay this is officially the end days. These fools need to stop now. Enough bullsh*t breakdown videos with false information.

Everyone wants to be Kendrick without doing the work.



Its a great song that's enough

now this is embarrassing.

these new Kendrick fans acting worse than the Drake fans they claim to hate so much

don't tell no lies about me I won't tell the truth about you
 

cnc

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-The Drake beef has saved Kendrick from becoming overly commercialized. He’s going to get a Grammy for “Not Like Us” based off the strength of that song and the lyrics and beat being a MONSTER, and not just because white America has coined him “witty, complex, alternative” or whatever description they apply to make him a “safe negro” for the masses. Dude was always a good MC but his last album was trash imo yet got praised like it was some masterpiece.

Speaking of the West Coast still…..

-the reason the game wasn’t part of the West Coast contingent at the concert is simple to me. The Game was never a great rapper and never felt like a true West Coast MC in the vein of those that came before him and a few since. Dude was, IMO, basically planted to try and “revive” west coast rap as it’d been dead for a while while the south took over as hip-hop’s premier region. His lyrics always felt like someone who had fairly tales of being a California gangsta. JMHO.
 

geechiedan

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LUCKI partly blames Lil Wayne and JAY-Z for young rappers not being able to distinguish between different rap styles​


On Thursday, LUCKI suggested that the prolific outputs of Lil Wayne and JAY-Z contributed to a uniformity in rap music that has made it difficult for younger generations to distinguish between different styles. However, he suggested that Wayne and Jazzy did not do it on purpose. He wrote:
"They didn't even do it on purpose tho."
He further wrote, calling them the "two best rappers" and added that they have accidentally "misled" the rappers to think in a way that taking the time to write rap music is a "flaw". He further added:

"They're literally the 2 best rappers EVER.... So yeah they basically accidentally mislead every rapper from our generation to thinking taking your time & writing is a FLAW."
In 2022, in an interview on the I Am Athlete podcast, Lil Wayne recalled the moment he decided to stop writing songs at the age of 16. He revealed that the words and lyrics kept popping in his head, resulting in a headache. Lil Wayne revealed:

"The words keep popping up in my damn head, and that's when it really started happening, becoming a headache, a real problem. That's when I said, I'm not about to write no more."

On July 11, 2023, in a new interview with The Pivot Podcast on YouTube, Lil Wayne revealed that he stopped penning his lyrics inspired by Jay-Z, who apparently does not pen lyrics for rap. Lil Wayne said:

"When I heard that, the moment I heard it, I stopped writing down lyrics. I was like, 'I heard Jay-Z don't write, I won't write no more."
In 2010, in an interview with The New Yorker, Jay-Z was asked why hip-hop is not poetry. Jay-Z suggested that the comparison made hip-hop inferior to poetry. Jay-Z said:

"Alas, pleas to add hip hop to the canonical level of poetry assume that rap is in inferior to poetry, which it is not."
Moreover, LUCKI's claims about Lil Wayne and Jay-Z came after he supported Rich Amiri's walkout from the XXL Freshman Class 2024, a highly anticipated list of the 11 most promising rappers of the year.


On July 4, 2024, Luc voiced in a now-deleted Space on X about XXL magazine, implying that their Freshman Class listings prioritize engagement.

He suggested that the magazine becomes upset when artists decline to participate in their freestyle sessions, hinting at Amiri, as XXL seemingly called out the artist in their latest issue. Luc said:

"The fact that XXL could get mad that somebody don't wanna do their freestyle, Bruh, it's 2024. The fact that they still got the format the same as it was in 2013, that's how you know XXL is in it just for the engagement part. They know the freestyles is gonna be the most viral part."
LUCKI further suggested that now, people do not record or consume music the same way they used to in 2013.

LUCKI's remarks are his perspective on the matter, and it should be noted that neither Lil Wayne nor Jay-Z have publicly responded to his statement.


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BigATLslim

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Over the years I’ve came to realize Speakerbox is better than the Love Below and 3Stacks be on some bullshit. Still my top 5 favorite group
Better rap album, yes.
Eminem is ass

Big boi>>>>3stacks
I disagree, however, the difference is not the "chasm" that many hip hop enthusiasts believe it to be. Big Boi is thoroughly disrespected.
how many times can you rhyme HENNESSY with ENEMIES....:giggle::giggle::giggle:
As many times as you heard Tupac do it. The End.
FOR THE RECORD... I never said Pac sucked or was a bad rapper....just in his and biggies lifetime they were NOT on anyone's top 5 list of greatest rappers and certainly wasn't trading off the 1 and 2 spots....until AFTER they were both killed.

ya'll know this so stop the shock and surprise. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Nah, I had Pac at the top well before the downfall. You didn't hear his raps.........you FELT them.
-Nas has two decent albums Illmatic and Stillmatic and a few decent songs he's dropped over the years but a lot of that shit will never live up to those two albums.

-Guru from Gangstarr doesn't get his props for his lyrics and how dope he remained over a few decades

-UGK is overrated,I couldn't listen to their whole tape/cd never and 8ball&MJG were much better rappers and picked better beats.

-80's/90's hiphop before gangster rap was force fed to the masses was the greatest time in hiphop because it was alive,it had substance that influenced people to have fun but also stand for something and be proud to be black.

-Gangster rap helped kill a lot of us,the soundtrack to so many of our lives.

-Just cause you can make rap music doesn't mean you should make rap music

-Puffy and Suge are the main reasons 2pac and Biggie are dead,they set the stage for all of that street shit to go on,East vs West,company vs company,my crew vs your crew.Suge had Biggie killed.

-Southern rap went mainstream and lost its sound,which is like microwave popcorn.

-NYC is the birth place of hiphop/rap but the rappers/lables and people with power didn't pass the mic to no one but themselves which killed off a lot of the local talent and then they started searching for talent in other places.

-The more money came the more expensive rappers and rap became and it's at the point where it's just too expensive for most to even imagine having or enjoying the shit they claim to own;Fuck a Bentley,Maybac,a Jet,a mansion and the rest of that shiiit their wasting their money on.
I am in agreement with all of this, however, after recent develops...we might want to revisit the most recent developments...
-Lupe Fiasco was a poser

-Newsense from Psychodrama is a top 5 female MC of all time

-Eightball carried MJG. When they finally released solo albums, Eightball dropped a classic double album, MJG, left on his own, his shit was trash.

-Kendrick Lamar’s last album was trash.

-Cormega was the best MC in ‘The Firm’.

-Foxy Brown ran circles around Lil Kim as an MC, never got Kim’s level of public acclaim.
-De La Soul sucked.

-Listening to overly sexualized lyrics and copious amounts of misogyny in rap wasn’t no big deal until you started having kids, especially daughters, now it’s hard to listen to a lot of stuff.

-XXL > The Source

Part 2
-“Mr. Ice Cream Man gets a lot of credit, but “Ha” by Juve is the song that opened the south to the rest of the country.

-“Ha” is also one of, if not maybe, the greatest rap videos ever made. #2 would be “What You See Is What You Get” by Xzibit.

-Little Brother is a top 5 hip hop group of all time.

-Phonte Coleman is a top 5 MC of all time.

-Eminem had one good album, the first one. The rest was some bs angry white boy rap/rock/grunge blend where he wasn’t even rhyming he was mainly yelling. But, he knew his audience and the suburban white boys and the like ate it up.
From Day One. As much I supported Kim, my listener preference and allegiance was Foxy.

I would add it could be "Break 'Em Off Somethin'" and "Back That Azz Up." When that second record hit at the turn of the century, WHEW!
RZA>>> DRE
I don't think this is unpopular. I think it may be an agreement that those of us who enjoy the entire music process could and would agree on.
Gucci mane is VERY overrated
Jeezy fell off after his first album
However, Gucci is undisputedly "The Godfather of Trap Music" according to the rappers out after him, in the whole of Atlanta.
I was listening to some Hammer this past weekend and he had some bangers back in tje day. I still don't understand,why he got so much hate at the time.







I was ten years old when "Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em" dropped....

He had to be villified in order for the social structure to push his business model on sh!tty/detrimanal music by unsuspecting or greedy artists.
 
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A to Dah K

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Better rap album, yes.

I disagree, however, the difference is not the "chasm" that many hip hop enthusiasts believe it to be. Big Boi is thoroughly disrespected.

As many times as you heard Tupac do it. The End.

Nah, I had Pac at the top well before the downfall. You didn't hear his raps.........you FELT them.

I am in agreement with all of this, however, after recent develops...we might want to revisit the most recent developments...


From Day One. As much I supported Kim, my listener preference and allegiance was Foxy.

I would add it could be "Break 'Em Off Somethin'" and "Back That Azz Up." When that second record hit at the turn of the century, WHEW!

I don't think this is unpopular. I think it may be an agreement that those of us who enjoy the entire music process could and would agree on.

However, Gucci is undisputedly "The Godfather of Trap Music" according to the rappers out after him, in the whole of Atlanta.

He had to be villified in order for the social structure to push his business model on sh!tty/detrimanal music by unsuspecting or greedy artists.
 

RUDY RAYYY MO

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Reasonable Doubt was not even a top 5 Album in 1996

Atliens
The Score
All Eyez on Me
It Was Written
Hell on Earth

Throw in , Illadelphia Halflife and Muddy Waters.

Saying it is a top 5 or 10 album all time is blasphemy, and an attempt to change the narrative by the gatekeepers.


Oh shit, you're right. So is 96 the best or one of the best yrs in hip hop?

Speaking of RD,being in ATL I was the only out of my friends that rocked it. Jay also said if it wasn't successful he would on some fuck rap shit
 
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