Anyone On Here Play The Guitar/Bass?

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Just started working on the Magic "L" fellas. A simple formula to quickly locate the 1,4 and 5 chords in any key, using power chords. I'm freakin loving this!!!!!! :yes:

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Tried playing the beginning of Van Halen's "Runnin' with the Devil" from a YouTube video. Yeah right. :lol: Muthafucka was a genuis wit that guitar. I did however play the 1st two barre chords and did in fact do my 1st slide. Actually sounded pretty good and very close to how he did it!!! :eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2: Was happier than a muthafucka just to do that. :lol::lol::lol::lol: These are the two videos I looked at to play it







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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Next up I'm diving deeper into music theory and learning about the major triad and how it works starting with the number count 1, 3 and 5 from the Major C scale. Love this stuff!!!! :yes: It's intense but I want to learn it all!!!!

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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@woodchuck For a beginner Bass player such as myself, would you recommend P Bass or Jazz Bass for me. I'm leaning towards P Bass with the wider fret board but I wanted your feeedback on it. Still looking at the Fender American Pro II Precision Bass as my choice.

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black again

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It's addictive! Wait until you start playing with other people. You're really going to be hooked! Warning: THIS IS NOT A CHEAP HOBBY!!!!
You've been warned! :lol: If you're married, you will be sneaking guitar number 6 into the house, and when your wife mentions it, you will lie to her and say you've already had that. The key is to get so many where that lie could be believable!:lol: And learn the musician's creed: it is better to ask for forgiveness, than to ask for permission.

Not married. So, I don't have to worry about hiding em, but you ain't lied about collecting guitars.:smh:

I started playing almost a year to this day and had just one of my son's old touring guitars he gave me to hang on the wall...I fixed it back up and started practicing.

I now have 8 guitars..a few nice ones and a few project guitars...I call em my girls and I have almost everything I've ever wanted...a Strat is next.

My biggest regret is not picking it up sooner. Playing, practicing, learning new songs, techniques, has been the most fun thing I've done in years!

The coolest thing for me is actually playing my favorite songs on a real guitar instead of air guitar...and for them to sound like the record.
 

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Not married. So, I don't have to worry about hiding em, but you ain't lied about collecting guitars.:smh:

I started playing almost a year to this day and had just one of my son's old touring guitars he gave me to hang on the wall...I fixed it back up and started practicing.

I now have 8 guitars..a few nice ones and a few project guitars...I call em my girls and I have almost everything I've ever wanted...a Strat is next.

My biggest regret is not picking it up sooner. Playing, practicing, learning new songs, techniques, has been the most fun thing I've done in years!

The coolest thing for me is actually playing my favorite songs on a real guitar instead of air guitar...and for them to sound like the record.
I feel the same way fam. I regret not learning sooner but that's the cool thing about life. I feel as though learning something at any point in our life and enjoying it so much we wish we would have learned it earlier is a blessing too many never get to discover. That's how I look at it. Once I get close to mastering the guitar and bass I'm gonna add the piano as well. No limits to what I can do

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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To all my guitar players out there. A Gsus4 chord is a lot harder to make than it looks. But I got it. Have to use pinky G more cause you have to use it in order to make it anyway. Think I'll stick with pinky G. It's easier on other chord changes anyway. Especially switching to C.

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Man I couldn’t pluck on that mf even if my life depended on it. I could barely play that guitar hero bullshit. Wasn’t meant to be
When you 1st start out its gonna seem impossible to do. Even the great ones say that. It becomes more manageable the more you stick with it. When I 1st started I was dropping my pick constantly. Even dropped it in the sound hole on some ol' Benny Hill type shit. Was frustrated as fuck. Just stayed with it cause my instructor said to embrace the failure so to speak and anticipate it. You just have to fight through it. I'm doing things on the guitar now I'd never imagine.

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Working on minor sus4 chords now. Damn that Esus4 chord is a tight squeeze with the pinky finger coming in. It's like an A chord but with my big ass fingers I just have to learn how to angle them to get the sound right. Am sus4 and Dm sus4 are no problems for me at all.

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Still working hard with barre chords. Been working on them 7 days a week. Takes a while to get good tone. One of the most challenging things I've ever done in my life!!!! They are hard as fuck to consistently ring out!!!!

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knightmelodic

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Still working hard with barre chords. Been working on them 7 days a week. Takes a while to get good tone. One of the most challenging things I've ever done in my life!!!! They are hard as fuck to consistently ring out!!!!


It sounds like you have the one essential thing to master an instrument - love. If you don't love it you ain't gonna practice. And I don't have to tell you what happens if you don't practice. Keep it up.
I play brass and percussion and I added instruments over many years. Say that to say, maybe concentrate on one instrument until you get it cold and then add others. Guitar is going to be harder than bass because of the chords but bass will teach you to read the bass clef so...
 

Coldchi

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I have a guitar but I don't know how to play it.
Got that shit posted up for decoration in the corner.....lol
I'm a saxophone guy.
 

black again

Rising Star
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It sounds like you have the one essential thing to master an instrument - love. If you don't love it you ain't gonna practice. And I don't have to tell you what happens if you don't practice. Keep it up.
I play brass and percussion and I added instruments over many years. Say that to say, maybe concentrate on one instrument until you get it cold and then add others. Guitar is going to be harder than bass because of the chords but bass will teach you to read the bass clef so...

Truth!

I played guitar briefly, as a kid, but was never serious about practicing...and the guitar my folks got me was terrible to play.

Learning to play, as an adult, has been completely different. I LOVE practicing! I can play the same riffs over and over for days, til I get it...simple chord changes, all the stuff I never had the patience to do as a kid. And now I have guitars I LOVE playing!
There's nothing like the feeling of an instrument that looks and sounds great and feels "right" in ya hands.

@jackwalsh13, you ain't lied about barre chords...they're a bitch, but I see progress every day I play...I also learned that same riff for Running with the Devil.

Couple weeks ago, I got a semi hollow...been wanting to learn some Toni Tone Tony tunes and wanted something like Dwayne played.
Check out the lesson on youtube for "I been Thinking bout you"...a few simple barre chords and a damn hard mofo at the end.

But once you can get it, that shit sounds smooth AF.
 

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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It sounds like you have the one essential thing to master an instrument - love. If you don't love it you ain't gonna practice. And I don't have to tell you what happens if you don't practice. Keep it up.
I play brass and percussion and I added instruments over many years. Say that to say, maybe concentrate on one instrument until you get it cold and then add others. Guitar is going to be harder than bass because of the chords but bass will teach you to read the bass clef so...
I agree with everything you said 100%. Never gonna give up though Knight. I will be able to do absolutely ANYTHING on the guitar I want in a matter of time. Same thing with the bass. :yes:

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Truth!

I played guitar briefly, as a kid, but was never serious about practicing...and the guitar my folks got me was terrible to play.

Learning to play, as an adult, has been completely different. I LOVE practicing! I can play the same riffs over and over for days, til I get it...simple chord changes, all the stuff I never had the patience to do as a kid. And now I have guitars I LOVE playing!
There's nothing like the feeling of an instrument that looks and sounds great and feels "right" in ya hands.

@jackwalsh13, you ain't lied about barre chords...they're a bitch, but I see progress every day I play...I also learned that same riff for Running with the Devil.

Couple weeks ago, I got a semi hollow...been wanting to learn some Toni Tone Tony tunes and wanted something like Dwayne played.
Check out the lesson on youtube for "I been Thinking bout you"...a few simple barre chords and a damn hard mofo at the end.

But once you can get it, that shit sounds smooth AF.
Real talk man. What I've been doing lately is just using the barre finger to ring out all 6 strings. Learn how to properly angle that finger 1st. Then work on adding the other 3 fingers to form the E chord. I'm learning that way, you don't have to press down so hard on the barre finger as you thought. Also, for open chord changes I found a very helpful YouTube video that says work on two chords at a time. Count 1,2,3,4 then change chords. After a few shorten up the count to 2,3,4, then 3,4, then 4, then straight switch. It's helped a lot. Working on the switch between the C and the G so I can play Sly and the Family Stone's "Everyday People." Love it!!!

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knightmelodic

American fruit, Afrikan root.
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I agree with everything you said 100%. Never gonna give up though Knight. I will be able to do absolutely ANYTHING on the guitar I want in a matter of time. Same thing with the bass. :yes:


I know you will brother. You might want to consider taking some music theory also, especially since you play a chordal instrument. I cannot tell you how transformative it is to learn it, it's like Dorothy waking up in Oz. I'm playing drums and understanding how the keys or guitar are inverting chords and know what is happening when a key change is done in the middle of a riff instead of just hearing a different sound. I can accentuate the change with a bark on the hi-hat or something else like a bell hit. It just goes on and on You'll find that the absolute best musicians can read a score like nothing and get in where they fit in instead of being flashy soloists.

Sass said it best, it's not the notes, it's what's between the notes.
 

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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I know you will brother. You might want to consider taking some music theory also, especially since you play a chordal instrument. I cannot tell you how transformative it is to learn it, it's like Dorothy waking up in Oz. I'm playing drums and understanding how the keys or guitar are inverting chords and know what is happening when a key change is done in the middle of a riff instead of just hearing a different sound. I can accentuate the change with a bark on the hi-hat or something else like a bell hit. It just goes on and on You'll find that the absolute best musicians can read a score like nothing and get in where they fit in instead of being flashy soloists.

Sass said it best, it's not the notes, it's what's between the notes.
Yes. I'm currently learning music theory as well. My uncle is helping me understand music theory in general. He was taught by Ray Charles guitar player and Clifford Adams from Kool & The Gang. He's showing me the importance of knowing what songs are played in what key. Very valuable information. You can apply that to any instrument. I'm getting down the whole WWHWWWH step theory in general. :yes:

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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For a nice quality one.....probably $700-$1000
But for a good beginners sax.....less than $300.
Now u can get a beginners sax and get a high quality mouth piece. U will definitely notice the difference in sound.
I'll keep that in mind. Good lookin.

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knightmelodic

American fruit, Afrikan root.
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Yes. I'm currently learning music theory as well. My uncle is helping me understand music theory in general. He was taught by Ray Charles guitar player and Clifford Adams from Kool & The Gang. He's showing me the importance of knowing what songs are played in what key. Very valuable information. You can apply that to any instrument. I'm getting down the whole WWHWWWH step theory in general. :yes:

I don't know what you're being taught so I can only comment on what you've said and what you've said is not music theory per se. IIRC WWHWWWH is for building scales on the guitar. I'd suggest taking a look at the wiki article on music theory or even check out some online courses. There are several that are free. Of course, there's always youtube but you never know exactly who those people are.

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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I don't know what you're being taught so I can only comment on what you've said and what you've said is not music theory per se. IIRC WWHWWWH is for building scales on the guitar. I'd suggest taking a look at the wiki article on music theory or even check out some online courses. There are several that are free. Of course, there's always youtube but you never know exactly who those people are.

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Yup. It's a small part of it. The scale portion. Being able to know which notes are being played in which key is what your referring to. My uncle made a good suggestion to help me which was get a chord wheel they sell on Amazon. It's actually pretty cool. Helps you with learning the root, 3rd and 5th notes in any key. I also need to work on my arpeggios as well. He's helping with all those things.

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knightmelodic

American fruit, Afrikan root.
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Yup. It's a small part of it. The scale portion. Being able to know which notes are being played in which key is what your referring to. My uncle made a good suggestion to help me which was get a chord wheel they sell on Amazon. It's actually pretty cool. Helps you with learning the root, 3rd and 5th notes in any key. I also need to work on my arpeggios as well. He's helping with all those things.

No, knowing the key comes from looking at the sheet music or just experience or the leader telling the band. Take a look at the definition of music theory. The wheel you're talking about is called the circle of fifths and it's a good idea to learn but it's not like carved in stone essential.

Anyway, loads of musicians don't know music theory or even care about it and they do just fine. It was just a suggestion. The one thing no book or teacher can give you is time on your instrument. That is up to you, so keep on plucking my brother.

And bend those strings!
 
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black again

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No, knowing the key comes from looking at the sheet music or just experience or the leader telling the band. Take a look at the definition of music theory. The wheel you're talking about is called the circle of fifths and it's a good idea to learn but it's not like carved in stone essential.

Anyway, loads of musicians don't know music theory or even care about it and they do just fine. It was just a suggestion. The one thing no book or teacher can give you is time on your instrument. That is up to you, so keep on lucking my brother.

C/S like a.mofo...my son has been playing professionally in bands for years and doesn't know theory...but he learned by playing for hours on end.

We were playing together recently and normally he'll play some stuff that'll have me in awe...fast heavy metal riffs, but then he started doing a classical type finger picking that totally blew me away, cuz I know how difficult that is.. especially since that's not in a style you normally play.

Time on your instrument is what I've found to be key for me...I try to have alot of structured practice, but also I'll spend alotta time just messing around... especially while I'm watching tv.

I eventually wanna know more theory, but now I'm playing, learning new technique (been practicing the tapping on the solo for Eruption), learning new riffs and songs..
 

knightmelodic

American fruit, Afrikan root.
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^^^^^^^^^^

Absolutely. When you hear about the greats, I mean the stratospheric greats, you hear about their legendary 10, 12, 14 hour-a-day practicing. Most of them either learned some music theory or were just so damn talented they picked it up without formal study.
That's not 99.99% of musicians, however.

Let me put it this way: we all know how to speak English. So music theory would be like studying English in college because you want to know more about the language, maybe improve your writing or speaking a bit. So you get a BA. Some people like it so much they want to know more and get an MA because they want to write or edit better. And some people love it so much they want to understand the full scope of the beauty so they get a Ph.D. But at the end of the day, we're all still speaking English.

And English, all language, is a means of communication. And music is a language. Does it matter if I have a Ph.D. if you can understand me?
 
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