whats street legitimacy?
What unpopular opinions do you have? Hip-Hop/Rap edition
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No you are not my friend.
I don't know how I missed this but Unclr Chuck... you really need me to post the like 20 number one hits? The time stamp records? The features? Just the 10 years AFTER the mixture of hits?
We can't try to conflate his entire career to his sound now. That isn't fair of any artist of any genre.
And remember what Jay Z
You spent your whole life up to that point writing your FIRST SONG AND ALBUM.
Although I believe Takeover was a better song than Ether.
Jay z doesn't even believe he won the battle against Nas so you definitely might be the only one.
Let’s use Ross for an example. He made his name rapping about selling dope. Got outed for being a CO, which used to be career suicide. Instead, it didn’t do a thing to his career, he actually got bigger as an artist.
Legitimacy, street cred, however you want to describe it, basically, a rapper doing or having actually done the shit in the streets that they rhyme about.
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I dunno if him being a CO in a prison exempts him from being a drug dealer
maybe not in the manner he described but as corrupt as prison guards can be....
but I digress....In the 70s and 80s rap/hip hop culture was sold as the anthesis of the streets.. an alternative to the worst aspects of the street and gangbanging. In the last 30 years, its become indistinguishable.
Street cred BEFORE the rise of gangster rap was essentially about your skill and how well known you were for it. Did you play the block parties and area clubs in your neighborhood? Did you do the school dances and park jams? Did you do the battles and corner ciphers? What's your MC reputation in your area? (which is why Will Smith is MORE of a legit MC than his detractors will ever know becuz he DID those things)
THAT'S street cred (note it's about your RAP and MC SKILLS)
After gangster rap and vanilla ice... I would say that between him and NWA they both changed what "street cred" meant in hip-hop..
vanilla ice had a fabricated past.... after his ONE hit blew up all he talked about was some criminal past and hanging with gangbangers... his press package (yeah the nigga said that shit in his press package) stressed all this criminal behavior bullshit.
And after the rise of NWA all hardcore rappers started talking about is life in the "hood" as if its some kind of safari trip and suddenly street cred became how many times you've been arrested? How many people have you robbed? how much drugs have you sold? What gang are you affiliated with? Note NONE of those questions talks about any rap or MC skills at all.
So what youre saying shows how hip hop/rap DEVOLVED into the very thing it was supposed to be an alternative to.
red kilt it!
I still feel Ether was not a good SONG
It was effective
But musically to me is was an angry dude shouting
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Tupac was a complete mystery
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I don't think ANYONE fully grasped the complexities of that man
Still doesn't make him the best rapper
But probably the most fascinating
Inside Jim Carrey's friendship with Tupac
When Tupac Shakur was sentenced to prison in 1995, his favourite actor Jim Carrey regularly wrote morale-boosting humourous letters to the rapper.
I don't think ANYONE fully grasped the complexities of that man
Still doesn't make him the best rapper
But probably the most fascinating
This would have been an epic pop music couple for good or ill
Freedom Williams was sorely underated as an MC and should be ranked high alongside MC Hammer!
Even KRS One can be factually incorrect. Not as bad as Nas "I Can", but Eli Whitney was a white man.
That album was, and still is classic material.
Love this joint
I want a duet album with Hov Ghost Nas AZ Drake LL and Jon Doe on her best records.
I been on a Winehouse binge this entire weekend.
I might be slowly crawling back.
Realized I have too much blank space in my brain when not coming up with rhymes lol
Have you watched that new Andre 3k interview?
Name them cause I know you ain't talm bout 3 6 , bone and twista
The CBS one?
Oh hells no, But that ain't Em style that's the harmony speed rap they were beefing over for decades to the point even Treach got mixed up in it.
You know darn well what Eminem style I'm talking about. His clones still walking around today.
I miss Leakers show, that corny hispanic on Sundays now is annoying as fuck
Dude wrote a song about knowing your history, he then told his listeners, that the man who was most responsible for the expansion of the slave trade, was a Black man. When he performs, does he still use that line? I've never heard him address, his mistake.
Are we still posting unpopular opinions?
Here's my unpopular opinion. Master P is responsible for the death of hip hop. If it wasn't for him that southern hip hop trash from the early 2000's would have never been accepted as normal. And all that garbage that followed from then until right now would have never existed. Drake would have been forced to make good music. There would be no Lil Wayne. Etc., etc.
Here's my unpopular opinion. Master P is responsible for the death of hip hop. If it wasn't for him that southern hip hop trash from the early 2000's would have never been accepted as normal. And all that garbage that followed from then until right now would have never existed. Drake would have been forced to make good music. There would be no Lil Wayne. Etc., etc.
It's gone?
Better than How High?
Yeah
Can’t go wrong with either
I remember watching that video on YouTube mtv raps in the 6th grade. I didn't know who eli Whitley was until 7th grade.
Talib, lupe, and black thought.
How old are you?
What do you mean career suicide?
No one cares that these raps are fake dude.
The raps ALWAYS been fake.