Fake DJing BUSTED...tell the truth..sometimes ya'll pretend to turn knobs just to look busy

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cli-terminator

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The worst are the DJs who wanna make a name for themselves but don't wanna pay their dues. If you're an opening DJ then your job is to kick the vibes off & set the tone for the rest of the event. Anyone can play the top 40 hot shit but there's much more music than that & it's totally disrespectful to play them before the main DJs come on. My boy had someone try that shit one time. Dude saw my my was bout to come on so he immediately started playing through all the new hot songs. To teach him a lesson, my boy took his time setting up & purposely let dude run through all the songs so that he'd be stuck scrambling trying figure out what to play next. Ppl started looking at dude like what the hell are you doing. My boy eventually came on after dude played himself & brought the crowd back using throwbacks.
 

Uncle John

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You can have all the playlists you want, it’s all timing along with selection and tempo.
All the cutting and blending is extra but can’t come before selection, pace and timing.
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
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The worst are the DJs who wanna make a name for themselves but don't wanna pay their dues. If you're an opening DJ then your job is to kick the vibes off & set the tone for the rest of the event. Anyone can play the top 40 hot shit but there's much more music than that & it's totally disrespectful to play them before the main DJs come on. My boy had someone try that shit one time. Dude saw my my was bout to come on so he immediately started playing through all the new hot songs. To teach him a lesson, my boy took his time setting up & purposely let dude run through all the songs so that he'd be stuck scrambling trying figure out what to play next. Ppl started looking at dude like what the hell are you doing. My boy eventually came on after dude played himself & brought the crowd back using throwbacks.

Lol.

The top 40 is bullshit anyway. You'll find a few party rockers in there, but charts aren't built on the dance floor. If it was Lil Jon would be doing Elvis numbers.

It's almost as bad as DJs who think they can entertain a high school by pulling music from the radio. Again, you'll find a few party rockers in there, but radio playlists are made for people in their cars.

When I'm building my crates I'll start with the music I used to rock a similar party. Then I'll go through all the new music from the last 2 or 3 months and see what mixes work the best. Preferably you want something that can mix with two or three well-known songs smoothly. If it can mix between genres even better!

That works especially good for hip hop record pools that push out 20 new artists a week. It's a fairly accurate way to figure out who's going to make it and who won't.
 

dasailr03

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by now its been clearly established that there are two categories of DJ's and they are not the same. You have the Paris Hilton celebrity DJ's whose getting paid to pretend to mix and get paid a ton of $$$ that a ton of people are willing to do. Then you have the DJ Jazzy Jeff, Q-bert, Grandmaster Flashes, who are a part of the hip hop collective, created the art form, put their blood, sweat and tears into it and will never get the financial rewards like the other category DJ's. I say all that to say, what difference does it make to you? We all know it's bullshit and ain't right but in the end, we all got to grind to eat. Some of us will eat better than the next man but the next man will eat but not as good.
 

cli-terminator

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Lol.

The top 40 is bullshit anyway. You'll find a few party rockers in there, but charts aren't built on the dance floor. If it was Lil Jon would be doing Elvis numbers.

It's almost as bad as DJs who think they can entertain a high school by pulling music from the radio. Again, you'll find a few party rockers in there, but radio playlists are made for people in their cars.

When I'm building my crates I'll start with the music I used to rock a similar party. Then I'll go through all the new music from the last 2 or 3 months and see what mixes work the best. Preferably you want something that can mix with two or three well-known songs smoothly. If it can mix between genres even better!

That works especially good for hip hop record pools that push out 20 new artists a week. It's a fairly accurate way to figure out who's going to make it and who won't.
I refuse to dj for young/teen crowds. I absolutely hate the current genre of hip-hop & them lil muhfuckas are beyond finicky with what they wanna hear. They're worse than playing for a mixed African crowd
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
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I refuse to dj for young/teen crowds. I absolutely hate the current genre of hip-hop & them lil muhfuckas are beyond finicky with what they wanna hear. They're worse than playing for a mixed African crowd

I DJ for teenagers all the time. Out of the 20 or so live events I've done this year 3 of them were High School proms. 2 of them were end of school parties. 2 others were 18th and 21st birthdays respectively.

I don't like most of today's hip hop, but then again I'm not supposed to. Popular music is aimed at people between the ages of 16 and 24. The further you get away from that age group the less relevant it's going to sound. It's also why teens are so finicky. They're getting new music pushed on them every day.

The secret for playing for teenagers, or any other group that has different musical tastes than your own, is to first except that their music might be better than yours. Even if you don't like it.

The second secret is to try and figure out why they like it. Play their songs over and over and over again to see if you can find the similarities.

The third secret is to practice mixing it with songs that you actually do like. You don't want to do this on stage of course, but in rehearsal it will give you a point of comparative reference.

Fourth secret is to always, always, ALWAYS take requests. If you've been doing your homework you'll already know most of these songs. If you don't know them you'll at least know where they're probably going to break down and you can drop in a song that you do know and also has similar musical elements to what you just played.

Personally, I love playing for teenagers. Not only is it musically challenging, these kids have a shit ton of energy and can party like the world's about to end tomorrow. It's a wonderful thing to be a part of
 

cli-terminator

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I DJ for teenagers all the time. Out of the 20 or so live events I've done this year 3 of them were High School proms. 2 of them were end of school parties. 2 others were 18th and 21st birthdays respectively.

I don't like most of today's hip hop, but then again I'm not supposed to. Popular music is aimed at people between the ages of 16 and 24. The further you get away from that age group the less relevant it's going to sound. It's also why teens are so finicky. They're getting new music pushed on them every day.

The secret for playing for teenagers, or any other group that has different musical tastes than your own, is to first except that their music might be better than yours. Even if you don't like it.

The second secret is to try and figure out why they like it. Play their songs over and over and over again to see if you can find the similarities.

The third secret is to practice mixing it with songs that you actually do like. You don't want to do this on stage of course, but in rehearsal it will give you a point of comparative reference.

Fourth secret is to always, always, ALWAYS take requests. If you've been doing your homework you'll already know most of these songs. If you don't know them you'll at least know where they're probably going to break down and you can drop in a song that you do know and also has similar musical elements to what you just played.

Personally, I love playing for teenagers. Not only is it musically challenging, these kids have a shit ton of energy and can party like the world's about to end tomorrow. It's a wonderful thing to be a part of
The main thing is staying up to speed with what's popular to them as younger crowds are not my normal audience. It's much easier for me with West Indian or even African young crowds cuz they're more rooted in older songs and I can jump in and out of generations much more seamlessly. I also don't listen to radio as much anymore so that doesn't help. In either case as long as I know who I'm playing for and am given enough time to acquire and put together the playlist I can move a crowd. One of my favorite things to do is randomly play songs that were popular but not the top songs during the times when they were 1st released. It gives a nice throwback vibe and the crowds don't have to feel like they're gonna hear the same song every time.
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
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by now its been clearly established that there are two categories of DJ's and they are not the same. You have the Paris Hilton celebrity DJ's whose getting paid to pretend to mix and get paid a ton of $$$ that a ton of people are willing to do. Then you have the DJ Jazzy Jeff, Q-bert, Grandmaster Flashes, who are a part of the hip hop collective, created the art form, put their blood, sweat and tears into it and will never get the financial rewards like the other category DJ's. I say all that to say, what difference does it make to you? We all know it's bullshit and ain't right but in the end, we all got to grind to eat. Some of us will eat better than the next man but the next man will eat but not as good.

I've seen DJ Q-bert perform live several times. He's a brilliant musician, but his sets are pretty boring. You don't go to a Q-Bert show to dance, you just sort of sit there like you're watching somebody play the cello. He's basically the Yo-Yo ma of DJing.

Being a turntablist has pretty limited prospects. You can make money off of competitions and shows, but nobody's going to hire you for a sweet 16. It's not because the client doesn't respect your art and skill, it's because the kids want to dance.

As for Paris Hilton, people go to her shows to talk about how they partied with Paris Hilton. They're not expecting her to be any good and don't care whether she's actually playing music or not. However, she still needs a reason to be on stage so that's where the ghost DJs come in.
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
The main thing is staying up to speed with what's popular to them as younger crowds are not my normal audience. It's much easier for me with West Indian or even African young crowds cuz they're more rooted in older songs and I can jump in and out of generations much more seamlessly. I also don't listen to radio as much anymore so that doesn't help. In either case as long as I know who I'm playing for and am given enough time to acquire and put together the playlist I can move a crowd. One of my favorite things to do is randomly play songs that were popular but not the top songs during the times when they were 1st released. It gives a nice throwback vibe and the crowds don't have to feel like they're gonna hear the same song every time.

I bolded that last part because that's pure DJ gold right there.

The greatest feat you can pulled off as a DJ is to seamlessly play a favorite that no one has heard in years. A couple that I pull out often is "I do" by Toya or "my boo" by Ghost Town DJs. If you want to see a bunch of women over 30 lose their shit and act like 18-year-olds that's what you do.

You are very right about playing for people that aren't your normal audience though. I've played hundreds of gigs, but the only time I've ever walked off stage wasn't December of 2019 when a cruise ship had me in front of an Indian audience. The boat was leaving late so for about a half hour I tried running through all different genres of music and the only music anybody would dance to was Bhangra, a genre that I know almost nothing about. When I realized that I packed up my stuff and walked off the boat before it took off. I wasn't about to spend 3 hours with an audience pissed off that I only knew three songs they wanted to hear.


A month later an Indian couple asked me to DJ day three of their wedding. I just told them straight up "I know almost nothing about Indian culture, language or music, but if you're willing to tell me what to play I will do it in a way that will keep everyone on the floor all night." They worked with me in the party turned out great.
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
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I've seen DJ Q-bert perform live several times. He's a brilliant musician, but his sets are pretty boring. You don't go to a Q-Bert show to dance, you just sort of sit there like you're watching somebody play the cello. He's basically the Yo-Yo ma of DJing.

Being a turntablist has pretty limited prospects. You can make money off of competitions and shows, but nobody's going to hire you for a sweet 16. It's not because the client doesn't respect your art and skill, it's because the kids want to dance.

As for Paris Hilton, people go to her shows to talk about how they partied with Paris Hilton. They're not expecting her to be any good and don't care whether she's actually playing music or not. However, she still needs a reason to be on stage so that's where the ghost DJs come in.
And that's the reason why Jazzy Jeff is so unique. Ppl know he can rock the crowd with songs to make them dance and reminisce but also know he will wow them with turntabilism that are still unmatched to this day.
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
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I bolded that last part because that's pure DJ gold right there.

The greatest feat you can pulled off as a DJ is to seamlessly play a favorite that no one has heard in years. A couple that I pull out often is "I do" by Toya or "my boo" by Ghost Town DJs. If you want to see a bunch of women over 30 lose their shit and act like 18-year-olds that's what you do.

You are very right about playing for people that aren't your normal audience though. I've played hundreds of gigs, but the only time I've ever walked off stage wasn't December of 2019 when a cruise ship had me in front of an Indian audience. The boat was leaving late so for about a half hour I tried running through all different genres of music and the only music anybody would dance to was Bhangra, a genre that I know almost nothing about. When I realized that I packed up my stuff and walked off the boat before it took off. I wasn't about to spend 3 hours with an audience pissed off that I only knew three songs they wanted to hear.


A month later an Indian couple asked me to DJ day three of their wedding. I just told them straight up "I know almost nothing about Indian culture, language or music, but if you're willing to tell me what to play I will do it in a way that will keep everyone on the floor all night." They worked with me in the party turned out great.
I've done it with songs like "Oh Yes" by Dipset, "Warrior's Drum" by King Just, "You Will Never Find" by In Essence for crowds with a lot NY heads, etc.... Toughest crowds are when it's mixed and you're going across multiple genres but no one is really dancing except to the music from their culture. Trying to appease everyone and no one at the same time
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
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I've done it with songs like "Oh Yes" by Dipset, "Warrior's Drum" by King Just, "You Will Never Find" by In Essence for crowds with a lot NY heads, etc.... Toughest crowds are when it's mixed and you're going across multiple genres but no one is really dancing except to the music from their culture. Trying to appease everyone and no one at the same time

That happens quite a bit in San Francisco. Out here a lot of parties are a mixture of white, black, and Latin folks.

The way I do it is to play the Latin music first. That gets the Latin women on the floor. They don't really like dancing alone so after two or three songs they'll recruit whatever man they can find to dance with them.

The men who get dragged in determines what to play next. If it's Black men then you bust out popular black music with a similar beat or theme. (Usually "Drogoba"or "Aye Macarana"). That way Black women can hit the dance floor without looking jealous. If it's white dudes I usually play "I don't care" by Ed Sheeran because white women are just as petty. If it's Latin men I'll throw in something like "suavemente" or "danza kuduro" so they can show off the Cha Cha skills. At the very least it brings everyone else to the edge of the dance floor so they can stand around and watch.

Once I've recalibrated the dance floor I'll play to whichever group is the most enthusiastic. If someone else doesn't like that they can request something different, and if I can find a way to work it in then it happens.

Of course there are some songs that are only going to be for one group. I've never seen anyone white dance to "La Chona" or "Tao Tao" just like I've never seen anyone black sing along to "country roads" or "sweet Caroline". I'll still throw one or two of these in my set anyway just to make everyone feel like they got their shot though.

This technique usually works best for corporate events, but it also works for interracial and intercultural weddings. When the purpose of a marriage is to bring two cultures together the dance floor needs to reflect that as well.
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
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I hate that dude, man. I don't know why that fat, sloppy, greasy, no pussy eating (I don't care, just another reason to hate him), culture vulture ass bitch

I don't mind him. He's basically just the Puff Daddy of the 2010s. A guy who made his name off collaboration skills much more than musical talent. Just wish he'd stop yelling in the middle of the songs. Fucks up the whole mix
 

tpotda

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Khaled is probably the most successful hip hop DJ in the financial sense over the likes of Drama, Envy, Clue etc.
 

godofwine

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I don't mind him. He's basically just the Puff Daddy of the 2010s. A guy who made his name off collaboration skills much more than musical talent. Just wish he'd stop yelling in the middle of the songs. Fucks up the whole mix
DJ Clue was a part at bullshit nonsense. I don't give a fuck about you bitch. Play the music

I'm writing some novels right now. I'm thinking about randomly throwing up GODOFWINE about every 3rd page

Thank God I'm kidding
 
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Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
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DJ Clue was a part at bullshit nonsense. I don't give a fuck about you bitch. Play the music

I'm writing some novels right now. I'm thinking about randomly throwing up GODOFWINE about every 3rd page

Thank God I'm kidding

Wait a minute, don't most authors have their their name printed on the bottom right corner of every other page anyhow?
 
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