"WW C"- COVID-19, GLOBAL CASES SURPASS 676 MILLION...Here we go again 2025 are we ready for Trump to fuck this up again?
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Compared to the original 55 YEARS the FDA wanted (and cosigned by a bunch of people on BGOL btw) this is a decent compromise I'd say.See. It's dumb shit like this that will fuel anti-vaxxers. Just release the fucking info. And they really went hard by requesting the release in 108 days(the time it took the FDA to approve the vaccine). If the FDA appeals, just makes the anti-vaxxers stronger.People might be soon getting their 4th dose.
I'm far from an anti-vaxxer, but I do get why people just want some transparency. Goal posts are constantly moving.
Can anyone in this thread tell me how the science is different on the other side of the globe? Anyone? Yet another country has dropped the shit down to 3 months for the boosters. Why isn't the 'follow the science' crowd hot about this shit?
So the U.S. is going to 'follow the science' in one month increments, huh?
COVID-19 Booster Wait Time Reduced to 3 Months, Available for Children Aged 12+
Luxembourg's Ministry of State and the Ministry of Health have announced that the waiting time for COVID-19... }}chronicle.lu
Luxembourg's Ministry of State and the Ministry of Health have announced that the waiting time for COVID-19 vaccine booster shots is being reduced to three months; booster shots will also be offered to children aged 12 and over.
Due to the current wave of COVID-19 infections and the threat of the Omicron variant, the Government Council decided on Friday to reduce the waiting time for booster shots to three months after a two-dose mRNA vaccine (Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech) and a “mix and match” vaccine scheme (first dose of AstraZeneca followed by second dose of mRNA vaccine) and to offer booster shots to children aged 12 and over.
The following intervals must be respected for a booster shot:
People who have tested positive for COVID-19 can receive their booster shot one month after their positive PCR test.
- from 10 January 2022, three months after a complete two-dose mRNA vaccine and a “mix and match” vaccine scheme;
- from 10 January 2022, three months after a complete two-dose AstraZeneca vaccine;
- a mRNA vaccine booster dose one month after the single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Those concerned will receive an invitation from the Luxembourg government by post to get vaccinated, with details on making an appointment in one of the country's five vaccination centres or with their GP.
The authorities recalled that Luxembourg residents who received their initial vaccination abroad are able to get their booster shot at one of the vaccination centres without an appointment.
The list of vaccination centres and GPs participating in the vaccination campaign is available on the website www.impfen.lu.
We lose track of how wild things are here in terms of the actual people and the political system. It has taken decades to get here but with the help of awful politicians and a comically bad education/healthcare system for the poor we have reached full Idiocracy. Luxembourg is less than 1/10th the size of NYC and highly educated/wealthy. The vaccination rate is 90%+. Health authorities there can be honest/realistic as they are dealing with a much more educated demographic capable of understanding that things changing daily isn't proof that this is all part of some global conspiracy but the result of this being a novel virus. For example, how many posts were there on here about the FDA withholding information regarding the vaccine when the people who originally filed the information request literally said:
The plaintiffs, a group of more than 30 professors and scientists from universities including Yale, Harvard, UCLA and Brown, filed suit in September in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas, seeking expedited access to the records. They say that releasing the information could help reassure vaccine skeptics that the shot is indeed “safe and effective and, thus, increase confidence in the Pfizer vaccine.”
Even more populous European countries than Luxembourg are still much smaller than the US and also don't have political systems that allow individual states to hold up national safety measures. How many red states are suing over mask and vaccine mandates that have already been implemented in pretty much every other Western Democracy.
If you recall, the pausing of the vaccines to confirm that they weren't causing clots was "proof" to the idiot class of the opposite. We have sitting Senators (GOP of course) openly musing about using mouthwash to stop covid and simultaneously wondering why the response here isn't on par with other countries. A GOP senator suggested gargling mouthwash to kill the coronavirus. Doctors and Listerine are skeptical.
We can't even get all of the GOP congressman/Senators to confirm they are even vaccinated but this is what is being said in France:
The pass, introduced this summer, is required in France for access to indoor public places such as cafes, restaurants, cinemas, museums, concert venues and sports centres, as well as to board long-distance trains and planes.
“In a democracy, the worst enemies are lies and stupidity,” Macron said. “We are putting pressure on the unvaccinated by limiting, as much as possible, their access to activities in social life.”
France has vaccinated almost 90% of its population who are eligible, Macron said, and it was “only a very small minority who are resisting. How do we reduce that minority? We reduce it – sorry for the expression – by pissing them off even more.”
The president, who said he wanted to run for a second term in presidential elections in April but would not make his decision public until “the health situation allows”, added that he was “not going to jail [the unvaccinated], or forcibly vaccinate them.”
So, he said, “we have to tell them: from 15 January, you will no longer be able to go to the restaurant. You will no longer be able to go for a coffee, you will no longer be able to go to the theatre. You will no longer be able to go to the cinema.”
Macron added: “When my freedoms threaten those of others, I become someone irresponsible. Someone irresponsible is not a citizen.”
Macron declares his Covid strategy is to ‘piss off’ the unvaccinated
French president stokes divisions as parliament debates tighter requirements for mandatory health pass
It should be telling that attacking the unvaccinated is seen as "good politics"...
I would have nothing to say if they didn't flood the hospitals. A lot of them have managed to bullshit their way through life by just being contrarians. The problem with this is that it leads to dumb ass fuck outcomes eg. they see that everyone is wearing a mask/getting vaccinated so of course the contrarian position is against masks/vaccines. No reason/justification needed. One of the idiots on here literally said that all the vaccine does is keep you from dying/being hospitalized but it doesn't work because it doesn't stop you from getting covid. That is what we are dealing with.
Can you imagine this being true here?
“There are very, very few people who are screaming” about new mandatory COVID-19 vaccine rules, says Andrei Postoaca, CEO of Ipsos Digital, speaking to Fortune from his home in the South of France. “I would have expected in a country like France to see people who were vaccinated saying, ‘I don’t want the country to mandate it.’ But this does not seem to happen,” he says. “The fear and acceptance of the seriousness of this is above all the opinions about what the government should do.”
In Europe, even the unvaccinated are surprisingly okay with new hardline vaccine mandates
More than one in five of the unvaccinated in France, and a similar number in Italy, support the countries' tough new COVID-19 vaccine mandates, a new Ipsos poll finds, suggesting the Omicron wave is forcing the most skeptical to rethink their positions.
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The CDC sold the country out when they said vaccinated don t need masks.
Can you think of any other western Democracy where this could be the take of the opposition party? Both sides though...
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All that doesn't have anything to do with leadership. Leaders are supposed to lead. We can throw in Germany, the UK, and Israel into the mix or 3-month club. About 150 million people across 4 countries are set to get doses 3 months apart, yet the science is different here. At lease give the ones who want the vaccine a choice to 'follow the science' along with the rest of the sane world.We lose track of how wild things are here in terms of the actual people and the political system. It has taken decades to get here but with the help of awful politicians and a comically bad education/healthcare system for the poor we have reached full Idiocracy. Luxembourg is less than 1/10th the size of NYC and highly educated/wealthy. The vaccination rate is 90%+. Health authorities there can be honest/realistic as they are dealing with a much more educated demographic capable of understanding that things changing daily isn't proof that this is all part of some global conspiracy but the result of this being a novel virus. For example, how many posts were there on here about the FDA withholding information regarding the vaccine when the people who originally filed the information request literally said:
The plaintiffs, a group of more than 30 professors and scientists from universities including Yale, Harvard, UCLA and Brown, filed suit in September in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas, seeking expedited access to the records. They say that releasing the information could help reassure vaccine skeptics that the shot is indeed “safe and effective and, thus, increase confidence in the Pfizer vaccine.”
Even more populous European countries than Luxembourg are still much smaller than the US and also don't have political systems that allow individual states to hold up national safety measures. How many red states are suing over mask and vaccine mandates that have already been implemented in pretty much every other Western Democracy.
A GOP senator suggested gargling mouthwash to kill the coronavirus. Doctors and Listerine are skeptical.
We can't even get all of the GOP congressman/Senators to confirm they are even vaccinated but this is what is being said in France:
The pass, introduced this summer, is required in France for access to indoor public places such as cafes, restaurants, cinemas, museums, concert venues and sports centres, as well as to board long-distance trains and planes.
“In a democracy, the worst enemies are lies and stupidity,” Macron said. “We are putting pressure on the unvaccinated by limiting, as much as possible, their access to activities in social life.”
France has vaccinated almost 90% of its population who are eligible, Macron said, and it was “only a very small minority who are resisting. How do we reduce that minority? We reduce it – sorry for the expression – by pissing them off even more.”
The president, who said he wanted to run for a second term in presidential elections in April but would not make his decision public until “the health situation allows”, added that he was “not going to jail [the unvaccinated], or forcibly vaccinate them.”
So, he said, “we have to tell them: from 15 January, you will no longer be able to go to the restaurant. You will no longer be able to go for a coffee, you will no longer be able to go to the theatre. You will no longer be able to go to the cinema.”
Macron added: “When my freedoms threaten those of others, I become someone irresponsible. Someone irresponsible is not a citizen.”
Macron declares his Covid strategy is to ‘piss off’ the unvaccinated
French president stokes divisions as parliament debates tighter requirements for mandatory health passwww.theguardian.com
It should be telling that attacking the unvaccinated is seen as "good politics"...
I would have nothing to say if they didn't flood the hospitals. A lot of them have managed to bullshit their way through life by just being contrarians. The problem with this is that it leads to dumb ass fuck outcomes eg. they see that everyone is wearing a mask/getting vaccinated so of course the contrarian position is against masks/vaccines. No reason/justification needed. One of the idiots on here literally said that all the vaccine does is keep you from dying/being hospitalized but it doesn't work because it doesn't stop you from getting covid. That is what we are dealing with.
Can you imagine this being true here?
“There are very, very few people who are screaming” about new mandatory COVID-19 vaccine rules, says Andrei Postoaca, CEO of Ipsos Digital, speaking to Fortune from his home in the South of France. “I would have expected in a country like France to see people who were vaccinated saying, ‘I don’t want the country to mandate it.’ But this does not seem to happen,” he says. “The fear and acceptance of the seriousness of this is above all the opinions about what the government should do.”
In Europe, even the unvaccinated are surprisingly okay with new hardline vaccine mandates
More than one in five of the unvaccinated in France, and a similar number in Italy, support the countries' tough new COVID-19 vaccine mandates, a new Ipsos poll finds, suggesting the Omicron wave is forcing the most skeptical to rethink their positions.fortune.com
Fuck all leadership in the US from top to bottom. This ain't a fucking game to me. If there is science saying get my shot at 3 months, I want it at 3 fucking months. I ain't got time for msm running cover for these incompetents just because it's their fucking people.
If earl and the shitkickers don't want the shot, fuck'em. That don't mean our leaders can't make the announcement for the rest of us. Israel, Germany, UK, and Luxenburg aint doing this shit for shits and giggles.
Politics. That's why me and the ol' lady laughed at fools in the spring. We knew this was to make folks look good and to get 'muh economy' going. Then the CDC tried to pull the same fuckery before the school year.
What happened to all the masked profile pics on twitter that the politicians used to have? To ashamed to put them back on because they tried to claim victory too soon. Should have followed the science.
And they're doing it again as to appease to corporatists and employers with these 5 day quarantine periods.
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A LOT of this bullshit is occurring due to politics.
100% but the real question is why is coming down hard on the unvaccinated "good politics" everywhere but here?
Yeah, I’m really scratching my head on the logic on that.
You don’t need a medical degree to figure out that doesn’t make sense.
Cyprus reportedly discovers a Covid variant that combines omicron and delta
The strain is being called "deltacron."
Welp its getting close to that timeCyprus reportedly discovers a Covid variant that combines omicron and delta
The strain is being called "deltacron."www.cnbc.com
Yo I think you should make this into a separate threadCyprus reportedly discovers a Covid variant that combines omicron and delta
The strain is being called "deltacron."
For what?
Just a suggestion and if you don’t like it you don’t have to look at it
What? You asked to create another thread as if you had some additional information.
But when asked you give this response? Why are you being sensitive and attacking people for a asking a question?
Cyprus reportedly discovers a Covid variant that combines omicron and delta
The strain is being called "deltacron."
I'm not an epidemiologist and in no way knowledgeable on any of this yet even I could see this coming.
Yet our "experts" in this country didn't think this was possible and instead of working to prevent it chose to reduce the quarantine time of infected individuals by half as a response
Cyprus reportedly discovers a Covid variant that combines omicron and delta
The strain is being called "deltacron."
Man. We knew there were be more strains, but this shit is relentless.
Yeah, this thread basically said this shit 18 months ago(along with 'experts' who don't seem to get listened to). Bunch of cats in an 'online barbershop' been nailing this shit for a minute now.
I'm not an epidemiologist and in no way knowledgeable on any of this yet even I could see this coming.
Yet our "experts" in this country didn't think this was possible and instead of working to prevent it chose to reduce the quarantine time of infected individuals by half as a response
Trust that our leaders get the information from experts, but it's just like the movie "don't look up!" They ignore the one group of experts and put out their own to keep an image going. I get it. Folks don't want the economy to crash. Still pisses me off.
Fuck da economy where it regards da lives of da people. That includes us. These folks are fulla shit and playin' with people's lives for da sake of greed and politics. And some are all for it as long as it's their political gang making da calls.
The funny thing is they've been pushing the narrative that while Omicron spreads easier and more rapidly than the Delta variant it's also far less severe so therfore not as much of a concern.
Now that there's a variant which both are combined what will the new narrative be, particularly if this variant starts spreading like crazy (which is more than likely?)
This virus is mutating very fast which is very concerning to me. By the time we get this virus under control a good chunk of the worlds population will be gone.
I just watched that movie and it was surprisingly good. After watching it, I even felt a sense of acceptance of human’s eventual fate knowing that people are dumb enough for this to happen and there is nothing we can do about it.
When old girl’s parent said “they wanted the comet to hit because they were for job growth” I laughed out loud because that’s how people in this country thinks.
Everything in this country is politicized.
That's out. We're far beyond da point of getting it under control.
Sadly I kind of agree with you
It will get under control the same way the Spanish flu did. Eventually enough people will have antibodies to fight off Covid and it will fade away.
You probably looking at 2025 as when cases would be virtually gone
We were supposed to have 90%+ vaccinated here months ago and focusing on other countries. Instead, we have this
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The fragility of our medical systems coupled with the long running disfunction of the education system and flaws in government are being exposed in real time.
We were supposed to have 90%+ vaccinated here months ago and focusing on other countries. Instead, we have this
The fragility of our medical systems coupled with the long running disfunction of the education system and flaws in government are being exposed in real time.
This issue was going to be a problem pandemic or not and is one of the primary reasons that businesses fought for so long to keep minimum wage so low.
Jobs that are stressful and taxing now have the burden of either paying the same as or less than places like Target, Wal-Mart, fast food restaurants, etc. and people are choosing to work in those places which are easier to deal with and have steady hours in comparison.
This issue has been spun as being the result of the pandemic but we were talking about the inevitability of this in New York state for years.
Yo Joe Biden tried to do a vaccine mandate back in September but Republicans hung everything up in the court system now look what’s going on yeah this is the Republicans Fault.We were supposed to have 90%+ vaccinated here months ago and focusing on other countries. Instead, we have this
The fragility of our medical systems coupled with the long running disfunction of the education system and flaws in government are being exposed in real time.
To many people on the GOP anti everything train for anyone to get any kind of handle on this. When 45 told people they need to get vaccinated and they turned on him showed the only endgame to this is natural selection of those who will put others in danger with crazy conspiracy theories and denying there is a virus. We almost 2 1/2 years in and some still are saying this virus is fake as they earn their Herman Cain Award.
Yep…. I remembered when that happened….
They didn’t want to wear a mask in the first place nor did they want to social distance…
Folks Got that vaccine and that shit was/have been an afterthought.
The attitude many displayed, seem like they was exempt from catching the virus…